urgent clarification needed re x5d packages

Here is on bmwus sports activity package:


Sport Activity Package $2,200
19" Light alloy Y-Spoke wheels style 335-with all-season run-flat tires
20" Light alloy Y-spoke wheels style 214-with performance run-flat tires $950
•Sport Package
•Anthracite headliner
•Sports leather steering wheel
•Adaptive Drive
Sport seats
Multi-contour seats $900
•Shadowline exterior trim
Black Nevada Leather
Leather Nevada Cinnamon Brown
Oyster Nevada Leather
Sand Beige Nevada Leather
Tobacco Nevada Leather
Black Perforated Nevada Leather
Sand Beige Perforated Nevada Leather

PS: I am ordering 20 inch rims with it. It does show Adaptive drive included in the package.

Do i still have to order separate adaptive control for $3500 and why?

if so, i would get rid of sports activity, plus 20 inch rims and instead rather get adaptive contro.
pls advise soon, before i sign final config

Good quoestion?

I think you are talking about this here:?

If then i should have this in mine but i don't think so, or BMW already made changes?

Anyone a idea?

You will need to add adaptive drive separately from the options page for $3500. It does not come with the $2200 Sports Activity Package. BMW needs to fix their website.

Originally Posted by Haris335

You will need to add adaptive drive separately from the options page for $3500. It does not come with the $2200 Sports Activity Package. BMW needs to fix their website.

Exactly. I went through the same thing when I ordered mine.

Agreed...

Agreed. It shows adaptive drive then deletes the sports suspension. Very confusing.

But we all agree that Adaptive Drive is NOT included with the Sports Activity Package, correct?

How can we get clarification of this? I guess someone who just got a 2012 with SAP and no AD could scan their window sticker. Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

But we all agree that Adaptive Drive is NOT included with the Sports Activity Package, correct?

How can we get clarification of this? I guess someone who just got a 2012 with SAP and no AD could scan their window sticker. Thoughts?

Yes, we all agree that AD is NOT included in the Sports Activity Package. No need to scan a window stick. It is 10000% not included.

Originally Posted by Michael_s

Yes, we all agree that AD is NOT included in the Sports Activity Package. No need to scan a window stick. It is 10000% not included.

Well, not to be snarky, but unless you just picked up a 2012 X5d with SAP how do you know 10000%. You don't. None of us does... at least not for sure. I agree the odds that it's included are probably somewhere between zero and none, but until we have confirmation from someone with an actual car, we don't know for sure.

I do agree it would be a MAJOR f***up if it were included. People who paid $3500 more would go spastic, I'm sure.

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Well, not to be snarky, but unless you just picked up a 2012 X5d with SAP how do you know 10000%. You don't. None of us does... at least not for sure. I agree the odds that it's included are probably somewhere between zero and none, but until we have confirmation from someone with an actual car, we don't know for sure.

I do agree it would be a MAJOR f***up if it were included. People who paid $3500 more would go spastic, I'm sure.

You can be whatever you want, I don't give a crap. Just pick up the phone and call a dealer. Based upon the price of AD as a stand alone option, compared with the price of the SA package, any reasonable person could come up with this answer. Good luck.....

Edit- I just went to BMWUSA. When you select SAP and then move the mouse over Adaptive Drive, it clearly shows the additinal price of $3,500. Mystery solved.

Originally Posted by Michael_s

You can be whatever you want, I don't give a crap. Just pick up the phone and call a dealer. Based upon the price of AD as a stand alone option, compared with the price of the SA package, any reasonable person could come up with this answer. Good luck.....

Edit- I just went to BMWUSA. When you select SAP and then move the mouse over Adaptive Drive, it clearly shows the additinal price of $3,500. Mystery solved.

Really? The attitude is not required honestly... Be nice, it takes just as much effort to be cordial with people as it does to be a tool

Anyway, the mystery is far from solved, since on my build sheet on the BMWUSA website, it clearly shows Adaptive Drive included in ZAP. I agree this is *most likely* an error, but again you don't know, unless you've just picked up a new X5d, which I doubt. It does raise all kinds of liability questions though... BMW should really fix their site.

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Really? The attitude is not required honestly... Be nice, it takes just as much effort to be cordial with people as it does to be a tool

Anyway, the mystery is far from solved, since on my build sheet on the BMWUSA website, it clearly shows Adaptive Drive included in ZAP. I agree this is *most likely* an error, but again you don't know, unless you've just picked up a new X5d, which I doubt. It does raise all kinds of liability questions though... BMW should really fix their site.

You're right. Attitude not necessary. I apologize. Long day; however no excuse.

Yes, "most likely" an error and not 100% clear. But you are safe to assume that a $3,500 option is not included in a $2,200 package.

I'll clarify it since I just picked up my 2012 X5d yesterday with ZAP - it does NOT include Adaptive as part of the package. Mystery solved....

Originally Posted by Michael_s

You're right. Attitude not necessary. I apologize. Long day; however no excuse.

Yes, "most likely" an error and not 100% clear. But you are safe to assume that a $3,500 option is not included in a $2,200 package.

No worries... Thanks

Originally Posted by ts0673

I'll clarify it since I just picked up my 2012 X5d yesterday with ZAP - it does NOT include Adaptive as part of the package. Mystery solved....

Great... Mystery solved

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Really? The attitude is not required honestly... Be nice, it takes just as much effort to be cordial with people as it does to be a tool

Anyway, the mystery is far from solved, since on my build sheet on the BMWUSA website, it clearly shows Adaptive Drive included in ZAP. I agree this is *most likely* an error, but again you don't know, unless you've just picked up a new X5d, which I doubt. It does raise all kinds of liability questions though... BMW should really fix their site.

It does show on invoice sheet too.

I am not coughing out an extra $3500, by no means. Whether it comes or not damn BMW if it does not. More so I will be getting 20 inch rim nevertheless. If BMW is playing games, I am not paying for this one. Car is not gona fly lol

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Great... Mystery solved

How does your car drive? I guess not pathetic lol. Enjoy! Bmws are great driving cars but at this point I am not paying for $3500 along with $2200, plus $950 for 20 inch rims. I can buy my son a small car for that extra dough lol

Seriously? The whole 'free AD thing again'....

AD is 10000% worth the $3500. The sport activity package is useless. 20" rims useless.

And the whole issue was solved multiple times over the last 2 years- "AD is not in the Sport Activity Package". There is no question, there is 100% clarity, this is not a game, BMW is not baiting or switching...just silly.... zibawala, you've been shopping this car for months- you've never looked at the multiple order guides and documents posted here and on xoutpost?

Do a search.

Originally Posted by ard

Seriously? The whole 'free AD thing again'....

AD is 10000% worth the $3500. The sport activity package is useless. 20" rims useless.

And the whole issue was solved multiple times over the last 2 years- "AD is not in the Sport Activity Package". There is no question, there is 100% clarity, this is not a game, BMW is not baiting or switching...just silly.... zibawala, you've been shopping this car for months- you've never looked at the multiple order guides and documents posted here and on xoutpost?

Do a search.

So u got 19 inch, no sports but adaptive? $2200+$950= $3150, adaptive is $3500, and it is possibility that u can't have adaptive without sports so there you go, now pay $5700, with keeping 19 inch and around $ 6700 with 20 inch upgrade.

I would love to see guides though. Are those stickies on this forum? Please advise

Thanks

Originally Posted by ard

Seriously? The whole 'free AD thing again'....

AD is 10000% worth the $3500. The sport activity package is useless. 20" rims useless.

And the whole issue was solved multiple times over the last 2 years- "AD is not in the Sport Activity Package". There is no question, there is 100% clarity, this is not a game, BMW is not baiting or switching...just silly.... zibawala, you've been shopping this car for months- you've never looked at the multiple order guides and documents posted here and on xoutpost?

Do a search.

Come on man, you're better than this. Be nice No need to sh*t on the guy. I think there is a legitimate issue that BMW needs to fix their site. I think we can all agree it's confusing at best, and misleading at worst. I do agree that the mystery is now solved.

Also, bear in mind, the ZAP package may be useless to you, but some of us really like the look of the 20-inch wheels and the extended arches. I accept that is not your taste, and you feel it impairs ride/handling, but please don't be mean about other peoples tastes.

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Come on man, you're better than this. Be nice No need to sh*t on the guy. I think there is a legitimate issue that BMW needs to fix their site. I think we can all agree it's confusing at best, and misleading at worst. I do agree that the mystery is now solved.

Also, bear in mind, the ZAP package may be useless to you, but some of us really like the look of the 20-inch wheels and the extended arches. I accept that is not your taste, and you feel it impairs ride/handling, but please don't be mean about other peoples tastes.

Thanks for your kind support and understanding. There is always a way to decently and respectfully advance your point of view, preference staying courteous and avoid belligerence lol. I do respect his view and taste and still won't like to impose mine. It is your money and your decision finally. It is good to have advise without chewing the other person,s head lol.

Originally Posted by ard

Seriously? . . .
AD is 10000% worth the $3500. The sport activity package is useless. 20" rims useless . . . .

Agree with your AD comment . . . only reason I did not get it was - I wasn't sure how reliable that technology was - long term maintenance issues? I am the type who keep cars for 8-10 years (sorry, pure white LED angel eyes alone won't get me to switch cars!) . . . and in 20+ years of owning cars, never had unexpected trouble after warranty period is over. During warranty period, I watch it very closely, and I always pulled good routine maintenance.

Anybody out there with AD, had it for 3+ years and 60K+ miles on it? Sure would like to hear your thoughts/experience.

Regarding 20" wheels - well I like to have my martini "shaken, not stirred" . . . yes stirring it might improve the taste, but I want MINE just shaken!

Originally Posted by zibawala

So u got 19 inch, no sports but adaptive? $2200+$950= $3150, adaptive is $3500, and it is possibility that u can't have adaptive without sports so there you go, now pay $5700, with keeping 19 inch and around $ 6700 with 20 inch upgrade.

I would love to see guides though. Are those stickies on this forum? Please advise

Thanks

Yes, stickies:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=558456

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...e-pricing.html

I got sports and AD..ZAP + 2AV

20" is not an upgrade in my book...just fyi

Originally Posted by Matt_UKTX

Come on man, you're better than this. Be nice No need to sh*t on the guy. I think there is a legitimate issue that BMW needs to fix their site. I think we can all agree it's confusing at best, and misleading at worst. I do agree that the mystery is now solved.

Also, bear in mind, the ZAP package may be useless to you, but some of us really like the look of the 20-inch wheels and the extended arches. I accept that is not your taste, and you feel it impairs ride/handling, but please don't be mean about other peoples tastes.

The AD thing is OLD, OLD news. it was solved MONTHS before this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...light=adaptive

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...light=adaptive

For someone to get irate and accuse BMW of 'playing games' seems ludicrous....hence my tone:

Originally Posted by zibawala

It does show on invoice sheet too.

I am not coughing out an extra $3500, by no means. Whether it comes or not damn BMW if it does not. More so I will be getting 20 inch rim nevertheless. If BMW is playing games, I am not paying for this one. Car is not gona fly lol

FYI-

The Infiniti Q45 in 1990/1991 had adaptive drive...actually called active suspension. It is not 'new and unproven technology' (although arguably that was a Nissan product, and their reliability is 20 years ahead of the germans...)

There are A LOT of things that can go wrong... I keep cars 8-10 years too, and just see the occasional 2k-4k repair as a cost of driving luxury/performance.

Originally Posted by ard

Yes, stickies:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=558456

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...e-pricing.html

I got sports and AD..ZAP + 2AV

20" is not an upgrade in my book...just fyi




The AD thing is OLD, OLD news. it was solved MONTHS before this thread.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...light=adaptive

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...light=adaptive

For someone to get irate and accuse BMW of 'playing games' seems ludicrous....hence my tone:

OK, fair enough... I don't think BMW is playing games either, but they do need to fix their site. Surely you have to agree it's confusing/misleading.