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Old 11-07-2011, 04:34 PM
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My old 2010 X5 diesel got 21-22mpg consistently over 32k miles. Wife driven, 25-33% freeway. Not sure she ever got WOT though....
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:44 PM
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It kills me when people discuss fuel economy on a $65,000 vehicle....

^^^Agree with Mike. Like different, like 'diesel'

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Old 11-07-2011, 07:35 PM
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You are right Ard. It does sound cheap. I'll change from "better MPG" to "less profit for the Oil co." from now on.
I don't really mean it like that- it's just that the calculus of 'what does diesel cost' and 'does it offset the price of the car' seems rather silly.

I'm all for spending less on fuel and not filling up as often- but it is a byproduct and not the 'financial reason' for buying the D.

Thats all....
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I don't really mean it like that- it's just that the calculus of 'what does diesel cost' and 'does it offset the price of the car' seems rather silly.

I'm all for spending less on fuel and not filling up as often- but it is a byproduct and not the 'financial reason' for buying the D.

Thats all....
I figured that. I was teasing ... never the less, you had a point. It does sound silly to talk MPG on such a $$ vehicle.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:51 PM
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It kills me when people discuss fuel economy on a $65,000 vehicle....

^^^Agree with Mike. Like different, like 'diesel'

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Old 11-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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There's been many threads on this very topic. Do a search. This topic has been beat to death. and welcome to BFest
U r right . Just found quite a few posts on 35D
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:15 PM
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Yujia,

In VERY simple terms, Torque = thrust and power off the line. HP = acceleration and how fast the car moves through the RPM's.

I think both are important, but HP isn't much use without a lot of torque. For example, I owned a 2008 535i and a 2011 Infiniti FX35. Both had the same HP, but the Infiniti had less torque. The difference was VERY noticeable.
Matt, thanks for ur education! Very good explanation
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:34 PM
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Matt, thanks for ur education! Very good explanation
You're welcome. The 35d does have slightly less horsepower than the 35i, but believe me, there is so much power you would barely know. The first time I put my foot to the floor, I really felt like the front of the car was going to lift of the ground (like Vin Diesel in the Fast and the Furious... haha). It honestly took me by surprise. My fiancee was in the passenger seat, and she gasped as it threw her back in her seat.

For me, the getting the diesel was the best decision ever...
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:10 AM
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Or, as Warren Buffett would say...most people who have REAL money don't waste it on "luxury" items and get it by saving and investing wisely.


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Old 11-08-2011, 04:52 PM
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We have both...the BMW X5d and the JettaTDI. I drive the BMW and my 17 yr old drives the Jetta. The BMW is just a better car. The VW has a nice ride and it gets 40+ mpg. It is a safe and affordable car that is affordable to feed. I would never put a new driver in an expensive car. My daughter ran into our garage w/ the Jetta before we even had the paper plates off! I would say that the Nav seems more user-friendly on the VW then the BMW. We love the convenience of more mpg w/ the diesels. The giddy-up and go is much better w/ diesels.
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Old 11-08-2011, 05:53 PM
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I am considering a '12 X5d for my wife. We have a 4 year old and another little one on the way. My wife currently drives an e83 X3 and loves it despite the stiffer ride; the problem is space. With the little one on the way this is only going to get worse.

The new version of the X3 is roomier than our current X3, but the space would probably just suffice given the expanding family. I hadn't considered the X5 previously, but I just got a lease quote from a NE dealer on a '12 X5d (36 mo. 12/miles $600/mo, $5k down). That seems like a good deal (almost too good). In the past I've always paid cash and bought used, but I've also been a Japanese-built Toyota/Lexus 4x4 owner. Even though our X3 has been solid, I'm reluctant to buy a used X5 due to the complexity and expense of repairs. I figure the lease would insulate me from most of the repair troubles, if any. It would also allow us to "try on" the X5.

Do you think the X5d would be a good fit for my family? In my neck of the woods we have rotten winter driving conditions for extended periods of time. More than anything I want a solid, safe vehicle.

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Old 11-08-2011, 06:24 PM
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I am considering a '12 X5d for my wife. We have a 4 year old and another little one on the way. My wife currently drives an e83 X3 and loves it despite the stiffer ride; the problem is space. With the little one on the way this is only going to get worse.

The new version of the X3 is roomier than our current X3, but the space would probably just suffice given the expanding family. I hadn't considered the X5 previously, but I just got a lease quote from a NE dealer on a '12 X5d (36 mo. 12/miles $600/mo, $5k down). That seems like a good deal (almost too good). In the past I've always paid cash and bought used, but I've also been a Japanese-built Toyota/Lexus 4x4 owner. Even though our X3 has been solid, I'm reluctant to buy a used X5 due to the complexity and expense of repairs. I figure the lease would insulate me from most of the repair troubles, if any. It would also allow us to "try on" the X5.

Do you think the X5d would be a good fit for my family? In my neck of the woods we have rotten winter driving conditions for extended periods of time. More than anything I want a solid, safe vehicle.
I think you should "try on" the X5 and see how it goes. You will have plenty of room for two adults, one booster, one car seat, and a stroller in the back. If your 4 yr old still likes to ride in the stroller you need to consider that double strollers are bigger and heavier to lift up into an SUV. OH....and don't forget to get her the heated steering wheel.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:00 PM
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OH....and don't forget to get her the heated steering wheel.
Our X3 has one and it is incredible.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:45 PM
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Do you think the X5d would be a good fit for my family?.
I'm afraid not. Vehicle like the X5 have several features which may not be the best for small children such as; The stiffer suspension may cause upset stomach in small children and cause them to barf on the nice leather, the G-Force generated during hard take-off and cornering force will likely strain their neck and the larger - higher than normal head rest will not allow them to see up front and remain quiet during a trip. For you tho ... that's a whole new ball game

P.S. Before anyone jumps up to high, it's good humor ....
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:39 PM
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You're welcome. The 35d does have slightly less horsepower than the 35i, but believe me, there is so much power you would barely know. The first time I put my foot to the floor, I really felt like the front of the car was going to lift of the ground (like Vin Diesel in the Fast and the Furious... haha). It honestly took me by surprise. My fiancee was in the passenger seat, and she gasped as it threw her back in her seat.

For me, the getting the diesel was the best decision ever...
35d sounds like a great car... the only problem for me is that its a little over budget...if i get a 35d ,not 35i , i may need pay $10,000 more at least .... looks like i have to go with 35i unlessi got approval from my wife to spend another $15,000 on X5
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35d sounds like a great car... the only problem for me is that its a little over budget...if i get a 35d ,not 35i , i may need pay $10,000 more at least .... looks like i have to go with 35i unlessi got approval from my wife to spend another $15,000 on X5
I think you are confused... The X5 35d is CHEAPER than the 35i when you factor all the rebates, incentives and lower running costs. Run the lease numbers...
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about MPG - i drive faster from my wife and have better MPG... a lot depends on style of driving
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35d sounds like a great car... the only problem for me is that its a little over budget...if i get a 35d ,not 35i , i may need pay $10,000 more at least .... looks like i have to go with 35i unlessi got approval from my wife to spend another $15,000 on X5
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I think you are confused... The X5 35d is CHEAPER than the 35i when you factor all the rebates, incentives and lower running costs. Run the lease numbers...
Matt is correct.

Pretty funny actually....we may get his butt into a diesel yet!

Yujia- do your wife a favor () and run the numbers... you'll be surprised.

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Matt is correct.

Pretty funny actually....we may get his butt into a diesel yet!

Yujia- do your wife a favor () and run the numbers... you'll be surprised.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=558456
Ard, I think an angel just got their wings - you agreed with me on something

Ha, just kidding... After I posted this, I realized that he may be comparing the 35d to the 35i base. Although, honestly, I don't think the base model really does this car justice. You need a few options to really enjoy it to the fullest. Just my two cents...
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I am considering a '12 X5d for my wife. We have a 4 year old and another little one on the way. My wife currently drives an e83 X3 and loves it despite the stiffer ride; the problem is space. With the little one on the way this is only going to get worse.

The new version of the X3 is roomier than our current X3, but the space would probably just suffice given the expanding family. I hadn't considered the X5 previously, but I just got a lease quote from a NE dealer on a '12 X5d (36 mo. 12/miles $600/mo, $5k down). That seems like a good deal (almost too good). In the past I've always paid cash and bought used, but I've also been a Japanese-built Toyota/Lexus 4x4 owner. Even though our X3 has been solid, I'm reluctant to buy a used X5 due to the complexity and expense of repairs. I figure the lease would insulate me from most of the repair troubles, if any. It would also allow us to "try on" the X5.

Do you think the X5d would be a good fit for my family? In my neck of the woods we have rotten winter driving conditions for extended periods of time. More than anything I want a solid, safe vehicle.
Buy a MB 4matic wagon. This is the absolute best family vehicle for size, performance, safety, etc. The cost of admission is high, but this is the car I would trust to place my family.
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Buy a MB 4matic wagon. This is the absolute best family vehicle for size, performance, safety, etc. The cost of admission is high, but this is the car I would trust to place my family.
The most wealthy automotive demographic in the world buys an E-Class wagon. Crazy, but true.

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I think you are confused... The X5 35d is CHEAPER than the 35i when you factor all the rebates, incentives and lower running costs. Run the lease numbers...
whats the rebate and incentives for getting a x5 35d ? I see one guy said $2500 credit, another guy $4500 credit ?
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Ard, I think an angel just got their wings - you agreed with me on something

Ha, just kidding... After I posted this, I realized that he may be comparing the 35d to the 35i base. Although, honestly, I don't think the base model really does this car justice. You need a few options to really enjoy it to the fullest. Just my two cents...
Yes, Matt,

I am comparing the 35d to the 35i base ... i probly will get a35i base + leather seats...i havent done much research on those options and features, packages yet....I will see if I want to add more options but i think you are right, for X5 , I need a few options to really enjoy it to the fullest...

what are those best X5 options almost 90% of X5 owners here got ?

I want some recommendations ~~~
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Matt is correct.

Pretty funny actually....we may get his butt into a diesel yet!

Yujia- do your wife a favor () and run the numbers... you'll be surprised.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=558456
35D a little over budget for me i need save some money to buy a mini for my wife later
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Yujia,

I would look at the X5 35i Sport Activity vs. the X5 35d. I would not consider the X5 35i Base. It's too bare bones.

The most common (and honestly the bare minimum I would get is)
- Sport Activity Package
- Premium Package
- Multi-contour Seats
- Space Saver Spare

On the Sport Activity Package there is some debate over whether to get the 19 or 20 inch wheels. It depends on the roads in your area and what you are looking for. The 19's ride better, the 20's look better (IMO). I know Ard will disagree

Both the 35i and the 35d have the following credits/rebates:
$1730 Nav Credit (you have to order Nav to get this - either standalone or in a package)
$1000 November Drive Event Credit
$1000 Owner Loyalty Credit (if you qualify)

Additionally, the 35d ONLY has the $2500 Eco credit. So, if you get the 35d there are potentially $6230 worth of credits in total.
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