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Disparities In Acceleration Times
Why is it when professional drivers drive the same car they emerge with vastly different results?
Let's take the BMW X6M 0 - 60mph times Motor Trend 4.0 seconds Car and Driver 4.3s Edmunds 4.3s Autoblog 4.5s Left Lane News 4.7s There is a gulf of difference between 4.0s and 4.7s. It is as if they were driving different cars. Why is there such disparity? As an anecdote it is interesting that UK editorials are the opposite! Car 4.7s CarBuyer 4.7s Top Gear 4.7s The above three times are measured for a velocity change of 0 - 62mph UK confers; USA differs....why so? Last but not least, is it not time for the USA to start using metric measurements? Afterall this is 2011. Is it not time for the UK to switch to left hand drive cars? Why operate the gears with the weaker hand? |
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I wonder whether they make up the figures! Look, even the 2011 Porsche Cayenne Turbo has alot of variation in tested acceleration times:
Insideline 0 - 60mph 4.7s Autoweek 0 - 60mph 4.3s The use of sophisticated timing equipment should make time differences down to hundreths of a second. How can some drivers test a BMW X6M and have a difference of 0.7 seconds? Could it be quality control ie lack of it on BMW's side? Two cars may look identical but there may be measurable differences when driven to extremes. Could it be varying skills of the drivers? Could it be non-standard parameters eg some use launch control, some don't. There has to be an agreed set standard when testing acceleration times. The car magazines should be clear about parameters eg the type of surface, the relative humidity, ambient temperature, windspeed, type of tyres used, weather conditions. It should be a proper scientific report and not indisciplined waffle. Since launch control is available, conduct two tests: with and without it. Motor Trend 0 - 60mph 4.0s Left Lane News 0 - 60mph 4.7s Manufacturer 0 - 60mph 4.5s Using simple maths 60mph = 29.33yards/s According to Left Lane the X6M will reach 60mph in a distance of 137.85 yards (about 126.05 metres) According to Motor Trend 117.32 yards (107.28m) It is like testing two completely different cars. Obviously the Left Lane car will be treated to the tail light LED Display of Motor Trend! |
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I don't have much time now but I must say that although rate of change of velocity describes acceleration, passing rates of change of acceleration figures are seldom given. If one would scrutinize the latter, it is clear that this figure is decreasing with time. In other words it takes a shorter time to get from 30-60mph than it does from 60-90mph. A great engine would be one that accelerates from 60-90 as quickly as it would do 30-60.
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Rolling starts
I read a while ago that most car mags are using a rolling start. In an attempt to minimize wear and tear on press cars.
So, if you launch at 5 mph vrs 2 mph you might get those differences. I'm thinking it is a lack of talent among the press. I remember that motorcycles 0 - 60 and 1/4 mile runs we're done by the same hired gun who could launch the crouch rockets and live to tell about it. |
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Though technically correct (rolling start), I think what you read is that some magazines use 'rollout' in their calculations and some don't.
Rollout should be used only for 1/4 mile type runs (head to head). It is inappropriate and sensationalistic to use it for 0-60. Using a rollout for 0-60 shaves about .3 seconds. Most U.S. magazines use them, most European ones don't. There are other factors that determine time of course - car in question, DA, driver, etc., but most 'magazine' variances can be explained by the use or non-use of rollout for testing. Rollout explained (from a different Forum). Quote:
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also tire temp, oil temp, air temp, track condition/material, weight of car (full tank vs near empty + driver), etc. all play a part. Rarely are all of these things specified in the final figures so a true comparison is not likely
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traction control on or off
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