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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 10-15-2011, 08:12 AM
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I really want wood arch steering wheel like in Benz and Lexus. As BMW goes, leather wheel gives the sport feel.
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Old 10-15-2011, 01:58 PM
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sport probably. I read somewhere that the sport line will have a lower ride height. Can you confirm this?
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:46 AM
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So the new F30 3 Series will be available as Modern Line, Sport Line, or Luxury Line. In addition there will be also be an M Sport Package.

Which line are you, Modern, Sport, or Luxury? Why?

I'm Sport, with the M Sport Package because it's more sport oriented and that's how I see the BMW 3 Series. The Sport Line will also offer Sport Seats, red contrast stitching, red dial accents and don't forget the red trim on the key fob! Also included are black accented bumpers, black trim, black grill, black exhaust tips, ferric grey wheels.
From the English version of the new 3 catalog, available on line:

The models illustrated in this brochure show the specifi cations and confi gurations (standard and optional equipment) of vehicles produced by BMW AG for the German market. According to the specifi c requirements of other markets, alterations in standard and optional equipment and the confi gurations available for the different models, as described in this brochure, may occur. For more precise information about country-specifi c vehicle versions, please contact your local BMW partner. Subject to change in design and equipment.
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Unless I skip the F30 generation completely--which is entirely possible, depending on how long I keep the E90--I have a feeling my answer may end up being "Individual" again.

There are bits and pieces to like and dislike in all three lines. I don't have a clear favorite and probably won't until I see them in person. In a few years when BMW Individual options become available for the F30, it will be interesting to see whether they take the form of add-ons to these trim lines, a distinct fifth "Individual" line, or freedom to blur the lines and mix & match materials. Judging by the way BMW Individual currently markets to the rest of the world, some combination of #2 and #1 seems likely, but they never seem to quite close the door on "the sky's the limit" either.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:34 PM
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BMW will certainly bring these themes over - they've spent a lot of time marketing these optional lines. These Lines will make manufacturing cheaper for BMW.
Which is very interesting in light of efforts obviously expended to make customization of each customers vehicle so routine on the factory floor. When we toured Regensburg in July, they emphasized during the tour how they took pride in the ability to build assembly line style a complex array of customization into production line vehicles. The new "Lines" defeat that.

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Unless I skip the F30 generation completely--which is entirely possible, depending on how long I keep the E90--I have a feeling my answer may end up being "Individual" again.

There are bits and pieces to like and dislike in all three lines. I don't have a clear favorite and probably won't until I see them in person. In a few years when BMW Individual options become available for the F30, it will be interesting to see whether they take the form of add-ons to these trim lines, a distinct fifth "Individual" line, or freedom to blur the lines and mix & match materials. Judging by the way BMW Individual currently markets to the rest of the world, some combination of #2 and #1 seems likely, but they never seem to quite close the door on "the sky's the limit" either.
With the new offerings I wholeheartedly agree that "Individual" or freedom to blur is essential. For example, that red stripe across the dash in the "Sport" line just ruins it for me. One of the things that really clinched the deal for me in getting the E93 was the ability to customize. At least the MT is going to hang around for at least one more iteration! Of course, I've already decided to keep my E93 "forever" so all of this is just armchair quarterbacking. . . . . . .
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BMW will certainly bring these themes over - they've spent a lot of time marketing these optional lines. These Lines will make manufacturing cheaper for BMW.
I'm still not convinced. Mercedes and Audi have both done this as well in Europe. Audi used to offer the full interior design themes in the U.S. but no longer. BMW may very well limit the choices to certain build configurations. For example, if you get the tan interior you get the "Luxury" interior treatment. I'm not saying they definitely will do this, but I guess I'm skeptical until I see a BMWNA release with this information specifically for U.S.-market cars.

One side of me says they will offer this though to limit the customization ability we currently have. For example, you can get Oyster leather and light poplar wood on an M Sport. On the F30, M Sport might be limited to alu trim and one wood and only black or gray leather.
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I just wish there was an option to do the sport or m-sport and get rid of some of the red/blue accents.
+1 IMO it cheapens the look of the car.
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:54 AM
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sport probably. I read somewhere that the sport line will have a lower ride height. Can you confirm this?
Yes, part of the M Sport package includes

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The M Sport package, which will become available after launch, is designed for this very purpose and has been developed specifically for this model series. It includes the lowered M Sport suspension, featuring a 10 millimeter (0.4 in.) drop in ride height, firmer suspension and damping, and larger anti-roll bars.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:50 AM
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Think the M-Sport package will be available with X-drive equipped cars? with previous gen you couldnt get sport suspension with x-drive....
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Which is very interesting in light of efforts obviously expended to make customization of each customers vehicle so routine on the factory floor. When we toured Regensburg in July, they emphasized during the tour how they took pride in the ability to build assembly line style a complex array of customization into production line vehicles. The new "Lines" defeat that.



With the new offerings I wholeheartedly agree that "Individual" or freedom to blur is essential. For example, that red stripe across the dash in the "Sport" line just ruins it for me. One of the things that really clinched the deal for me in getting the E93 was the ability to customize. At least the MT is going to hang around for at least one more iteration! Of course, I've already decided to keep my E93 "forever" so all of this is just armchair quarterbacking. . . . . . .
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I'm still not convinced. Mercedes and Audi have both done this as well in Europe. Audi used to offer the full interior design themes in the U.S. but no longer. BMW may very well limit the choices to certain build configurations. For example, if you get the tan interior you get the "Luxury" interior treatment. I'm not saying they definitely will do this, but I guess I'm skeptical until I see a BMWNA release with this information specifically for U.S.-market cars.

One side of me says they will offer this though to limit the customization ability we currently have. For example, you can get Oyster leather and light poplar wood on an M Sport. On the F30, M Sport might be limited to alu trim and one wood and only black or gray leather.
Most BMWs sold in its big markets - U.S. and China - are not offered a la carte. they are pre-orered by dealers. The majority of the customers are not willing to wait for 3 months for a car.

Yes BMW's manufacturing has great flexibility for these options, but they are likely not the main reason BMW is doing well as a premium car maker. While I do like the way it's done (that's how I did with my car), from the business perspective, individual options make manufacturing more costly and harder to keep track of. Also, mistakes do happen during the communication process between customers and CAs.

I guess we'll wait and see how BMWUSA will handle this.
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Yes, part of the M Sport package includes
From what I've read the Sport line is not the same as the M Sport package and will not have the lowered ride height. It looks to me the only differences between the lines are more cosmetic with different colors / highlights / gauges / etc. Functionally they seem to be identical. The largest difference I can see between the three is the Sport line includes sport seats whereas the other packages do not. Or does anyone know differently?
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From what I've read the Sport line is not the same as the M Sport package and will not have the lowered ride height. It looks to me the only differences between the lines are more cosmetic with different colors / highlights / gauges / etc. Functionally they seem to be identical. The largest difference I can see between the three is the Sport line includes sport seats whereas the other packages do not. Or does anyone know differently?
There is an "Adaptive Suspension" option available for all lines which will lower the body by 10mm. Only the M Sport package will have the "M Sport Suspension" that will also lower it by 10mm, and an "M Adaptive Sport Suspension" option.

A 10mm body drop is all one can expect from a stock F30. I would imagine with the "adaptive" thing it would be difficult to do a further aftermarket body drop.
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What does modern mean? Minimalist/no options? So like 4 speakers, cassette player, no navi.
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What does modern mean? Minimalist/no options? So like 4 speakers, cassette player, no navi.
It probably means you'll find a Japanese rock garden in the trunk.
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Think the M-Sport package will be available with X-drive equipped cars? with previous gen you couldnt get sport suspension with x-drive....
I am sure it will be, and as in the past I expect it will be an appearance package only on AWD cars. They have always had their own suspension tuning, about halfway between sport and non-sport RWD suspensions in stiffness, and I don't expect that to change.
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I like the contrast stitching, but what's with colored strip across the dash. Cheese. It reminds me of my 1993 Ford Probe.
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I went on a rant about this on e90post so I won't do it again here. If I were to choose, Probably the Sport or M-Sport.
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Hard to believe this will be cheaper to build. For instance, there will be FOUR different versions of black Dakota leather: Normal (LCSW), Sport with red accents (LCL3), Luxury (LCLZ) and Modern with dark Oyster accents (LCL8).

Presumably, that also means that if you want black leather with your sport model, you can only get it with red accents. If you want black leather with red accents with your M sport package, not allowed. Or if you want Oyster or Saddle Brown leather with your sport or M sport, verboten.

Seems reeeeeally complicated to me...

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Hard to believe this will be cheaper to build. For instance, there will be FOUR different versions of black Dakota leather: Normal (LCSW), Sport with red accents (LCL3), Luxury (LCLZ) and Modern with dark Oyster accents (LCL8).

Presumably, that also means that if you want black leather with your sport model, you can only get it with red accents. If you want black leather with red accents with your M sport package, not allowed. Or if you want Oyster or Saddle Brown leather with your sport or M sport, verboten.

Seems reeeeeally complicated to me...

Totally agree. I cannot believe BMW is forcing this crap on us. But then again...they did the same with run flats, no spare, no dipstick, removal of tint band on windshield, etc..
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This car is just plain too big now. The E90 is really too big and this just makes it worse. Probably look at an A3, 1 Series, TT-S or something like that instead. Hopefully the 1 Series hatch makes it over here. I do like the stated characteristics of the 4 cylinder turbo, I'd just like it in something smaller than a tank.
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I like the contrast stitching, but what's with colored strip across the dash. Cheese. It reminds me of my 1993 Ford Probe.
I had a 1993 Probe too! You're right, it did have an accent stripe like that. Not my favorite part of the new interior design.
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