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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 08-24-2007, 07:35 AM
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Arrow DIY purge valve/fuel tank breather valve

if you get a 44 code SEL light, it is a bad valve, the valve location is deceiving in the realoem.com diagram. It takes fumes from the charcoal canister and upon start up takes those fumes and sends them to the intake manifold to be burned off in the cylinder.
Easy fix..dealer wanted $400 I did it in less than 2 hours CAR NEEDS TO BE COOL
Part $62
take bolts off of ATF reservoir and undo clamp that holds it into place
take out air box from MAF
Now you have easy access to the vlave which is directly behind the oil filter housing hanging under the intake manifold by a rubber mount
twist and disconnect line going to intake manifold
take out clip style gromut from the line going to charcoal canister and twist off
now reverse process for install
best of luck, these go bad eventuall because the dealer stated.."oh we got plenty of them here" so that tells me thay run into faulty valves
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:30 AM
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Thanks for the update Brian. Good easy fix.

You got pictures of the fix?
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:58 AM
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I can takes some pics afterwards and point out the areas in paint shop
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:22 AM
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My Land Rover Disco II is throwing the same code. According to the repair manual, it could be any part of that system.

So is it usually the valve? Maybe I'll just change it. It's just a $40 part.
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Thanks Brian--I cmae up with this in the search engine--http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226044&highlight=purge+valve
Would you perhaps know the part #--I'll be passing the BWM dealership tomorrow and pick one up.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:25 PM
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here is the part # for my car, could be different from yours but not likely
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...98&hg=13&fg=15
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Not to bring back from the dead, but I found this, thought it might help someone else out......

Thanks again Brain for the write up.....
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:57 PM
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Ooppss I meant Brian....sorry
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Question--back a few months ago I got the 440 code and repaired the 0 ring on my gas cap. Now I haven't had a code in months since doing the repair..now I'm finding my readiness monitors al all ready-except the emmisions system--would this be from a bad purge valve? Can this lead to a vacuum Leak--and can it take a tad off my fuel mileage?
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:33 PM
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would this also cause rough idle at start up.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:03 PM
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Hey there Poolman......as you probably know I have been battling this for a while, as this turned out to be my problem, (well I think my MAF is on it's way out), but overall it wouldn't be a bad idea to get it checked out, I found a Smog place to do a check on my air intake to see if I had any leaks (10 bucks), which I didn't, so I pin-pointed it to my Purge Valve.

You might lose a little bit of gas mileage if this is your problem, but don't expect a world of difference if it is. To be honest I started with my dealer for the part and they were in the ball park of everything I found on-line, so if you don't mind spending $70 bucks and an easy DIY, I would say go for it.

As far as rough idle at start up Lild, I would say no, but you might to check your hoses around it, and make sure there not pinched or anything else for that matter. I could be wrong though, in any case another thing to take a peek at and see if you notice anything.

I hope that helps.....
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:06 PM
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One more thing, when I did call the dealer, his answer was " Wow, we have plenty in stock ". Go figure, maybe this is something that goes bad quite often for our cars.
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i'll do that, at start it idle's a little rough, as if it isn't gettin enough gas. i hit the throtle a few times and it clears up. i've heard that the evap if bad could cause this.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:11 PM
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Have you checked your throttle body Lild? Maybe that's getting a tad stuck. Have you cleaned your ICV lately?
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:29 PM
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yeah i cleaned it last weekend,along with the maf. it does it mainly on cold mornings and sitting on a hill. it will only do it for 30-40 secs. thans clears up. i though it could have been the canister in the right side wheel well, between the the bumper and splash sheild. i can hear a loud noise there. but like i said it acts like it's not getting enough fuel. starts fine, just a little rough, i also thought it could be the fuel filter. i saw this thread and thought that this part could also be the problem. the only code i get is threshold be warm up catlist. other than the codes did the car act funny?
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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Do you have a CEL on? If your up to getting both purge valve and fuel filter, I would say do it, they are both fairly inexpensive and easy to replace.

I hate giving out advice when I don't know what it is, (I hate getting parts and it wasn't the solution), with that said, I think maybe one of the two might cure your problem.
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i feel the same way i hate buy parts i don't need and fixing stuff that doesn't need it, i need new o2 sensors, and waiting on them thinking they might be the problem, but just incase it's not, i'm looking at other otpions. the fuel filter will get changed also.
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Let me know how it turns out Lild...........
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:23 AM
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I would do a clean sweep of all your vacume lines and intake tract including the connections to the Purge Valve. Rough idle at start can also be crank case vent valve, which I heard is DIYer
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Thanks for the info rivercity--I'll be checking into whats going on--I don't haven't had a code in some time but the emmision system not being ready is pointing to some problem somewhere.
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Im experiencing the same problem. Would anyone have a write up or diagram an how i can DIY. Do you think this job can be done by an average person that doesnt really tinker with cars..?
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Fantastic! On a 2001 540, this takes 5 minutes. Nothing has to be removed to get to the valve - you just disconnect it and replace it. My hose clamps had a funny socket on them so I replaced those. I wanted to replace the plastic connector and the solenoid too, but those haven't come in the mail yet.
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Fantastic! On a 2001 540, this takes 5 minutes. Nothing has to be removed to get to the valve - you just disconnect it and replace it. My hose clamps had a funny socket on them so I replaced those. I wanted to replace the plastic connector and the solenoid too, but those haven't come in the mail yet.
jburnham, I'm trying to do mine on a 540 but the stupid hoses are like welded on to the nipples and won't budge. Also, are you supposed to push or pull off that plastic loop thing (clip)?
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jburnham, I'm trying to do mine on a 540 but the stupid hoses are like welded on to the nipples and won't budge. Also, are you supposed to push or pull off that plastic loop thing (clip)?
I couldn't figure it out the clip on the connector either. I started on the other end (hose connects directly to the valve) - I removed the hose clamp and used a flat screwdriver between the end of the hose and the valve to budge it just a little. I was then able to rotate it back and forth while pushing to get it off. Once that was off, I was able to swing the valve out and get a closer look at the connector. Squeezing it in pushes the tabs out and releases the connector.
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I couldn't figure it out the clip on the connector either. I started on the other end (hose connects directly to the valve) - I removed the hose clamp and used a flat screwdriver between the end of the hose and the valve to budge it just a little. I was then able to rotate it back and forth while pushing to get it off. Once that was off, I was able to swing the valve out and get a closer look at the connector. Squeezing it in pushes the tabs out and releases the connector.
Thanks, I figured out the clip and got the hose on the other end to come off with some force.
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