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Old 11-05-2014, 08:59 PM
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Steering wheel sensor code issue.

Hi all I have a 2006 BMW 330xi and i am getting Steering wheel sensor message on the dash board.
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Old 11-06-2014, 04:55 AM
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There's no specific error on the dash that shows a bad steering angle sensor. When the SAS fails, you get dsc, abs, and brake lights.

If you have a steering error on the dash, it's most likely the elv lock error.

You can try moving the steering wheel while you switch ignition. This may releive tension on the lock and allow it to disengage.

If your battery is low, try changing it, having it registered, and see if the lock disengages.

Otherwise, the steering column must be repalced. It's about $1200 for a new column, plus a few hours labor to code and install.
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Old 11-08-2014, 06:24 PM
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Or if you're mechanically inclined, you can remove the steering column and relive the lock... It'll save you $1200, but from experience, not for the faint of heart and it takes some patience.
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Hi all I have a 2006 BMW 330xi and i am getting Steering wheel sensor message on the dash board.

THIS may help

Permanent fix noted HERE

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either replace column at $1200-$1400 and in 3 years time it will play up again... This pre-LCI lock design is a complete joke

or have an emulator installed

https://www.avtotools.com/index.php?productID=437

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Hi all I have a 2006 BMW 330xi and i am getting Steering wheel sensor message on the dash board.
Sorry guys had a issue with my PC at home and was not able to write.
It actually shows few lights lit up.... Brake,and few other ones. Some one said to me that it is faulty Steering angle sensor. Car is driving fine and not causing any issue in driving. But i want to make sure what the cause is. Like i said it shows three messages on display,
Brake (in red color) and also shows 4X4 ABS on display. I can check tomorrow and write here what all it says.
Thank you.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:34 PM
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Or if you're mechanically inclined, you can remove the steering column and relive the lock... It'll save you $1200, but from experience, not for the faint of heart and it takes some patience.
Thank you for reply. like i said it is not locked and car is driving fine. Just shows message on display. Brake light and few other msgs, but i will check tomorrow and let you know.
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Poor voltage may cause warning lights to go off
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Is the symbol red or yellow?
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:45 PM
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There's no specific error on the dash that shows a bad steering angle sensor. When the SAS fails, you get dsc, abs, and brake lights.

If you have a steering error on the dash, it's most likely the elv lock error.

You can try moving the steering wheel while you switch ignition. This may releive tension on the lock and allow it to disengage.

If your battery is low, try changing it, having it registered, and see if the lock disengages.

Otherwise, the steering column must be repalced. It's about $1200 for a new column, plus a few hours labor to code and install.
Sorry this is what displays on the monitor Brake light in Red DTS and ABS some one of the guys said it is going to be a steering angle sensor, car drive fine and causing no issue.
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Is the symbol red or yellow?
BRAKE letters are in red and abs dts in yellow
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BRAKE letters are in red and abs dts in yellow
Car is driving fine.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:53 PM
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Check battery whilst you re at it

Poor voltage may cause warning lights to go off
I will check battery tomorrow.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:55 PM
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Or if you're mechanically inclined, you can remove the steering column and relive the lock... It'll save you $1200, but from experience, not for the faint of heart and it takes some patience.
Thank you for the reply. yeah i can do it as long as i get idea what i need to shoot for.
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Or if you're mechanically inclined, you can remove the steering column and relive the lock... It'll save you $1200, but from experience, not for the faint of heart and it takes some patience.
Steering is not locked.
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Steering is not locked.

Not fer nuthin' and too easy, but have you checked THIS?

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Not fer nuthin' and too easy, but have you checked THIS?

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I tried that but no luck, will try tomorrow again.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:11 AM
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either replace column at $1200-$1400 and in 3 years time it will play up again... This pre-LCI lock design is a complete joke

or have an emulator installed

https://www.avtotools.com/index.php?productID=437

simple device but works wonder

The new part # removes the elv lock.

CAS module is updated to remove the elv check
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Sorry this is what displays on the monitor Brake light in Red DTS and ABS some one of the guys said it is going to be a steering angle sensor, car drive fine and causing no issue.
The optical disc or the eye is dirty or the unit is bad.

You can remove the SAS and clean it. See if it works again. Otherwise, you need a new SAS.
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There are DIY procedures for both angle and elv

There are DIY procedures for both angle and elv problems at the following link.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16

If its the steering angle sensor there is a DIY on how to replace or clean it.
If its the ELV there is a DIY on that to.

Best to check the battery first.
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When mine had those lit up it was the abs module too
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When mine had those lit up it was the abs module too
Did u replace the ABS module or what did u do.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:07 PM
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Should i go and run scan at autozone or advance parts and see what comes up.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:40 PM
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Try to find a BMW Scanner

Try to find a BMW Scanner
Generic Scanner can't get all the BMW Codes.
BMWhat
BMWlogger
coding setup
are the best and cheapest route.
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:18 AM
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Should i go and run scan at autozone or advance parts and see what comes up.
That won't reveal anything.

They can only pull faults from the DME.

You need faults pulled from the DSC module.

You need a BMW specific scanner
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