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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 07-18-2011, 07:01 AM
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X5d vs. M3

Looking for opinions:

I currently have a 2011 X5d with 47k miles. I have experienced no issues with the car and it has been comfortable to travel in. I can trade it at this point at a decent value where I will not have to invest in tires and the additional maintenance plan to 100K. My choices are to keep the car for several years or trade for a different model.

I have looked at other models and keep coming back to the M3.

Longevity? X5d vs. 2011 M3? Keep X5d?
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:41 AM
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Two totally different cars - more not in common than in common. I would see how your driving needs line up - can you live with less space, worse gas mileage and more limited weather driving.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:16 AM
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Dear Ksoze,

Thanks for the reply. I have been fortunate enough to own 2002's, 3's, 5's, and X5's. I have long commutes and primarily challenged with heavy rains at time. I would potentially drive the M3 a couple of days a week. The family travel car is a large SUV so I personally do not need the additional space the X5 offers. The X5 has been nice on the road, very stable at high speeds and great torque between 80 and 90mph. (550 miles per tank) The SAV has great technology but it almost feels as if it is becoming a point A to point B car.
I enjoy driving and I am not opposed to three pedals.Tough decision.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:23 AM
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I say M3 if you already have a back-up car with adequate cargo space.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:54 AM
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Based on that additional info, I say M3 all the way. I have also owned many BMW's, several which were M cars, and this M3 is the best yet. If you have an option for times when the M3 is not as good a choice (snow, trunk, passengers, etc.) then even more reason to get one as a couple of times a week driver.

You also mentioned using three pedals. All of my previous M cars have been manual and I went with the DCT on the E93 and have not regretted the decision. I find it engaging, technologically sound and fun. Drive a DCT car before buying - I did on a whim before ordering and changed my mind and order on the spot.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:59 PM
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E90 M3 seems like a good compromise. If you are even considering an M3 this should mean you aren't using your X5 any special way that requires having it. The E92 M3 is great too and has a huge trunk which is nice, but you lose two doors. The E93 M3 I think is more of a weekend or light driver. You will lose so much cargo room. Unless you have an extra car that can be used for any of those purposes it doesn't make much sense. The DCT is worth a whirl. Many settings to make it pleasurable in so many situations. The way I feel about this is that if you can afford it go for it. You could drop dead tomorrow. If its gonna break the bank then don't make any major moves until possible.

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Old 07-19-2011, 07:29 AM
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XCUSM5,

Thanks for the comments. I am essentially using the X5 for commuting and it is a comfortable ride and decent power, but other than that I really do not utilize the space so your comments make sense. I will most likely move forward with an E90. I drove an M3 with the DCT and it was impressive.
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Also keep in mind that the M3 is louder on the hwy (both in terms of road AND engine noise). Also gas mileage and range will be a huge change. Sub 20mpg.

On the reliability side of things, according to Consumer reports the E9x M3 is the most reliable car BMW currently builds.

If you just want a fun drive but will do a lot of driving on the hwy there might be better choices to consider... 1M or 335is...
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The E90 M3 could IMO be the best sedan ever made. Get one while you can. Other good cars will come along but they will likely be very different. The current M3 is simply a great car.

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I appreciate all the comments. I am pulling the trigger on an E90. I am not thrilled with the 18's that come on the car but I am apprehensive about the 19's due to bad roads and less tire life. Does anyone have the 18's and if so are the ok? Thanks
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:36 AM
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I appreciate all the comments. I am pulling the trigger on an E90. I am not thrilled with the 18's that come on the car but I am apprehensive about the 19's due to bad roads and less tire life. Does anyone have the 18's and if so are the ok? Thanks
I have the 18" but not sure what you are asking? they are ok with me
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I have the forged 19s and have had no issues with smallish pot holes, however I never had issues with my tires or wheels ever in 25 years ( other than wearing them out ) which includes 4 years of driving in Africa during an expat assignment...anyhow they are not run flats so they are not terribly expensive and the ride on my 19s is far from harsh. And if you are worried due to bad roads you can opt for the insurance. Get the wheels you like the best.

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Wow op...This topic really hits home for me. Am trading my X5D in on 2011 E92 w/competition package tomorrow..

We have two SUV's in the family right now and just don't need both. I'm going back to my truest love from BMW - M3.

It will be my daily driver..

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Old 07-22-2011, 08:16 AM
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Good Luck with the negotiations. I have through the weekend in my X5 and then it's gone.

The competition package is very nice. Enjoy!
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Coming from a guy who has both...

They are both wonderful rides. As solstice notes, the E9X M3 with its NA V8 is the end of an era, and worth getting just for that reason alone. The F30 M3 may turn out to be a capable car. But it will certainly be "different."

I went with 6MT, since I thought that could also be the end of an era. But the one time I dislike driving the E93 is crawling along in heavy traffic. So the X5D draws that duty. If the M3 will see commuting duty, I'd spring for the DCT.

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Coming from a guy who has both...

They are both wonderful rides. As solstice notes, the E9X M3 with its NA V8 is the end of an era, and worth getting just for that reason alone. The F30 M3 may turn out to be a capable car. But it will certainly be "different."

I went with 6MT, since I thought that could also be the end of an era. But the one time I dislike driving the E93 is crawling along in heavy traffic. So the X5D draws that duty. If the M3 will see commuting duty, I'd spring for the DCT.

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The E46 M3 and E85/86 M guys thought their cars were the end of an era (i.e. I6) and that the V8 won't offer the same experience. I remember myself taking some time to embrace the e9x M3. Also, I can't imagine BMW ditch MT in M cars (e.g. 1M was available with MT only and the F10 M5 will be available with MT as well).

I am still skeptical, but the 1M hasn't turned out to be terrible at all, and all the early reports indicate that the F10 M5 is also very good. Time will tell, and I'll reserve my opinion until I get a long test drive and get to see it in flesh.
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The E46 M3 and E85/86 M guys thought their cars were the end of an era (i.e. I6) and that the V8 won't offer the same experience. I remember myself taking some time to embrace the e9x M3. Also, I can't imagine BMW ditch MT in M cars (e.g. 1M was available with MT only and the F10 M5 will be available with MT as well).

I am still skeptical, but the 1M hasn't turned out to be terrible at all, and all the early reports indicate that the F10 M5 is also very good. Time will tell, and I'll reserve my opinion until I get a long test drive and get to see it in flesh.
I was here for the E46 transition to E9X and you are absolutely correct..The E9x is too big, too heavy, too cushy, too many electronic nannies and gizmos..Spring forward 5 years and well, you see where the discussion is today

Where I have to agree with Quack is that this generation of M3 may very well be the last of the bigger displacement, naturally aspirated vehicles...
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The E46 M3 and E85/86 M guys thought their cars were the end of an era (i.e. I6) and that the V8 won't offer the same experience. I remember myself taking some time to embrace the e9x M3. Also, I can't imagine BMW ditch MT in M cars (e.g. 1M was available with MT only and the F10 M5 will be available with MT as well).

I am still skeptical, but the 1M hasn't turned out to be terrible at all, and all the early reports indicate that the F10 M5 is also very good. Time will tell, and I'll reserve my opinion until I get a long test drive and get to see it in flesh.
I haven't driven a 1M and honestly, have not yet even seen one on the road, but I find it interesting magazine articles seem to point the 1M back to the original blood lines of the first M3, although I do realize it is a car magazine article.

I'm looking to a M3 and probably an F30 M3, and it will be different, but I will consider a 1M among a few other cars.
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Very timely thread. I just came back from the dealer and am very close to trading in my 2011 X5 35d for either a 2011 M3 Sedan or M3 Convertible. I currently own a Tacoma and a 2011 X3. Although I own two "practical" vehicles, it should be an easy choice to choose the convertible, however, for whatever reason, I am leaning towards the sedan. I think part of it is the practicality as I have two kids plus I just can't see myself enjoying a convertible where I live where we get winter six to seven months of the year (Western Canada).

I am also considering that the sedan will no longer be produced and I also love this V8 engine.
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Very timely thread. I just came back from the dealer and am very close to trading in my 2011 X5 35d for either a 2011 M3 Sedan or M3 Convertible. I currently own a Tacoma and a 2011 X3. Although I own two "practical" vehicles, it should be an easy choice to choose the convertible, however, for whatever reason, I am leaning towards the sedan. I think part of it is the practicality as I have two kids plus I just can't see myself enjoying a convertible where I live where we get winter six to seven months of the year (Western Canada).

I am also considering that the sedan will no longer be produced and I also love this V8 engine.
I have both - X5d and E90 M3. Both very different cars - the M3 is my DD, the X5d is the wife's. I love the M3, but it just isn't as practical as the X5d. On the other hand, if you want a huge smile and some serious looks, the E90 M3 will fit the bill. The sedan looks pretty mean with the competition pkg. and drives like a scalpel - very precise. And you can haul around 4 people very comfortably. I've had a BUNCH of people ask me if it's really an M3 - and a few people assume that it isn't... LOL.

I will say though, that this car will get you in trouble. The limits of the car are WAY out of my current skill set - it's eager to be pushed, and driven.
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Dear Ksoze,

Thanks for the reply. I have been fortunate enough to own 2002's, 3's, 5's, and X5's. I have long commutes and primarily challenged with heavy rains at time. I would potentially drive the M3 a couple of days a week. The family travel car is a large SUV so I personally do not need the additional space the X5 offers. The X5 has been nice on the road, very stable at high speeds and great torque between 80 and 90mph. (550 miles per tank) The SAV has great technology but it almost feels as if it is becoming a point A to point B car.
I enjoy driving and I am not opposed to three pedals.Tough decision.
Forget about the 500 mile plus range, M3's suck gas like nobody's business - you may not get even 300 miles on a tank.

Two different cars naturally, I'd say of you have an eye for track events then the M3 will give you something back, otherwise, it's overkill as a daily driver and even more so as a two-day-a-week cruiser - you'd be better off with 335i or even a 328 with a sport package and a manual transmission.

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Very timely thread. I just came back from the dealer and am very close to trading in my 2011 X5 35d for either a 2011 M3 Sedan or M3 Convertible. I currently own a Tacoma and a 2011 X3. Although I own two "practical" vehicles, it should be an easy choice to choose the convertible, however, for whatever reason, I am leaning towards the sedan. I think part of it is the practicality as I have two kids plus I just can't see myself enjoying a convertible where I live where we get winter six to seven months of the year (Western Canada).

I am also considering that the sedan will no longer be produced and I also love this V8 engine.
Timely thread? I just noticed it's from last July ....
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Very timely thread. I just came back from the dealer and am very close to trading in my 2011 X5 35d for either a 2011 M3 Sedan or M3 Convertible. I currently own a Tacoma and a 2011 X3. Although I own two "practical" vehicles, it should be an easy choice to choose the convertible, however, for whatever reason, I am leaning towards the sedan. I think part of it is the practicality as I have two kids plus I just can't see myself enjoying a convertible where I live where we get winter six to seven months of the year (Western Canada).

I am also considering that the sedan will no longer be produced and I also love this V8 engine.
The M3 is a very different car and is not for everyone. I traded my 11 35d and ordered and 11 e90. The M3 is a special car in many ways and a personal keeper for me. I do not use it as a DD, but it would be very easy to do so. The sedan works well hauling kids and it's nice to have the extra room.
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Forget about the 500 mile plus range, M3's suck gas like nobody's business - you may not get even 300 miles on a tank.

Two different cars naturally, I'd say of you have an eye for track events then the M3 will give you something back, otherwise, it's overkill as a daily driver and even more so as a two-day-a-week cruiser - you'd be better off with 335i or even a 328 with a sport package and a manual transmission.

My 2 cents....
Well said. I was getting 19 to 20 mpg on the highway until break in. Now the gas seems to run right out of the car. I have not settled into driving the M3 like other cars at this point and I am not sure I will be able to.
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