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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 02-05-2012, 09:58 AM
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:43 AM
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With the Adaptive M Suspension, it rides tight. However, it handles sharp impacts very, very well. We have a place where the city workers have "patched" the street over a thin pipe. The asphalt is raised abruptly about two inches... and most cars "bang" over it. The F30 with Adaptive M Suspension sucks it up incredibly well.

There is a big difference between SPORT and COMFORT. It defaults to COMFORT when you start the car, but you can select SPORT immediately. Truth is COMFORT is a great all-around setting while SPORT is a bit harsh.


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So there is a separate setting for Sport/Comfort specifically for the suspension, as opposed to the settings next to the transmission (economy plus/sport etc)? Or is it all the same thing?
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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From the photos it looks like there is a cover over the cupholders and then another compartment with a hinged door above the cupholders. Then there is what looks like yet another compartment cover just below the radio.

If the F30 you're driving is the final US configuration, how are the compartments set up? Is that compartment below the radio an ashtray and the one below it covered storage?

I'm asking because I usually install the controls and displays for the V-1 etc. in my car's console. Does it look like a V-1 remote will fit in one of those compartments?
The F30's I saw at the NAIAS had uncovered cup holders and a covered storage department further forward.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:41 PM
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However there is definitely a ring of truth that its 0-60mph in 5.6-5.9 is misleading and achieved only with abuse (as they all are). But specially with small turbo engines.
Probably true for MT. But AT? I doubt that it's abuse.

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:10 PM
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How does the new 328i compare to an E46 ZHP?
I asked the same thing. I never found a non-M e90 that could be as rewarding to drive/own as an e46 ZHP.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:59 PM
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Probably true for MT. But AT? I doubt that it's abuse.
Do you start 0-60mph often by releasing brakes while keeping RPM at 1500-2000rpm? That's the way they get the best time possible. Nobody is doing this on a regular basis.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:27 PM
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Do you start 0-60mph often by releasing brakes while keeping RPM at 1500-2000rpm? That's the way they get the best time possible. Nobody is doing this on a regular basis.
Fine, but the question was whether this represents abuse. It doesn't seem so to me. Not like dumping the clutch at 4-5krpm.
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Well I drove a X1 N20 last spring and I will reserve the "very quick" attribute to the 335i.
Anything <6.0 seconds is "very quick" in my book.

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Does it mean that you would prefer the F30 328i with the 2 liter TFSI engine over the N20?
No, very different powerplants. I like the smooth(er) TFSI in my Audi, but I never drive it in anger. The N20 seems to be tuned more for performance than for smoothness.

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Old 02-05-2012, 07:42 PM
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So there is a separate setting for Sport/Comfort specifically for the suspension, as opposed to the settings next to the transmission (economy plus/sport etc)? Or is it all the same thing?
I've got a manual transmission, so I choose my own gears.

Regardless, there is a rocker for SPORT, COMFORT or ECONOMY to the left of the shifter. Switching to SPORT alters steering, throttle and suspension response. Unfortunately, I like SPORT steering and SPORT throttle, but COMFORT suspension... a setting which is impossible to configure!

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The F30's I saw at the NAIAS had uncovered cup holders and a covered storage department further forward.
I just found a cover for the cupholders in the glove box. Weird configuration.

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Old 02-06-2012, 07:45 AM
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I just found a cover for the cupholders in the glove box. Weird configuration.

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Thanks Mike. I just read in the digital 3 series brochure that this is normal and how the car will be delivered.
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Regardless, there is a rocker for SPORT, COMFORT or ECONOMY to the left of the shifter. Switching to SPORT alters steering, throttle and suspension response. Unfortunately, I like SPORT steering and SPORT throttle, but COMFORT suspension... a setting which is impossible to configure!
FYI, the passive Sport Suspension is supposed to be a little softer that Sport Mode of the Adaptive version since that is what those owners have to live with all the time.
Above comment suggests some folks may prefer the passive suspension since it allows more agressive steering & throttle independent of suspension.

It would be nice if there were knobs for all of these you could adjust under iDrive control to fine tune each mode.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:55 AM
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FYI, the passive Sport Suspension is supposed to be a little softer that Sport Mode of the Adaptive version since that is what those owners have to live with all the time.
Above comment suggests some folks may prefer the passive suspension since it allows more agressive steering & throttle independent of suspension.
Is the comfort mode of the suspension as comfortable/soft as the non-sport suspension?
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FYI, the passive Sport Suspension is supposed to be a little softer that Sport Mode of the Adaptive version since that is what those owners have to live with all the time.
Above comment suggests some folks may prefer the passive suspension since it allows more agressive steering & throttle independent of suspension.

It would be nice if there were knobs for all of these you could adjust under iDrive control to fine tune each mode.
That makes sense. Yeah, it would be very nice to have individual control.

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Is the comfort mode of the suspension as comfortable/soft as the non-sport suspension?
I would think it is more comfortable, as it is adjustable.

For $900, it is a no-brainer.

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That makes sense. Yeah, it would be very nice to have individual control.



I would think it is more comfortable, as it is adjustable.

For $900, it is a no-brainer.

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How adjustable is the suspension? Are there just 2 setting, comfort and sport? Or can you adjust the suspension to what you like regardless of driving mode.?
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How adjustable is the suspension? Are there just 2 setting, comfort and sport? Or can you adjust the suspension to what you like regardless of driving mode.?
I only see SPORT, COMFORT or ECONOMY (they call it something else).

Like I said, I hate the COMFORT throttle responses, but I don't like the SPORT suspension for everyday driving.

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I only see SPORT, COMFORT or ECONOMY (they call it something else).

Like I said, I hate the COMFORT throttle responses, but I don't like the SPORT suspension for everyday driving.

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Interesting, thanks. Have you have a chance to drive a sportline with regular sport suspension?
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I only see SPORT, COMFORT or ECONOMY (they call it something else).
I thought there were supposed to be 4 settings -- sport+, sport, comfort, eco pro.
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Interesting, thanks. Have you have a chance to drive a sportline with regular sport suspension?
I am not sure (I drove about a dozen back-to-back, but it was unclear what options were on each).

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I thought there were supposed to be 4 settings -- sport+, sport, comfort, eco pro.
Yeah, let me take a quick pic...

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From my understanding the only difference between sport and sport+ is sport+ disables stability control a little
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Yes, there are four settings (sport+, sport, comfort, eco pro).

But the button defaults to "COMFORT" (in the middle).

Rock it forward for "SPORT" and rock it forward again for "SPORT+" (two quick taps). Or, rock it rearward for "ECO PRO." All settings are visible on the dashboard.

Here is a pic I just took.

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From my understanding the only difference between sport and sport+ is sport+ disables stability control a little
Yes, "a little" is the key word. You can't get the car sideways.

While on Laguna Seca, I used SPORT+ with DSC on.

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That makes sense. Yeah, it would be very nice to have individual control.

I would think it is more comfortable, as it is adjustable.

For $900, it is a no-brainer.

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A no brainer to get it or to not get it?
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A no brainer to get it or to not get it?
Get it, as it really changes the driving dynamics.

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