bmw F30 prices deceptive.

when you goto BMWUSA.com and look at the MSRP for 2012 bmw 335 . it says $42400. however as soon as you hit build to customize the car. it immediately Jumps to nearly 45k, THAT is without you having done anything. SO really they should just list the base 335i car as 45k instead of 42400

Here in Canada, it starts at 51200$ so....

Originally Posted by caliber

when you goto BMWUSA.com and look at the MSRP for 2012 bmw 335 . it says $42400. however as soon as you hit build to customize the car. it immediately Jumps to nearly 45k, THAT is without you having done anything. SO really they should just list the base 335i car as 45k instead of 42400

yep, it's a sham. They raised the prices considerably but really did not offer anything that is a vast improvement over the e90. The addition of start/stop and bluetooth hardly qualifies for the sizable price bump.

You don't seem to be all that deceived.

Let me rephrase BMW with this new f30 building process isnt running well with BMW drivers here in Tx basically they r telling u now u can only have ur bmw 3 different ways even though ur throwing down$50k hope thats better

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It's only deceptive in that the default color on the website adds packages like a line, that adds to the base price. You can change to a non line color and price will not change. The problem is that BMW ties certain colors to certain lines.

Originally Posted by BigDadyCool

Yea bmw is full of **** with this f30 building process u can stick all ur 3 likes up ur ass

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Settle down dude.

Originally Posted by BigDadyCool

Yea bmw is full of **** with this f30 building process u can stick all ur 3 likes up ur ass

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chill out, its just a internet app.

Sorry but meant 4 bmw to stick all 3 lines up their behind lol not u readers

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Originally Posted by BigDadyCool

Sorry but meant 4 bmw to stick all 3 lines up their behind lol not u readers

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That's not better. Please try to be constructive in your posts.

Originally Posted by caliber

when you goto BMWUSA.com and look at the MSRP for 2012 bmw 335 . it says $42400. however as soon as you hit build to customize the car. it immediately Jumps to nearly 45k, THAT is without you having done anything. SO really they should just list the base 335i car as 45k instead of 42400

Get rid of the leather and the metallic paint. MSRP should be 42,400. The 45k includes leather and metallic paint added to the base MSRP.

Originally Posted by raleedy

You don't seem to be all that deceived.

Yes, it looks like prices are going to increase sharply.

actually the you get more for the price, i configured the 2013 compared to what i paid for my 2011, i will more options for the money. some options might be higher priced.

Originally Posted by boostedX5SAV

Get rid of the leather and the metallic paint. MSRP should be 42,400. The 45k includes leather and metallic paint added to the base MSRP.

you should double check that,t he price of 45k is with LEATHERETTE, with leather the price jumps to 46k

Originally Posted by caliber

you should double check that,t he price of 45k is with LEATHERETTE, with leather the price jumps to 46k

I did. You probably choose one of the three lines that BMW added (ie. Sports, Luxury, Modern). The absolute base is 42,400.

ok, i got the samething you got by switching to "standard" 335i, however, where is the extra 1000 dollars charge coming from after you unchecked metallic paint and leather?

nevermind. its destination and handling.

I recently "built" on line a nicely equipped (not fully loaded - not even nav) 328i and it came to nearly $50,000. That's a lot of $$$ for a 2wd fairly small turbo. I like BMW a lot, but I am also thinking about a bit larger car and will look at the Infiniti M37 and the new GS350, both priced nicely equipped in the low 50s...... I've test driven a 2011 535i with 1,000 miles on the odo...but I was disappointed in the test model....did not seem to track very well and hesitated when starting from a stop. Perhaps those issues have been resolved in the 2012 MY, but I would expect more for a $60,000 car. The gas mileage of the BMW and free service are appealing, but only save about $3,000 over a three year period compared to the larger competition. We'll see.

To give you some idea of how much prices have increased since the 2007 335i, my current car (configuration in my sig) had an MSRP of about $45755 (I did Euro Delivery and saved about $3700 off of that).

Configuring a 2012 335i similarly results in an MSRP of $52670, roughly a $7000 increase. For that I get HUD as a mandatory option with the NAV, but other than that there aren't that many improvements other than making the car bigger, slightly lighter and I guess slightly more fuel efficient. I'm sure there are intangibles (better ride quality, etc) but from a value proposition it's hard to believe that the F30 is $7000 better than an E90 from 5 years ago and even with Euro delivery it's still a pretty expensive car. The 328i is a non-starter for me until I drive it - I just can't imagine spending that kind of money on a 4 cylinder engine without doing some serious cross-shopping with other cars.

Originally Posted by Financeman

I recently "built" on line a nicely equipped (not fully loaded - not even nav) 328i and it came to nearly $50,000. That's a lot of $$$ for a 2wd fairly small turbo. I like BMW a lot, but I am also thinking about a bit larger car and will look at the Infiniti M37 and the new GS350, both priced nicely equipped in the low 50s...... I've test driven a 2011 535i with 1,000 miles on the odo...but I was disappointed in the test model....did not seem to track very well and hesitated when starting from a stop. Perhaps those issues have been resolved in the 2012 MY, but I would expect more for a $60,000 car. The gas mileage of the BMW and free service are appealing, but only save about $3,000 over a three year period compared to the larger competition. We'll see.

But you can easily get a decently equipped 328i with a line and ZPP for closer to $40K which is how most will order them. I'd guess the average price for an F30 328i will be in the low $40K range. My 2011 e90 328 retailed for under $37K with leather (value package), heated seats, metallic paint and power rear shade.

Originally Posted by johnc_22

To give you some idea of how much prices have increased since the 2007 335i, my current car (configuration in my sig) had an MSRP of about $45755 (I did Euro Delivery and saved about $3700 off of that).

Configuring a 2012 335i similarly results in an MSRP of $52670, roughly a $7000 increase. For that I get HUD as a mandatory option with the NAV, but other than that there aren't that many improvements other than making the car bigger, slightly lighter and I guess slightly more fuel efficient. I'm sure there are intangibles (better ride quality, etc) but from a value proposition it's hard to believe that the F30 is $7000 better than an E90 from 5 years ago and even with Euro delivery it's still a pretty expensive car. The 328i is a non-starter for me until I drive it - I just can't imagine spending that kind of money on a 4 cylinder engine without doing some serious cross-shopping with other cars.

Also get automatic transmission standard.

Originally Posted by mr_clueless

Also get automatic transmission standard.

True - I think that was a pretty pricy option on the E90 335i, so in other words those who get 6MT are subsidizing those who go for the slush box, which I will probably have in my next car assuming I stay in the traffic hell that is Atlanta.

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

But you can easily get a decently equipped 328i with a line and ZPP for closer to $40K which is how most will order them. I'd guess the average price for an F30 328i will be in the low $40K range. My 2011 e90 328 retailed for under $37K with leather (value package), heated seats, metallic paint and power rear shade.

You like the rear power shade? Experience and/or opinions about it? Does it help when parking outside in a hot summer?

- Henrik

Originally Posted by henrikk

You like the rear power shade? Experience and/or opinions about it? Does it help when parking outside in a hot summer?

- Henrik

Yes I do. I bought it mainly because we have a toddler in the back seat in a rear facing seat (for now) and when the sun shines through the back window the shade is very helpful. In the hot summer is works as well although at work my car is parked facing south so the shade does not come into play.

I also have the retractable shades on the rear doors and they are nice as well.

Originally Posted by johnc_22

To give you some idea of how much prices have increased since the 2007 335i, my current car (configuration in my sig) had an MSRP of about $45755 (I did Euro Delivery and saved about $3700 off of that).

Configuring a 2012 335i similarly results in an MSRP of $52670, roughly a $7000 increase. For that I get HUD as a mandatory option with the NAV, but other than that there aren't that many improvements other than making the car bigger, slightly lighter and I guess slightly more fuel efficient. I'm sure there are intangibles (better ride quality, etc) but from a value proposition it's hard to believe that the F30 is $7000 better than an E90 from 5 years ago and even with Euro delivery it's still a pretty expensive car. The 328i is a non-starter for me until I drive it - I just can't imagine spending that kind of money on a 4 cylinder engine without doing some serious cross-shopping with other cars.

Don't buy the 4 bangor...it's not a real BMW.
I think I will take my M3 off the road at 2500 mi., it will be worth a fortune in about 10 yrs. at Barrett-Jackson as it will be the last REAL M car, and oh that NA V8 is just magical

Originally Posted by 16n69

Don't buy the 4 bangor...it's not a real BMW.

So, the BMW 2002 was not a real BMW?

I don't have a problem with the number of cylinders, just the number of dollars they want for it. I've had SAAB with turbo 4's that were a blast to drive so that doesn't worry me too much, I just don't want to pay more for it than I paid for my 335i just 5 years ago (assuming similar options).