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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 01-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Exclamation 62% Base Residual for F30!!! *GRIN*

I just knew they would do this... That's 65% for 10k mi/yr. Strong. Much better than when E90 debuted. ALG must have loved the F30...



These launch residuals are higher than the initial ones on the E90 when it debuted during the spring of 2005. This is a testament to the strength of the 2012 3 Series sedan and exhibits an underlying confidence in both its substance and value proposition.



P.S. I have a couple of open allocations waiting for your name on them.

You can get my patented "Internet Special" pricing on the F30 328i (sorry, no 335i).

Be aware that there is currently a hold on F30 (CARB/EPA), but I suspect this will be resolved in time for the launch...

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Old 01-12-2012, 04:24 PM
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I just knew they would do this... That's 65% for 10k mi/yr. Strong. Much mo' bettah than when E90 debuted. ALG must have loved the F30...



P.S. I have a couple of open allocations waiting for your name on them.

You can get my patented "Internet Special" pricing on the F30 328i (sorry, no 335i).

Be aware that there is currently a hold on F30 (CARB/EPA), but I suspect this will be resolved in time for the launch...

I have always purchased...not leased, I assume what you are talking about is lease "lingo"?
Can you explain in lay terms, just how that works, what does it mean, or how this breaks down?
thanks
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:34 PM
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I have always purchased...not leased, I assume what you are talking about is lease "lingo"?
Can you explain in lay terms, just how that works, what does it mean, or how this breaks down?
thanks
A residual is the estimated value of a vehicle after the end of the lease. Thus a 65% residual means you can purchase the vehicle at 65% of it's original value at the end of the lease. The higher the residual the lower your lease payment as you're only paying for the depreciation (35% in this case).

The 10K miles / year is the average number of miles you're allowed on the vehicle each year over the term of the lease in order to maintain the residual.

This is a rough description. Plenty of information regarding leasing is available on the Internet.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:42 PM
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what!!!! where did you see this...that would mean 328i f3o with 10k miles is 65% residual...please confirm!!!
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Holly Macro. That means our lease payment will be VEEEEERY LOOOOW! I guess this is BMW marketing tool to get as many cars out on the street as possible. I can't stop dancing.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:47 PM
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This is great news!!!!! i hope its true

Hey jon, any idea what the money factor would be, also we should expect leases in the 400 range prob, this is just fantastic news

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I just knew they would do this... That's 65% for 10k mi/yr. Strong. Much mo' bettah than when E90 debuted. ALG must have loved the F30...



P.S. I have a couple of open allocations waiting for your name on them.

You can get my patented "Internet Special" pricing on the F30 328i (sorry, no 335i).

Be aware that there is currently a hold on F30 (CARB/EPA), but I suspect this will be resolved in time for the launch...

$10 says the money factor is probably inflated above the .00195 on other models though....
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IMO, people who drive 10K/yr miles are a minority.
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Wow. Mix that with MSDs and ED and that'd make for some insanely low payments.
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$10 says the money factor is probably inflated above the .00195 on other models though....
Yea, im guess money factor is right around 5% Maybe 4%
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What are you talking about RED LINED?
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IMO, people who drive 10K/yr miles are a minority.
You can always buy more miles.

FWIW, I can't see putting 10k a year on my car starting March or so as my commute round trip will be less than 12 miles.
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What are you talking about RED LINED?
I'm not fully sure what you mean, but this is a common marketing technique for entry level luxury cars. There are 2 sides to every lease equation: money factor and residual. They let one slide and nail you on the other.

Look at the newly introduced C250 coupe from Benz. High residuals. The public sees this, and look at that 66% residual. The money factor is grossly inflated though. I have a strong feeling BMW will pull the something here.

Just a guess though
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I'm not fully sure what you mean, but this is a common marketing technique for entry level luxury cars. There are 2 sides to every lease equation: money factor and residual. They let one slide and nail you on the other.

Look at the newly introduced C250 coupe from Benz. High residuals. The public sees this, and look at that 66% residual. The money factor is grossly inflated though. I have a strong feeling BMW will pull the something here.

Just a guess though
Most likely. If i had extra case laying around, it wouldnt be such an issue becuase i could have done the MSD, but we will just have too see what the money factor is. I can see it 4.5-5.0%
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Awesome residual! Now show me the Money (Factor).
Hope it's standard rate and I am in.

I assume same residual for 328 and 335 (even though 335 availability may be tight for a while as Jon's post suggests)
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Thanks for the info, but this only half of the equation. High residuals are basically meaningless if the MF is 0.00225 or something ridiculous like that. All it means is I certainly won't be taking the buy option at lease end.

I'll be watching ridewithg like a hawk unless someone is kind enough to post the money factor.
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im calling it, money factor will be between .00180-.00215

prob right around .002
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$10 says the money factor is probably inflated above the .00195 on other models though....
You owe me ten bucks!!



And for you 328i prospects out there, this combined with a hefty discount, the payments will be even lower...




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And for you 328i prospects out there, this combined with a hefty discount, the payments will be even lower...




Any idea what the money factor will be jon?
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So, still standard 0.00195?
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So, still standard 0.00195?

Sounds good to me.....


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And for you 328i prospects out there, this combined with a hefty discount, the payments will be even lower...
Plugging numbers in my lease calculation spreadsheet.
May not be able to wait for 2013 model and M-Sport.
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Also plugging numbers in my lease spreadsheet....I wish the configurator was available!
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Here are the rest: 24/30/36/42/48/54/60 %Base

328i: 68 / 65 / 62 / 53 / 45 / 41 / 36
335i: 68 / 65 / 62 / 53 / 45 / 41 / 37


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