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Old 04-23-2013, 08:34 PM
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I hit 5000 miles and the idrive showed I was 1 qt low
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:39 PM
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I was at 4500 miles and my dash told me I was at minimum. Went in for a top off last week.

Aus dude, with your s2 and the similar driving habits we likely have.... Surprising ours are so different.
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:32 AM
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so sorry to hear this problem, i ever have this situation,but i just change my car...your page really useful, at least, i learn the way to slove this kind of issue...
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:19 AM
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I was at 4500 miles and my dash told me I was at minimum. Went in for a top off last week.

Aus dude, with your s2 and the similar driving habits we likely have.... Surprising ours are so different.
I Drive like an old lady, lol ya right
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:28 AM
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I Drive like an old lady, lol ya right
And everybody's saying that there's nobody meaner
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She drives real fast and she drives real hard
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:16 AM
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I had to put 1 qt at 1500 miles and then another qt at 3500 miles. I voiced this both to my SA and CA and they said it is normal for the V8s to eat up oil. I also read in a past thread here that city driving consumes more oil. My commute is city driving. Maybe I need to take it out on the highway more often on the weekdays.

I've read so much on this that it makes me think it's normal as I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. I don't see any oil leaks on my garage floor so can't be a leak.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:25 PM
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:03 PM
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I just had another quart put in very recently. This makes it the third or fourth time I've had to add a quart.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:26 AM
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My 3 series does. They say it's normal. It has dinan stage 3... Perhaps this is why
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:42 AM
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...the engineers designed the engine with a life span of 100k...
I refuse to believe that.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:52 AM
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I refuse to believe that.
IIRC, the number is more like 200-250k as per Steve Dinan.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:21 AM
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I also read in a past thread here that city driving consumes more oil. My commute is city driving.
This isn't true - with city driving you do most of your mileage at low-medium rpm. The higher rpm, the higher suction pressure and oil take-in and burning. On the other hand - gas-rich mixture characteristic to short distance, low temperature, low rpm driving are all prone to dilute more gas in the oil, thus preventing its level from dropping.

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he said that was correct but I had to remember that the engineers designed the engine with a life span of 100k and that if I planned on going beyond that I'd better think about changing it sooner.
Unfortunately, the life span of current BMW engines is indeed some 100k miles only, I've been informed
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:51 AM
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What is all this talk about our engines being 'designed' to last a certain number of miles, be it 100, 200 or 250k? Can someone please point me to specifics, articles written, etc.? If so, I find it absurd! Mercedes engines last a lifetime...
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:00 AM
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Mercedes engines last a lifetime...
They used to, but don't any more - just like BMW's. Sad but true - the market is already so saturated it's just a better business to lease for cheap and make owners upgrade every 3 years than make them happy with the same car for 10-15 years.

BTW it's Mercedes who started this trend.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:39 PM
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This isn't true - with city driving you do most of your mileage at low-medium rpm. The higher rpm, the higher suction pressure and oil take-in and burning. On the other hand - gas-rich mixture characteristic to short distance, low temperature, low rpm driving are all prone to dilute more gas in the oil, thus preventing its level from dropping.



Unfortunately, the life span of current BMW engines is indeed some 100k miles only, I've been informed
American made engines now go well over 100k. For a BMW engine to go just 100k sounds foolish.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:29 PM
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They used to, but don't any more - just like BMW's. Sad but true - the market is already so saturated it's just a better business to lease for cheap and make owners upgrade every 3 years than make them happy with the same car for 10-15 years.
This is horrible news.

I keep cars forever and also have a '94 S500, '00 Range Rover and '04 LX470, with all engines going strong. The only 'programmed' failures I've experienced have been transmission failures in GM SUV's, where they failed like clockwork at 80k miles on a '97 Suburban and '99 Denali.

What exactly fails in these new BMW engines? Can they be rebuilt?

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Old 05-06-2013, 04:51 PM
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My 2013 750 iL has 7800 miles on it and have had to add 5 quarts of oil! About every 1500 miles the add oil light comes on. It's at the dealer now to check it out. Service manager says its the nature of the engine according to the know it all Germans..not leaking or smoking. Anyone else having this problem with the 445 h.p. 4.4 litre V-8 ??

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Old 05-06-2013, 05:45 PM
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I drive a 2004 325i sedan with 162K miles on it. For most of its life it used oil at a rate of about 7,500 mi per quart. Within the past 10,000 miles its usage increased dramatically and it now blows through a quart of oil in a little over 2,000 mi. I'm taking this as a sign of impending failure but it only needs to last me another month. This car is a manual and I wind it out like a top. The motor has turned a lot more revolutions than any slushbox E46 with similar mileage. Original clutch also.

I think I will only lease from now on because I don't want to own a modern car out of warranty and I don't want to risk loss of value if some idiot runs into me. And I'm going to go with the automatic now that they aren't so slushy anymore. All these years while I was waiting for the drivetrain to fail, which it never did, it was the peripherals that chewed my wallet.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:36 PM
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I suspect you did not follow a solid break in procedure for the first 2000 miles which meant the various seals did not properly set.

I have had 2 F10s now and neither have burned oil at all.
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:13 AM
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Contrary to what BMW specifically told me, I let my car break in for 3000 miles. I burned 1 quart in just over 5k. BMW explained that the cars no longer need a break in period, every engine is tested and ready to go. They also said the turbos may take a few thousand mile to get to full performance. Again, I broke my car in anyway.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:02 AM
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May be that is a good way to keep fresh oil in the engine always as they want to replace the oil at 15000 miles
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May be that is a good way to keep fresh oil in the engine always as they want to replace the oil at 15000 miles
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:47 AM
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For those burning through oil, do you notice a burnt oil smell at all? My 550 required one quart maybe 6 months ago, then the annual oil change brought the level up to the top. A few months later the oil level now reads half.

I do notice that there is a burnt oil (or perhaps another fluid) smell when I pull into the garage. Not overwhelming or anything but after 33k miles I figured things should be pretty well broken in.

Would the turbo's be a potential or likely source of an oil leak?
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Old 05-07-2013, 01:14 PM
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I took my car in for a regular service and found out I had an oil leak. He said it might be that I needed new turbos. My car only has 15000 miles on it. After everything was done I found out that the fan does not run long enough after you turn the car off. This causes some problem with some vents and overheating and caused an oil leak. Apparently this is a known issue with bmw v8's. Mine is a 2011, Anyway BMW fixed this and also updated the computer so that it would leave the fan on longer. I am hoping that this reduces the amount of oil I am burning or leaking because I was going in for a quart every 2500 miles.
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