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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-08-2012, 10:56 AM
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What do think of this site. Not sure about these guys and 'their' BMW software... Any comments?
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:35 AM
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I think the software described on bmwcoders.com is the same as the software in this thread. Both are created by the members at bmwecu.org started by "Fister" who figured out how to use the BMW software on a PC with a serial port adapter. But just correct me if I am wrong.
There is a lot of good information on that site, just read and learn.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:23 PM
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Thanks Hans. That is reassuring. So which is more complete and up to date. INPA-6.4.3-full from here or INPA 5.0.2 from there. Spazticrecords from BMW coders said in August last year "Latest NCS is 3.1.0, latest INPA 5.06, Latest BMW tools 5.31.2011" How do we end up with the 6.4.3 version number?
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:19 PM
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The above linked version of INPA is labeled as 6.4.3 because that is how I originally downloaded it when this whole project started. I simply repacked and rehosted the installation files, keeping the nomenclature intact for easier reference.

It is actually INPA 3.x with EDIABAS 6.4.3. INPA 5.x is newer but I haven't found a reason to use it over 3.x when it comes to e39 cars.

I can't comment on NCS besides saying that I was able to do everything I wanted with the included version on my e39. This includes programming all modules for my needs.

With both of those, new versions seem to bring broader compatibility rather, more than fixes and upgrades.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:20 PM
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They are just different versions. If you want EasyDIS v.44 whitch is the last version of DIS where coding was included you should use INPA 6.4.3. Newer versions may have compability issues. I do not know where the number come from, probably a mixup between the different programs.
If you want the newest tools, they are linked at that site. GT1 is the same as DIS. You fint what you need at the to of this page: http://bmwcoders.com/forum/bmw-gt1-ops-opps-inpa-24/
Then you also need Progman to do coding in addition to DIS. I think most are better off with EasyDIS, that is the special version 44, if you don't need to use it on the newest cars.

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Old 03-21-2012, 01:43 PM
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Hello all
Unfortunately, the weakness of my English
I want help to find the codes and I ask who has the BMW Scanner (PASoft) - 2.1 and not the original Chinese, this model email daleel_1981@hotmail.com http://www.bmw-scanner.com/?page=bmw..._v201&lang=eng
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:08 AM
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hey i am considering going this route to scan & code my E39 540

can i use an ebay chinese cable?

If so, should i get the one for $40 or the one with CD for $43?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Inpa-K-C...9b98f8&vxp=mtr

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Old 04-07-2012, 11:19 AM
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:05 PM
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why is it funny to use this nickname?
I will never understand these people.
i will never understand why anybody will go off topic to spit their opinion that nobody cares about


Back on topic, will an ebay K-can wire work? It comes from Hong Kong.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:05 PM
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Hi Guys.
Just wondering how you all got vmware v6 to work. When I try and run my GT1 Virtual Machine its says I need a serial Key.. And Thats NOT cheap at all!!
I downloaded it from the 4Shared link in the 1st post of this thread...

Please Help..

How did you guys work around that problem please?


EDIT: Never mind. Sorted.

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Old 04-07-2012, 07:18 PM
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Back on topic, will an ebay K-can wire work? It comes from Hong Kong.
I bought a cheaper cable and then had to buy the right one. I recommend getting the recommended cable from the onset.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:02 AM
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Hello, I changed several values in my Car BMW 645 Ci 2005 with NCS Expert, now after that I dont get accet to the comunications module anymore. So far the car works fine only that I cant make changes anymore. I need the sidemarker of for germany. Is there a way to reset or restart the comunications module?

Thanks for ur help
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Old 05-15-2012, 11:32 AM
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:09 PM
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I had a truck where the belt tensioner went goofy and threw airbag light even though the seatbelt worked fine.

Search seat wires/tensioner/buckle
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Old 06-18-2012, 05:47 AM
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For airbag solutions, visit the E39 bestlinks & do a thread search for "srs" or "airbag".

For the record, this thread was opened up today on the E46 forums regarding making sense of the BMW diagnostic tools.
- (WIP) INPA, EDIABAS, NCS Expert, WINKFP, & EasyDis
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See also: E39 Bestlinks & How to easily find what you need
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Old 06-18-2012, 07:40 AM
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If I've missed a link elsewhere in this post, forgive me....but...does anyone have a really good NCS expert userguide that they can share? Specifically, one with instructions as to how one changes the central coding key on a module?

Here's the background story why I'm asking. My IHKA display has (I believe) a very early version of coding. The result is twofold; 1) The fan speed doesn't display when the unit is on "auto" and 2) The A/C compressor only works manually even when the auto button is pressed.

I believe I can update the coding inside my IHKA to a newer version using NCS expert (or progman/SSS)...however, I'm getting "1080 errors" and neither NCS expert nor SSS will code the IHKA.

So, the question is...HOW do you change the central coding key in the IHKA with NCS expert? Lots of online searching has not yielded any direct answers....car is a `97 E39 540, Late February/Early March build.

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Old 06-18-2012, 08:23 AM
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If I've missed a link elsewhere in this post, forgive me....but...does anyone have a really good NCS expert userguide that they can share? Specifically, one with instructions as to how one changes the central coding key on a module?

Here's the background story why I'm asking. My IHKA display has (I believe) a very early version of coding. The result is twofold; 1) The fan speed doesn't display when the unit is on "auto" and 2) The A/C compressor only works manually even when the auto button is pressed.

I believe I can update the coding inside my IHKA to a newer version using NCS expert (or progman/SSS)...however, I'm getting "1080 errors" and neither NCS expert nor SSS will code the IHKA.

So, the question is...HOW do you change the central coding key in the IHKA with NCS expert? Lots of online searching has not yielded any direct answers....car is a `97 E39 540, Late February/Early March build.

thanks....
Be careful. NCS is powerful but can have adverse affects if not programmed properly. This is the best guid out there right now:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1800496

Do a google search on NCS for dummies. Someone attempted to translate alot of it.

Again, be careful since it all in German.

BTW, I don't think the IHKA with key coding is available on the 98s. The option began with the later model cars after 3/98. Nor do I think you can reprogram the IHKA with an option that didn't exist on your model year. See attachment:
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:10 AM
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Why do you want to change the ZCS - Central Coding Key? I would leave the ZCS alone, let NCSExpert read the ZCS and determine which version of the IHKA firmware to install/reinstall.
I'm not an expert, but if you simply want to update/reinstall firmware to an existing module, then I would follow this DIY and choose IHKA instead of DSC. This will install the latest firmware from your version of NCSExpert.

I don't think this will work until you fix the 1080 error. What is the complete error message you get?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1765680


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If I've missed a link elsewhere in this post, forgive me....but...does anyone have a really good NCS expert userguide that they can share? Specifically, one with instructions as to how one changes the central coding key on a module?

Here's the background story why I'm asking. My IHKA display has (I believe) a very early version of coding. The result is twofold; 1) The fan speed doesn't display when the unit is on "auto" and 2) The A/C compressor only works manually even when the auto button is pressed.

I believe I can update the coding inside my IHKA to a newer version using NCS expert (or progman/SSS)...however, I'm getting "1080 errors" and neither NCS expert nor SSS will code the IHKA.

So, the question is...HOW do you change the central coding key in the IHKA with NCS expert? Lots of online searching has not yielded any direct answers....car is a `97 E39 540, Late February/Early March build.

thanks....
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:46 AM
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Why do you want to change the ZCS - Central Coding Key? I would leave the ZCS alone, let NCSExpert read the ZCS and determine which version of the IHKA firmware to install/reinstall.
I'm not an expert, but if you simply want to update/reinstall firmware to an existing module, then I would follow this DIY and choose IHKA instead of DSC. This will install the latest firmware from your version of NCSExpert.

I don't think this will work until you fix the 1080 error. What is the complete error message you get?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1765680
The error message I get is a pop up window that says:

"Der Codierindex folgender Steuergerate ist fur diesen Codierauftrag nicht zulassig: IHKA 02"

And yes, all I'm trying to do is update firmware to the latest version....

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Old 06-18-2012, 02:35 PM
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I suggest you post this on the diagnostic forum at bimmerforums and/or start a new thread here.
Has this module been by replaced by you or PO?
Can you read the IHKA module with INPA? Any error messages?
NCSExpert screenshot says it's trying to code IHKA plus (7) modules, IKE,GM3,LCM,EWS,ABG(?),ASC5,GR2. I would stick to IHKA only.
There are (3) file names below Jobname = SG......... Check that these files exist in the NCSExpert\daten\e39 directory
What is 1080 error you talked about?

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Old 06-19-2012, 06:46 PM
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I suggest you post this on the diagnostic forum at bimmerforums and/or start a new thread here.
Has this module been by replaced by you or PO?
Can you read the IHKA module with INPA? Any error messages?
NCSExpert screenshot says it's trying to code IHKA plus (7) modules, IKE,GM3,LCM,EWS,ABG(?),ASC5,GR2. I would stick to IHKA only.
There are (3) file names below Jobname = SG......... Check that these files exist in the NCSExpert\daten\e39 directory
What is 1080 error you talked about?
Thanks!

I did...forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1495331....didn't get any leads.

I can read the IHKA module with INPA with no error messages...the message only comes up when I try to update the firmware. I selected IHKA only. I will do another check for the file in that location as well...
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:11 PM
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Hi,

Bought a k+ d can cable for my old mans e39 520i and cant get it to connect.
I have ebiadas running and inpa also running fine, but it doesnt show battery or ignition and when trying to connect it keeps throwing up error messages...

The thing is the obd port only has four wires.. pin 16 live, k line pin 7, and two earths i think.

This is the cable, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INPA-K-DCA...06%26rk%3D1%26
I have a feeling its the wrong one?

Can anyone help?
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:41 PM
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Use the diagnosis port in the engine compartment. The big roundel connector. You can buy an adapter to your existing OBD2 cable.

Read the very first post in this thread.

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:13 PM
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yup. sometime in 2001 they switched to the under dash connector.... prior to that is the underhood connection that acoste mentioned.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:15 PM
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I believe you need the black rectangular adapter when using K+DCan cable on cars earlier then 2008. Not all suppliers include this. You also need to use the underhood diagnostic port.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-INPA-E...item3a7743687a

"K+DCAN OBD2 female to OBD2 male Adapter for extended backward compatibility"

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