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E36 (1991 - 1999)
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:36 PM
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So heres exactly whats going on.. i recently cleaned my whole engine. i used a bunch of home ingredients including bleach and degreasers. i used these ingridients for about 3 days of cleaning my engine. on the 4th day i went to pressure wash it. i was on the way home when suddenly my car was stopping and going on its own(with my foot on the pedal of course). i was in 1st gear and it would lag when trying to go, in other words it was idle surging. i got home and the next day my car didnt want to start. so i changed the fuel pump fuse. it takes a 25 but i put a 30 because thats all i have. it was working fair for awhile. then last week i wanted my car back to perfection because it still wasnt working 100%. i found out there was water where the spark plugs were. i flushed out the water, sanded the spark plugs, played with the idle a little bit, and then thats when things really got worse. btw my idle hasnt been 100% either, even before all of this happened. now my car is running like shiiiiit! it sputters very bad! its doing the same thing from the begining, its sputtering very loud. in 2nd gear i can hit about 40mph without red lining. its bad. so my main problem with it right now is the sputtering and the stop and go issue i have. i figured with a clean engine my car would be working better but i was wrong. i really could use some help here. any ideas? i read so much on here about what it can be but i want to know forsure before i spend the money on it. oh and btw my computer in my car is also bad.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:27 PM
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first,

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the last line says it all, though. if the dme is messed up, then you need to get that addressed first.


however, since you decided to get everything wet with your homebrew, make sure it is dry completely before checking anything else out.


and read the stickies, you'll learn quite a bit from them, k??


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Old 01-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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i had no problem reading your post...

Id recommend letting the car idle at a stop for a few hours (assuming it wont overheat)

when you wash your engine... In the future... stay away from the electrical ignition items...

also when you wash it... its on and running.. and warm... dont use bleach
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:53 PM
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If his DME is bad, as he stated, idling the car for hours on end will not make a difference. Fix what you know is broken first.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:54 PM
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:02 PM
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i could read it as well, it was just very choppy, inconcise, and ended with 'my computer is bad...', so i was thinking to my self, well, duh!!??

how is the computer bad?? there are so many other things that it could be that it would be almost impossible to *not* come up with a wild guess and still have it be plausible.

if you 'know the computer is bad', then start from there.

other things that could be causing an issue are dirty icv, throttle plate, fuel filter, coils and/or ignition wires, spark plugs (yeah, i know... you 'sanded them'...), all the way up to and including a blown head gasket.

any way you look at it, the only thing we (as in the forum) can deduce from your post is that you have driveability issues and a bad dme (computer). if that is true, then the first thing that needs to be done is get it fixed.


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Old 01-02-2012, 05:09 PM
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i didnt see anything in that about not running... or a dme...(computer we can call that)
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:15 PM
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I forgot to mention that it was running while i cleaned it. it was warm and worked fine before that.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:18 PM
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i say its been about 2/3 weeks since i last cleaned my engine, so it should be dry by now, right?
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:20 PM
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one of my guys told me my dme is on default and i need a new one. he said it couldn't read, then he said i need a new dme. im not sure what its called but its a computer thing about 2 feet long and he connected it to my car then after that he said i need a new dme
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i didnt see anything in that about not running... or a dme...(computer we can call that)
who said anything about it running/not running in regard to driveability??

the comment, as i understood it, was regarding washing the engine down.

as for the bad computer, it was the last sentence...




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check and see if there is water where the spark plugs are
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I forgot to mention that it was running while i cleaned it. it was warm and worked fine before that.
YAhhh I learned this lesson the hard way, I washed my moms Odessy like this (but using a hose) and then when my dad tried driving it, it was acting up and eventually just stopped and was all 'ed up. I had to have everything dried off and what not then it ran again. Hopefully you didn't mess too much up and its just temporary
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i had no problem reading your post...

Id recommend letting the car idle at a stop for a few hours (assuming it wont overheat)

when you wash your engine... In the future... stay away from the electrical ignition items...

also when you wash it... its on and running.. and warm... dont use bleach
You had no problems reading his post, yet made a point of double spacing yours for ease of reading.

DF wasn't harping or saying ill, merely trying to make it easier for all of us to read and assist.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:52 PM
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there was water where the spark plugs were but there isnt anymore..
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:19 PM
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RE; I need help! E36

After you cleaned the plugs did you ever take care of the wires? thats where your problem is coming from also
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A little late for mr. 2nd though...
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:39 PM
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Its fixed! I had a wet spark plug (got it replaced). Next i bought new spark plug cables, they cost $167. and the coils had corosion(from the water) it had some green dust on them, i just cleaned it up and it worked fine. So new spark plug cables and i was good.
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Good job! Where did you buy the wires, and what brand are they? That's about $40 more than an OEM set from Pelican Parts.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:42 PM
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I had the same exact problem with my 99 Cadillac Eldorado. I washed my engine bay and I fouled all of my coil packs. Replaced them and no problems
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