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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 07-30-2012, 12:07 AM
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briscas, what you mean evo sport pulleys ? evo as in a lancer ? how do they make a difference?
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:06 AM
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Photos of the IC piping.
Wow...!
That inter-cooler is pretty low...
I would be worried about knocking it against something while driving...
At least if it were on my car, because my car is a good 2" lower than the OEM sport height...

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Old 07-30-2012, 11:14 AM
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briscas, what you mean evo sport pulleys ? evo as in a lancer ? how do they make a difference?
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/c-12...r-pulleys.aspx

http://aakmotorsports.com/under-drive-pulleys.aspx

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...ey-system.html
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:30 PM
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ahhhhh i see..... ok ill buy em
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:49 PM
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nvm no im not after reading this http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...ey-system.html
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:32 PM
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Damn, you've gotta be seriously devoted to your car to even think about supercharging it. The thought crossed my mind once, but I've decided to get either an e28 or e34 M5 for my next car after my e39 gives in.
Haha yes it is quite a task for sure but a great experience!
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:34 PM
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Wow...!
That inter-cooler is pretty low...
I would be worried about knocking it against something while driving...
At least if it were on my car, because my car is a good 2" lower than the OEM sport height...

Awesome car...!

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I have Eibach springs which sit the car about the same as you say. The IC is in the bumper and barely can be seen. It is about 1 inch higher than the bottom of the bumper.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:37 PM
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I al sure there have been issues with every single product on the market. I have never had an issue with mine. For the 540 they do not have a pulley for the crank that is stock the sport pulleys are for the waterpump alternator and power steering.
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I al sure there have been issues with every single product on the market. I have never had an issue with mine. For the 540 they do not have a pulley for the crank that is stock the sport pulleys are for the waterpump alternator and power steering.
I run them on the E46. Not hugely noticeable but one of those "lots of little things can eventually add up to 15hp which you can notice" items.

Been wondering about them for the 540 - another thing to check out if we can hookup some time Brian...
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:50 PM
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I run them on the E46. Not hugely noticeable but one of those "lots of little things can eventually add up to 15hp which you can notice" items.

Been wondering about them for the 540 - another thing to check out if we can hookup some time Brian...
Yes most certainly will show you they are sort of hard to see these days with the piping in the way.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:06 AM
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I al sure there have been issues with every single product on the market. I have never had an issue with mine. For the 540 they do not have a pulley for the crank that is stock the sport pulleys are for the waterpump alternator and power steering.
how long have they been on ya car
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:35 AM
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how long have they been on ya car
I have had them on for about 40k miles.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:06 AM
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hmmmm i wont like kill my alternator will i ? lol, cause i do have Led/Hid Everything......
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There are 2 versions one that under drive the alternator and one that doesn't. LEDs draws next to no power as compared with regular bulbs. The one that doesn't under drive is suppose to be for big amps for audiophiles. I have the alternator under driven with no issues. I have 3 electric fans and a beefy electric pump for my IC.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:28 AM
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hmmmm Did you feel any difference with them ?
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Throttle response was a bit quicker. But like JC said they don't add a ton on their own but lots of little things add up. Also the benefits of things like this just get better with more mods you make. Since it lightens everything up it increases by a % not just a constant. The car is a system and they all work together...improving everything is the way to get most power.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:59 AM
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Throttle response was a bit quicker. But like JC said they don't add a ton on their own but lots of little things add up. Also the benefits of things like this just get better with more mods you make. Since it lightens everything up it increases by a % not just a constant. The car is a system and they all work together...improving everything is the way to get most power.
yea i get that, but ok one more question sorry but i just dont put anything on without finding everything out first ya know? Is there any drawbacks to this, Pros and cons... i hear the pros but whats the cons to doing this?
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yea i get that, but ok one more question sorry but i just dont put anything on without finding everything out first ya know? Is there any drawbacks to this, Pros and cons... i hear the pros but whats the cons to doing this?
Cons...

Alternator will spin slightly slower causing it to charge slowerer at low rpms. Idle it is around 12.2V and normal driving it is around 13.4V. Very rarely on mine when stopping as rpms drop my battery light will flash on and back off. This is just that the voltage drops below threshold as it seems evosport has it sized to be almost exactly at the level.

Water pump is under driven. This will cause your car to run slightly hotter...this is actually good for performance. Fan as well as pump run slower. Gauge will not show a difference though. You will run maybe a little over 100C on the OBC. I think it raised temp on mine by maybe 3-4 degrees C.

Power steering pump runs slower. This is really the only thing you will notice. At very slow speeds and low rpms steering is a bit stiffer. Like parking and what not it is not horrible but it is noticeable an sometimes have to give a quick rev to spin the pump a bit to assist. You get used to it.

Other con is the OEM belt size is no longer going to work as all pulleys are slightly larger. The kit comes with a belt but it is a standard size you can get at any automotive store I believe it is 6pk1693 I use gates belts they cost like $8. And I always have a spare.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:53 AM
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Cons...

Alternator will spin slightly slower causing it to charge slowerer at low rpms. Idle it is around 12.2V and normal driving it is around 13.4V. Very rarely on mine when stopping as rpms drop my battery light will flash on and back off. This is just that the voltage drops below threshold as it seems evosport has it sized to be almost exactly at the level.

Water pump is under driven. This will cause your car to run slightly hotter...this is actually good for performance. Fan as well as pump run slower. Gauge will not show a difference though. You will run maybe a little over 100C on the OBC. I think it raised temp on mine by maybe 3-4 degrees C.

Power steering pump runs slower. This is really the only thing you will notice. At very slow speeds and low rpms steering is a bit stiffer. Like parking and what not it is not horrible but it is noticeable an sometimes have to give a quick rev to spin the pump a bit to assist. You get used to it.

Other con is the OEM belt size is no longer going to work as all pulleys are slightly larger. The kit comes with a belt but it is a standard size you can get at any automotive store I believe it is 6pk1693 I use gates belts they cost like $8. And I always have a spare.
Thank you for that detailed response but after reading what ya said ill pass ...
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Cons...

Water pump is under driven. This will cause your car to run slightly hotter...this is actually good for performance. Fan as well as pump run slower. Gauge will not show a difference though. You will run maybe a little over 100C on the OBC. I think it raised temp on mine by maybe 3-4 degrees C.


My car stock runs about 102-105C. Mattmdrift swears it should be 110. Were you really running sub 100c? that is not normal
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i just checked mine. With the new motor the hottest she gets is 99C on the OBC and that when sitting idle during a drive...if moving she goes down to 95C. In INPA I just read the in and out temps which were 184F (84C) and 204F (95C). I have a very powerful electric fan.
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Will the power delivery on a Supercharged 540 be at the same Rpm as it was N/A ?
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Got a chance to see Brian's car live and up close today. Also experienced driving behind it on the highway...

It's a freakin beast
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Got a chance to see Brian's car live and up close today. Also experienced driving behind it on the highway...

It's a freakin beast
Chris, good to see you at the meet up today and thanks for the photos! Some pretty unique cars and 3 e39s at an e30 event is not bad!
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Same here Brian. Had fun at dinner. We definitely did our best "car nerds" discussion.

Got slammed on the way home. The downpour was impressive to say the least!

Hope you get that last 2% tune you need to smooth out your beast and I also hope to see you again at Show and Shine before you're off the the LDU.
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