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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 12-31-2013, 06:45 AM
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*UPDATE* Am I crazy to consider buying a 2012 CPO X5 3.5i and keep it for 6 yrs?

As the title implies....am I nuts to consider buying a 2012 X5 3.5i with almost 50K miles on odo, with self leveling suspension...and keep it for the next 6 years?

What are the issues I should watch for in terms of longevity?

I've had my i6 530xi for 6 years but that's a NA engine derived from yrs of inline 6 evOlution...
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:02 AM
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I would try to find one with lower miles, but other than that I would say no, you are not carzy. Not sure how many miles six years will translate to for you, but I am planning on keeping my 2012 X5 35d (currently 19k miles) for ten years / 180-200k miles. Given that I've had previous BMW's go well into the mid 200k mile range, this should be no problem. It won't necessarily be cheap as I expect a couple of visits to my indy per year after the 100k milestone, but mine is paid for and this will work out to less than others pay each month for their lease.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:32 AM
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Not crazy at all. But as above Id want lower miles AND a 100k warranty to see me through the first few years.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:49 AM
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:53 AM
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Find one with lower miles and CPO.

No way I'd buy a 35i out of warranty and think that it would last me 6 years with minimal problems
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:05 PM
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Engine has been driven hard - 25,000 miles per year ??? WOW - what was it used for - cross country driving or taxi service ???
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:32 PM
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It's a CPO car, warranty good till Jan 2017 / remaining 50K miles. The thing is wife probably will drive this thing about 7K miles per year.
It was bought Jan 2012. It's not unusual around these parts for someone who commutes between CT and NY or CT and MA to rack those miles up....
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:04 PM
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It's a CPO car, warranty good till Jan 2017 / remaining 50K miles. The thing is wife probably will drive this thing about 7K miles per year.
It was bought Jan 2012. It's not unusual around these parts for someone who commutes between CT and NY or CT and MA to rack those miles up....
Doesn't sound crazy to me if the price is right. You have a few years of warranty to capture the big drivetrain "doomsday" stuff, and if you did a good job on your deal, a couple thousand now and again for the crap outside warranty coverage won't bother you so much.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:07 AM
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Doesn't sound crazy to me if the price is right. You have a few years of warranty to capture the big drivetrain "doomsday" stuff, and if you did a good job on your deal, a couple thousand now and again for the crap outside warranty coverage won't bother you so much.
Thanks. I pulled the trigger.
Drove up with a cashier's check with what I thought they would take for the car, traded in my old 530xi for a KBB "good" condition trade in, and 2 hrs later I drove home.

The CPO is actually good till DEC 2017, and apparently there are many new changes to the CPO program - mainly iDrive is covered....
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:20 AM
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Thanks. I pulled the trigger.
Drove up with a cashier's check with what I thought they would take for the car, traded in my old 530xi for a KBB "good" condition trade in, and 2 hrs later I drove home.

The CPO is actually good till DEC 2017, and apparently there are many new changes to the CPO program - mainly iDrive is covered....
Congrats! Sounds like you did well. If the CPO enrollment date was 2013, you would be under the old plan where NAV was not covered. Dealer should be able to tell you exactly if they haven't already.
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:19 AM
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Thanks. I pulled the trigger.
Drove up with a cashier's check with what I thought they would take for the car, traded in my old 530xi for a KBB "good" condition trade in, and 2 hrs later I drove home.

The CPO is actually good till DEC 2017, and apparently there are many new changes to the CPO program - mainly iDrive is covered....

I believe the new CPO is based on the date the car is retailed. So OP has a new CPO plan (not transferrable) if he closed after Jan 1, 2014. (The language is "an enrolled car retailed after...", so the controlling event is the retailing not the enrollment.)

Hope that sunroof never breaks!

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=744762

OP sounds like a long term owner though...transfer isnt going to be an issue I bet.

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Old 01-05-2014, 11:21 AM
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I believe the new CPO is based on the date the car is retailed. So OP has a new CPO plan (not transferrable) if he closed after Jan 1, 2014. (The language is "an enrolled car retailed after...", so the controlling event is the retailing not the enrollment.)
Good clarification; I agree - "retailed" should control.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:17 PM
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Thanks! loving it so far. It was actually a little more expensive than a new 2014 MDX with AWD and Tech Package.
The dealer let us keep the MDX for a couple of days convinced we'd be hooked - but man - the last time I owned a Honda was in 1994 and I was convinced they would have improved driving feel, ergonomics, and cabin richness....but that wasn't the case at all. It's like night and day - like bud light vs johnny walker black (not quite Blue label). The X5 just felt like a 'serious car' - the MDX - meh.

Car came with 3rd row, comfort access, active cruise, self leveling suspension, technology pkg, combo box, PDC etc. It's amazing!
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:22 PM
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Nice looking truck! Spare HPFP and waste gate in the back? Rail sensors?
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Thanks! loving it so far. It was actually a little more expensive than a new 2014 MDX with AWD and Tech Package.
The dealer let us keep the MDX for a couple of days convinced we'd be hooked - but man - the last time I owned a Honda was in 1994 and I was convinced they would have improved driving feel, ergonomics, and cabin richness....but that wasn't the case at all. It's like night and day - like bud light vs johnny walker black (not quite Blue label). The X5 just felt like a 'serious car' - the MDX - meh.
These types of comments are totally squashing my dream to be able to tolerate owning a reliable Japanese car!
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It was actually a little more expensive than a new 2014 MDX with AWD and Tech Package.
Yea, we were looking into the 2014 MDX as well. Our 2012 x5 CPO'd did cost the same as the MDX Elite, tech whatever. We went BMW



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Car came with 3rd row, comfort access, active cruise, self leveling suspension, technology pkg, combo box, PDC etc. It's amazing!
Tech Package? You don't have side view cameras though?!
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Side-view cameras were a separate option for a while, before being bundled.
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So CPO now covers iDrive? Why did I buy the Platinum Protection on my new vehicle? Should I cancel. Can I cancel? The Finance Manager said it wasn't covered, but I purchased in Early December.
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So CPO now covers iDrive? Why did I buy the Platinum Protection on my new vehicle? Should I cancel. Can I cancel? The Finance Manager said it wasn't covered, but I purchased in Early December.
Your Platinum still covers what it covered in early december.

If you read the posts on the new CPO it is new policies as of a specific PURCHASE date.

But please tell me you did NOT pay for a Platinum plan on a car that already has the CPO gold plan....
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Your Platinum still covers what it covered in early december.

If you read the posts on the new CPO it is new policies as of a specific PURCHASE date.

But please tell me you did NOT pay for a Platinum plan on a car that already has the CPO gold plan....
Right, I know Platinum has the same coverage, but it seems CPO covers as much as Platinum now?

No, I purchased the Vehicle new, so it just had Factory Warranty. ;
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Right, I know Platinum has the same coverage, but it seems CPO covers as much as Platinum now?

No, I purchased the Vehicle new, so it just had Factory Warranty. ;
Color me confused....

you asked "why did I buy platinum" and "should I cancel"

You cannot buy a cpo,,,cancelling the platinum would leave you without any warranty....
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Color me confused....

you asked "why did I buy platinum" and "should I cancel"

You cannot buy a cpo,,,cancelling the platinum would leave you without any warranty....
I meant, could I have the car CPO'd at the end of the Factory Warranty? If so, and it's less expensive, what's the advantage of EVP?
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I meant, could I have the car CPO'd at the end of the Factory Warranty? If so, and it's less expensive, what's the advantage of EVP?
Only if you sell to a dealer and buy back. The CPO warranty covers less than the Platinum.


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