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Old 01-04-2012, 09:07 PM
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Then concensus on m3post and all the other forums is that the F30 front end fascia, horrific hood line and headlights & kidney joined at the hip ...SUCK
Huge design fail, BMW has lost it's tasteful design team, apparently

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Old 01-04-2012, 09:24 PM
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Then concensus on m3post and all the other forums is that the F30 front end fascia, horrific hood line and headlights & kidney joined at the hip ...SUCK
Huge design fail, BMW has lost it's tasteful design team, apparently
I agree on all points!
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:23 PM
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I agree on all points!
Can you explain...how, like 90% the peeps on the F30 forum(s) ...CANNOT see this???
Are they in "DENIAL"?
Badge whores?
Myopic Fan boys?

This is BMW 3 series, after all...smallish, maneuverable, nimble, handling...form follows function German sports sedans (yes, coupes & verts, also)..."The ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE"...starting to look like a morph between Audi and Lexus.
I am sorry, as I LOVE(ed) the Roundel, but enough capitulation...?
BMW, the ultimate bloated Tokyo style bling bling machine
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This exact same thread was made five years ago prior to the E90 M3 and it was made probably about forty different times. It happens every generation.
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This exact same thread was made five years ago prior to the E90 M3 and it was made probably about forty different times. It happens every generation.
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Many on forums are emotionally and financially invested in the past and threatened by any change.

IMO the styling of the F30 is hardly revolutionary - indeed the F30 is an evolutionary development of a stylistic language applied to the E90 and further explored with the F01, F07, and F10.

I feel neither threatened nor particularly excited by the rather generic - benign - styling of the F30.
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:29 PM
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IMO the styling of the F30 is hardly revolutionary - indeed the F30 is an evolutionary development of a stylistic language applied to the E90 and further explored with the F01, F07, and F10.
Nail + head.

I'm actually rather fond of the exterior styling. I think it's fairly sharp and represents a sportier-looking evolution of the F10 (of which I rather admire). I think the one mistake they may end up making with the M is adding too much trim. Both the E46 and E9X M3's are clean, slick designs with very little in the way of M-sport-package-ish trim additions (lower grill inserts, off-color rear diffuser, etc). The only adornment an M-car needs is fender vents and giant brake ducts.
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I like what I've seen so far. Can't wait to see the coupe next.
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I still really like the previous E46 and my 1979 320i styles.

I passed by my BMW dealer last week on the way to the car wash in my Tahoe. They had the new 2012 BMWs all lined up facing the street, and I did a double take because they looked ridiculous with the enlarged grill kidneys. I decided to venture in and ask why BMW did this change, as to me, it looks hideous. The answer was because the Chinese Market preferred the larger grill design.

The front nose on the 5 & 7 series are extended and also look very odd. The reason for this, as I was told, is a safety requirement in Europe. I did not spend much time looking if they had the new 3 Series as I was running behind schedule.

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, BMW should start considering what the US market prefers as well.

My wife loves her '08 535xi, but she is now saying that the new 5 series looks fugly.
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"Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, BMW should start considering what the US market prefers as well."

Dude, this is probably my last BMW (they're too heavy!) but you might want to have a look at this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...cle-sales.html
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"Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, BMW should start considering what the US market prefers as well."

Dude, this is probably my last BMW (they're too heavy!) but you might want to have a look at this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...cle-sales.html
"BMW advertised last month 3-Series monthly lease payments on its website as low as $299 for shoppers with good credit. Mercedes has deals as low as $349 per month for its C-Class, its website said. BMW spent on average of $5,236 in incentives on 3- Series leases while Mercedes spent $2,385 on C-Class leases in November, Edmunds said."

The article also stated that BMW was offering larger discounts than GM is on their Cadillacs for people who buy/finance their cars.

BMW was trying to sell out their 3 Series inventories to clear the showrooms for the new 3 Series. This is the main reason for their increased sales, and, anyone can virtually give their products away! This also does not do well for our resale values.
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I like what I've seen so far. Can't wait to see the coupe next.
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Perhaps the recent unveiling of the M5 can provide insight into the current thinking at M. The M5 is purposeful, conveys BMW athleticism, and eschews garish add-on contrivances. I suspect we will see the same design language applied to the F30 M3. Given the F30 is an evolutionary development of E90 styling themes, the F30 M3 should provide a solid basis for M to make a clear strong declarative statement in terms of aesthetics, IMO.

The E92 sets the bar at a very high mark. When I look closely at the styling of my M3, I am truly astonished, I come away not wanting to change a single line, cue, or surface - something I have never said about another modern era BMW. I am certain that the new F30 M3 will offer a fresh invigorated persona and bring new accolades to M, but this enthusiasm will not diminish the E92M3. I am confident that the E92M3 will be savored not only for its athletic prowess, but also its evocative countenance by future enthusiasts.

I am very pleased with the present, and not afraid of the future.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:17 PM
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I still really like the previous E46 and my 1979 320i styles.

I passed by my BMW dealer last week on the way to the car wash in my Tahoe. They had the new 2012 BMWs all lined up facing the street, and I did a double take because they looked ridiculous with the enlarged grill kidneys. I decided to venture in and ask why BMW did this change, as to me, it looks hideous. The answer was because the Chinese Market preferred the larger grill design.

The front nose on the 5 & 7 series are extended and also look very odd. The reason for this, as I was told, is a safety requirement in Europe. I did not spend much time looking if they had the new 3 Series as I was running behind schedule.

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, BMW should start considering what the US market prefers as well.

My wife loves her '08 535xi, but she is now saying that the new 5 series looks fugly.
I agree on all points.
Was optimistically excited about a new generation of cars...but so far, they have lost me.
!st, no more NA engines, and now the fugly front end
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I am very pleased with the present, and not afraid of the future.
Mostly, though, I make sure to always let the opinions of internet forum-goers dictate my own preferences. Very important.
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Cool New BMW Commercial captures spirit of F30...nothing scary here...

My opinion might change when I have the opportunity to see a F30 in the wild but the F30 really appears to be only an evolutionary interpretation of a winning formula. IMO the F30 showcases BMW cues well, capturing the 3 series' spirit of athleticism. The F30 should provide a good platform for M magic.


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Ha this thread cracks me up. How many of you have seen the F30 in person? I have, it looks great. Much better than the E90. BMW isn't run by idiots, the F30 will sell like mad.
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