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Old 02-19-2013, 02:24 PM
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New owner with problems already!!

Hello everyone, I just bought a 2012 535i Msport about 2 weeks ago. The car had about 19k miles on it. Loved the car but ran into a problem on my first road trip. I was driving back from the road trip and only had about 50 miles to go to be back home and was running low on gas. I pull over and fill up $20.00 which is about 5 gallons of gas so I can just get home. I start the car after the $20.00 and the fuel gauge shows that its completely full. I know for a fact 5 gallons is not going to fill up the tank. So I pull over, turn off the car and turn it back on and same thing. Its currently showing that I have about 400 miles left before empty. I have an appointment with BMW tomorrow morning but this just upsets me. Ive owned a few cars in the past and this is the first time Ive ran into any kind of problem within the first few years of ownership. I really hope this doesnt predict my future with this car because I love the feel and looks of the car. Anyone else have any similar problems?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:33 PM
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Wow ! Never heard that one before. Thats what a full 5 year mechanical warranty is for. I am sure it'll be fixed quickly and won't be a problem going forward. Let us know what the dealer says. GL !
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:36 PM
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Wow ! Never heard that one before. Thats what a full 5 year mechanical warranty is for. I am sure it'll be fixed quickly and won't be a problem going forward. Let us know what the dealer says. GL !
Thanks man. Yeahh Im sure they will resolve the issue but this is my first BMW and dont want it to be my last. Just disappointed that Im having problems with a car after spending $50k on it. But we will see what the the dealership will say.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:41 PM
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Thanks man. Yeahh Im sure they will resolve the issue but this is my first BMW and dont want it to be my last. Just disappointed that Im having problems with a car after spending $50k on it. But we will see what the the dealership will say.
I had 3K worth of problems on my E60 after it was out of warranty and it didn't cause me to leave the brand I loved the car so much (but I will never own one out of warranty again)!
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:44 PM
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Good Advise & My rule of thumb with the Ultimate Driving Machine ! It is a machine after all
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:59 PM
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Thanks man. Yeahh Im sure they will resolve the issue but this is my first BMW and dont want it to be my last. Just disappointed that Im having problems with a car after spending $50k on it. But we will see what the the dealership will say.
It doesn't matter if you spent 5 million on it - it's still a used car. You should be able to get it sorted out without any trouble. Good luck :-)
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:11 PM
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Yes. This has been happening to me. Someone told me in the heat, the gas vapros expand or something. I just ignore it and fill up my tank to full every time I need to fill the car up.

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Old 02-19-2013, 05:52 PM
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This thread cracks me up. All cars have problems especially BMW...a faulty fuel sending unit should be the least of things to worry about.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:09 PM
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There was an early issue with fuel sending units
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:18 PM
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This thread cracks me up. All cars have problems especially BMW...a faulty fuel sending unit should be the least of things to worry about.
My former Mercedes CL600 cost me 32K in maintenance and repairs over 3 years. There are not many BMWs that will ever cost this much to maintain.

You could buy a Japanese car and have very few issues but then again you would have a very boring car
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:21 PM
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Let me clarify - all German cars
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:21 PM
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Why dont you open/close gas cap and start the engine.
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:22 PM
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My former Mercedes CL600 cost me 32K in maintenance and repairs over 3 years. There are not many BMWs that will ever cost this much to maintain.

You could buy a Japanese car and have very few issues but then again you would have a very boring car
I thought 7k in 16 months was bad on my previous Audi..
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My former Mercedes CL600 cost me 32K in maintenance and repairs over 3 years. There are not many BMWs that will ever cost this much to maintain.

You could buy a Japanese car and have very few issues but then again you would have a very boring car
32k?? Holy crap. I re-built a 944 and it didn't even cost half that. Granted, it was 20 years ago but still. Holy crap, 32k??? What cost 32k, if you don't mind me asking...I'm a assuming a transmission and rear end were involved? And that air suspension crap?

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Old 02-19-2013, 07:46 PM
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I thought 7k in 16 months was bad on my previous Audi..
7 grand? Xfer case(s) or something? I'd never own an Audi outside warranty. My business partner had an S4 which burned a quart of oil every 1000 miles from day one and they insisted it was perfectly normal.




Thank you for contacting Audi Customer Care with your questions regarding the oil consumption in your S4. As you requested, I am sending you this informationin writing.

All properly operating internal combustion engines use a certain amount of oil to lubricate the elements that separate the combustion chamber from the crankcase, as well as those areas which are exposed to the hot gasses and flame of the combustion process. This oil is burned by the engine and processed through the exhaust system and related controls. The rate at which your vehicle's engine will consume oil depends on the quality and viscosity of oil, the speed at which the engine is operated, the climate, road conditions, and how vehicle is driven. Another factor is the amount of dilution within, and oxidation of, the lubricant.

Because of these variable, it is difficult to establish a standard rate of oil consumption. It is our belief that using up to one quart of oil per 1,000 miles of driving is within an acceptable range. As one would expect, oil consumption can go up or down depending on individual driving habits. If you have not already done so, you may consider having an oil consumption test performed by your dealer to find if you vehicle's consumption rate is within range. They will also be able to tell you of any conditions contributing to the rate of oil consumption.

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Old 02-20-2013, 06:12 AM
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4k for replacing failed mechatronics unit when my car had 10k miles. 3k for replacing TPMS, wheel bearing, MMI at 15k miles. Sold my car couple of months after that. Although my warranty was voided for chipping my car, my SA fought for me with Audi of America and got them covered..He received gift cards, appreciation letter in return !

Oil consumption is very common in early b8 models. 2011+ models have been a bit better. 2009 models had carbon build up problem too.
My car never had oil problem but had all kinds of other problems.
1Qt per 1000 miles is normal according to Audi. If its over that, they rebuild your engine free of cost.

I dont miss my Audi but I miss their customer care. AOA and my SA went to great lengths to put a smile on my face.

Unfortunately my local BMW dealer just sucks. BNA is equally bad.

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:27 AM
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I had 3K worth of problems on my E60 after it was out of warranty and it didn't cause me to leave the brand I loved the car so much (but I will never own one out of warranty again)!
It makes more sense to spend another $60k on a car than $3k in repairs. Hell people are spending $3k on tire warranties alone.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:46 AM
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There was a similar thread about this problem a few years ago where the fuel sensor lost it's calibration and showed a full tank with just a partial refill. The solution was to drive the car until nearly empty, then refill the tank until it was completly full to the brim. That should reset the calibration and it should read correctly after that.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:04 AM
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Just to show all isn't black, I've had my purchased-new 2012 535xi for 15 months and about 8000 miles, and it has been trouble-free with no visits to the shop. Of course, now that I've said that I'll probably have a problem tomorrow.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:02 PM
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I had 3K worth of problems on my E60 after it was out of warranty and it didn't cause me to leave the brand I loved the car so much (but I will never own one out of warranty again)!
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Exact same thing happened to me. Oil leaks?
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32k?? Holy crap. I re-built a 944 and it didn't even cost half that. Granted it 20 years ago but still. Holy crap, 32k??? What cost 32k, if you don't mind me asking...I'm a assuming a transmission and rear end were involved? And that air suspension crap?
Well the CL600 is a V12 with 2 turbos. In 2003 it cost $130k. Today the car starts at $160,300. It's completely overly engineered and amazing to drive. I loved it more than any car I've driven and has a complete hydraulic suspension. Below are a few of the costs. This isn't the complete list but you will get the idea:
4 new tires-1900.00
Instrument Cluster Replaced-Warranty from MB No Charge
Shifter Bezle not secure-57.50
Headlight Washer Drivers Side-283.00
Front and Rear Engine Mounts-1437.50 (Very Rough Idle at Stop)
4 wheel alignment with Caster/Camber Kit-189.95
Balance Tires (Discount tire could do it correctly-Bad vibration at 70mph) 65.95
Rear tires-992.86
Front Brakes and Rotors-705.59
Heater Hose Leaking-483.72
Dry Rotted Vent Hose-94.50
Spring Link Bushings-521.70
Engine Belt-186.40
Wiper Blades-57.00
Service B-539.95
O'Rings at Right Turbo charger leaking-335.40*
Transmission Mount Busted-229.90
Transmission Mount Faulty-MB replace no charge
Key quit working-239.20
Another Hose leaking-110.00
O'right at Left Turbo Charger-252.09
Some Nozzle( dont remember, part #215 830 02 54) -137.48
Torque Strut Bushing- 656.92*
ABC Accumulator Internally Ruptured & Sensor - 2570.63*
Tandem power steering/ABC pump $1900.00
AC Compressor $2700.00*
Water pump
Spark plugs air filter
Fuel pump
Fuel pump modulator
Senors
New tires $1900
Brakes and rotors $800
New shifter-safety park clip broke $1457.67
SRS RED light on. New clips (yellow) under seat $500
2 rims resurfaced $250
SRS Control Unit 494.40
Repair Coolant Leak 199.00
hydraulic line $1900
Hydraulic line from rear of car to front, had to drop subframe $4500
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:55 PM
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So that was 32k at dealer prices which are artificially inflated. I have 3 lifts in my garage, the full suite of BMW tools, and all of the tools I need to work on the car. The majority of what you paid was for human labor.
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Not all were dealer prices. Put it this way... the thermostat alone without labor cost over $400 bucks. I had never heard of a thermostat costing this much. The v8 thetmostat was much less expensive. But the v12 looked kinda like a mickey mouse shape.

My friend is a MB tech and did some work (during the last year) from his house to save me a few bucks. My extended waranty paid a lot of the repairs. He told me that he would never work on a V12 again. He said you have basically 1 full engine and 1/2 of another one crammed into 1 car. You can't even squeeze your hand in there. Parts and components have to be removed just to get to another. He said he can work on them but even he couldnt afford to own one. They are constinantly needing something. There are just too many components in this car to ever make it realiable and affordable to maintain.

Fun car though.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:11 PM
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Check this out. The CL was number 1 and not in a good way. Keep in mind the one in the link is an AMG but it's a V8. Through another half engine in there, additional cooling and electrical component.. It can be a nightmare to your pocketbook if your not prepared for the costs. Many of the CL forums figure the car costs about $0.90 per mile to drive.
http://jalopnik.com/5982789/the-most...ium=socialflow

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OP,

I wouldn't want this to get you all fired up about your new car. You have a warranty--get it to a dealer and have them look at it.

Gosh, this is minor compared to German car ownership--or flat out any car ownership. I had a Jeep Cherokee that ate money like a stripper during a druken night.

I'm sure your car will be fine. If you're not willing to have the occassional problem, switch to a Lexus. Not trying to be flippant, but cars do go bump in the night.

I trade in cars that are problem children. Some other person can deal with it. I'm not saying that's what you have, but I'm thinking it's a very easy fix. Even running some techron or proper 91 or 93 oct. can help if a sensor has been subjected to crappy fuel.

I dumped 7k in 4 months of my first German car (a used Audi C4 A6 Avant quattro)...then I traded it for new.

I think your car will be fine. Any of us that have had Audis, BMW's or MB's out of warranty have seen massive repair costs.

With a warranty, don't get too fired up. I can't see buying a used car without it having some teething problems.

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