Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E34 (1989 - 1995)

E34 (1989 - 1995)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-29-2011, 02:34 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
Exclamation E34 wont start!!!

hey guys,

I have come up to some issues with the bimmer. It left me stranded on a major road in the city, then it started and gave me enough to take me home and literally died in front of the apartment building (thanks for that one).
The car keeps giving me the message "Getriebeprogramm" in the Check Control window, which after translation to english means "Transmission program".
The car starts to idle erratically, looses power, the radio shuts off, the abs light, the emergency brake light and every other light on the dashboard comes on, and it finally shuts off.
It also gives me the message "betriebsanleitg" which google cannot translate for me.

Im braking my head over this one, i have no clue whats wrong with it, but i need it running, cause its getting cold here and riding the motorcycle to work on this temperatures its gonna suck.

Any ideas feel free to send my way fellas,

thanks,

Jorge
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 10-29-2011, 08:15 AM
robertobaggio20 robertobaggio20 is offline
Banned
Location: earth
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,403
Mein Auto: car
Stomp test mate. Do that and post back.

In all "the **** just hit the fan" situations, please remember to work methodically from basics, step by step. I know its very difficult to do that when you're frustrated but there's no other way to do it. We are not mechanics, and we can't see your car. So you will need to do all the usual step by steps and post your results here for each thing that you did. You'll also need to scan the bentley manual's appropriate troubleshooting checklists for directives. If you haven't found the problem and fixed it by then, we can help you troubleshoot.

That's the most effective way for the forum to interface with an experienced E34 owner imo. Newbies, of course, will go to pieces anyway so we need to be more patient with them naturally.

And that german word means "operating manual". Please see :

http://www.dict*****german-english/Be...anleitung.html

Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-29-2011, 08:50 AM
BMR_LVR's Avatar
BMR_LVR BMR_LVR is offline
Humble E34 lover
Location: Asheboro, NC
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,264
Mein Auto: 1992 525i
Hello Jorge. I agree with pulling the codes via stomp test if your car can do that, as well as taking a methodical approach to the problem.

My first thought, from your description, is that you may have a problem with your battery/charging system. I know that may sound a little loopy, but there have been times when the trans program error came up because of a bad alternator. These cars need proper voltage and amperage to function properly.

My recommendation is to have the battery and alternator tested with the proper equipment. You can check your battery voltage (should be minimum of 12.6 volts), but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is okay. Since your car is not running, you can't check the alternator with it on the car. It is not terribly difficult to remove and have it bench tested.

Steve
__________________
Most problems are usually something simple !

Quote:
Originally Posted by noego View Post
It's Deja Poo - as in, I've heard this **** before.
Steve

Calypso Red 1992 525i with 200K miles

1991 735i - Sold
1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-29-2011, 09:01 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
Stomp test on European Specs??? I thought that was only for US... I tried but nothing, so it must be for US specs only.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-29-2011, 09:08 AM
BMR_LVR's Avatar
BMR_LVR BMR_LVR is offline
Humble E34 lover
Location: Asheboro, NC
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,264
Mein Auto: 1992 525i
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1992jorge525 View Post
Stomp test on European Specs??? I thought that was only for US... I tried but nothing, so it must be for US specs only.
Yeah, I didn't think yours had the capability. That's why I specified "if your car can do that". Do you konw anyone that has a code reader that you could use? Getting access to any codes is critical in the dagnosis process.

Steve
__________________
Most problems are usually something simple !

Quote:
Originally Posted by noego View Post
It's Deja Poo - as in, I've heard this **** before.
Steve

Calypso Red 1992 525i with 200K miles

1991 735i - Sold
1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-29-2011, 11:05 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMR_LVR View Post
Yeah, I didn't think yours had the capability. That's why I specified "if your car can do that". Do you konw anyone that has a code reader that you could use? Getting access to any codes is critical in the dagnosis process.

Steve
i know, man, i know. lets see what i can do tomorrow..... for now early halloween party!!!

c ya

Jorge
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-05-2011, 05:18 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
A week of research, 3 hours of using every possible diagnostic computer available and two hours of switching the problem part and the car is back on the road. The problem? The almighty alternator....

A week taking the bus..... 15 euros
Towing fee.... 80 dollars
Trading radiator for alternator and free bay shop fees...... Priceless lol

Thanks fellas for all the advice.

Jorge
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-05-2011, 05:23 AM
robertobaggio20 robertobaggio20 is offline
Banned
Location: earth
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,403
Mein Auto: car
How can it be the alternator? If it was the alternator, the battery symbol would have lit up on your instrument cluster and stayed on even after the car started and would actually give you 30 minutes driving time before the battery went flat. And your battery would need to be recharged after this whole affair as well. I strongly advise that you have your battery trickle charged rather than charging it through the overhauled alternator.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-05-2011, 05:34 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
Aside from the battery light the car was doing everything u just mentioned. After running all the diagnostics on it, it came coming up to the alternator not charging the battery back up. After the replacement ran all the tests again and it passed all for battery, alternator and all. We double checked and triple checked the main ground wires, hot wires, and every possible fuse and relay laying around the car. The trouble shooting list was huge. So far so good. For a second we even thought it was a bad ground in the radio, check connections all good. So I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-05-2011, 07:48 AM
BMR_LVR's Avatar
BMR_LVR BMR_LVR is offline
Humble E34 lover
Location: Asheboro, NC
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,264
Mein Auto: 1992 525i
Glad you got it fixed Jorge

I see my hunch (post #3) was correct. Your description of the way it was acting just made me think it was an electrical charging issue and not the transmission.

Steve
__________________
Most problems are usually something simple !

Quote:
Originally Posted by noego View Post
It's Deja Poo - as in, I've heard this **** before.
Steve

Calypso Red 1992 525i with 200K miles

1991 735i - Sold
1992 525i - Sold
1995 325is - Sold
2000 528i - Sold

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-05-2011, 03:06 PM
robertobaggio20 robertobaggio20 is offline
Banned
Location: earth
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,403
Mein Auto: car
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1992jorge525 View Post
Aside from the battery light the car was doing everything u just mentioned. After running all the diagnostics on it, it came coming up to the alternator not charging the battery back up. After the replacement ran all the tests again and it passed all for battery, alternator and all. We double checked and triple checked the main ground wires, hot wires, and every possible fuse and relay laying around the car. The trouble shooting list was huge. So far so good. For a second we even thought it was a bad ground in the radio, check connections all good. So I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Then I strongly advise that you check that battery light bulb in your instrument cluster. And this would be a very good warning for everyone too. Steve sir, if you please, do insert this in your sticky's to do list. Jorge went through an unnecessary and costly list of things to do when this battery light should have done the trick.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-05-2011, 08:37 PM
13a525 13a525 is offline
Registered User
Location: utah
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 22
Mein Auto: 3000gtVR4/525I
yeah i got a 3000gt that acted this way when the alternator went out its almost like it shorts the whole thing, nothing to do but check this stuff... crazy
__________________
1991 BMW 525I M50
1994 Mitsu 3000gtVR4
1989 Ford f-250 AKA "the ****box"
2002 Jeep liberty " the white-hot money pit"
1997 Toyota Supra
Can't get enough of the cars!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-06-2011, 07:16 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
In all and all, I learned a whole bunch more about this ride.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-06-2011, 07:18 AM
1992jorge525 1992jorge525 is offline
'92 BMW 525i
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 231
Mein Auto: 1992 BMW 525i
By the way the battery light should come on when u first turn the key...... Right?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-20-2013, 12:25 PM
530ifreak 530ifreak is offline
Registered User
Location: Arlington Washington
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Mein Auto: 1995 530i
I just fixed the same issue with my 95 530 I it's the alternator that is causing your troubles I believe. Mine gave me trans program codes and the dash lot up like a Christmas tree I replaced the alternator and no more trans code or lights
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E34 (1989 - 1995)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms