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Old 02-03-2012, 10:38 AM
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I love my BMW. I HATE the NAV!!

So does anyone at BMW actually care about this?

I program in an address which happens to be a common street name (Chestnut Street), and the NAV begins routing me to the address in a completely different town 10 miles away.

I called BMW and they said they couldn't do anything about it. No recourse, no clue about if/when they can fix that - nothing.

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Old 02-03-2012, 11:23 AM
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:00 PM
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So does anyone at BMW actually care about this?

I program in an address which happens to be a common street name (Chestnut Street), and the NAV begins routing me to the address in a completely different town 10 miles away.

I called BMW and they said they couldn't do anything about it. No recourse, no clue about if/when they can fix that - nothing.

Sorry for the vent...
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Venting is allowed. Even if the GPS is "free", you expect the thing to perform basic functions.

Not surprised that BMW couldn't/wouldn't help you. Sales are up, life is good - so quit your bitchin' Just like the horrible Goodyear run flat tires they force on us.

IMHO - BMW (and most car companies) should get out of the NAV business - let Garmin or TOMTOM provide a common module that can be easily upgraded (well, it's a good thought). By the time any car is designed and on the market, the technology is 2 or 3 gnerations behind. Not to mention the cost difference....

Didn't get NAV when I odered my car, on my 2nd generation of Garmin GPS - I spent the $2K I saved on Dinan S2 upgrade instead...way better investment
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:23 PM
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Not another nav trashing thread. It works fine in Toronto area.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:27 PM
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Not another nav trashing thread. It works fine in Toronto area.
The NAV is trash ..... we can't all be lucky enough to live in Toronto .... eh?
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:39 PM
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All nav systems pose issues for some people.

Not all people encounter nav system issues.

You will only see posts of a very small minority complaining.

Nav systems work fine for most people.

I suspect most folks having issues just need to take the time to figure out what they are doing wrong instead of pissing in the wind.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:41 PM
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I know it's nowhere near perfect but to call it a complete trash? Maybe maps in your area need some serious work? How is that possible?
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So does anyone at BMW actually care about this?

I program in an address which happens to be a common street name (Chestnut Street), and the NAV begins routing me to the address in a completely different town 10 miles away.

I called BMW and they said they couldn't do anything about it. No recourse, no clue about if/when they can fix that - nothing.

Sorry for the vent...
You're supposed to enter the state first, then city/town, then street name. If you follow this procedure, the nav will only find the correct street name in the target city or town. Most nav works this way.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:48 PM
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With all respect for your opinion, those who have had previous NavTeq based BMW NAV systems have been let down by the switch to the current TeleAtlas HD based application.

It is something BMW did very well early on (at least back to my 2001 widescreen) but is now a big step back having switched to the inferior TeleAtlas maps.

Easy to search on multiple forums here as to why it is so egregious.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:52 PM
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With all respect for your opinion, those who have had previous NavTeq based BMW NAV systems have been let down by the switch to the current TeleAtlas HD based application.

It is something BMW did very well early on (at least back to my 2001 widescreen) but is now a big step back having switched to the inferior TeleAtlas maps.

Easy to search on multiple forums here as to why it is so egregious.
OK, but he's talking about finding the street in the wrong town. My guess is he entered the street name first. We just bought our 4th Acura, first with Navigation, and the instructions state to enter the state first, then city, then street name as well. Now if he followed this procedure and the street showed up in the wrong town, then yes, it's probably an issue. Need to confirm though first.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:04 PM
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Mine sucks too -- I've had the same problem (and I've tried all permutations of street first, city first, state first, etc.) I've had such a negative experience with it, that I either print out Google maps before I get in the car, or I borrow my wife's Accord with NAV that has never once given issue. The BMW NAV is terrible in comparison in my major metropolitan area.
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With all respect for your opinion, those who have had previous NavTeq based BMW NAV systems have been let down by the switch to the current TeleAtlas HD based application.

It is something BMW did very well early on (at least back to my 2001 widescreen) but is now a big step back having switched to the inferior TeleAtlas maps.

Easy to search on multiple forums here as to why it is so egregious.
I have not been let down so stop the rhetoric. It is unfounded and quite inaccurate.
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:12 PM
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You're supposed to enter the state first, then city/town, then street name. If you follow this procedure, the nav will only find the correct street name in the target city or town. Most nav works this way.
The biggest problem with the Nav is not its inability to find a location but the bizarre routing it plots to that location. It frequently goes off in the wrong direction, circular routes, turns one way and then calls for a u-turn and other weird maneuvers. I have nearly always been able to enter the correct address but even on some very simple routes it will double or triple the miles to arrive at the destination. Most Nav systems do not work that way.

The maps in my area are fine. The calculations of routes are not.

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Old 02-03-2012, 06:15 PM
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I have not been let down so stop the rhetoric. It is unfounded and quite inaccurate.
Chuck, it is founded and accurate based on my having owned now 6 B'mers over the past 10 years, with NAV that was functional and reliable previously.

The point is BMW nailed the NAV early on and now has regressed to an inferior system that has obvious flaws rendering it not "mission critical".

It's pretty but it can't be relied on to get me where I need to go.
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The biggest problem with the Nav is not its inability to find a location but the bizarre routing it plots to that location. It frequently goes off in the wrong direction, circular routes, turns one way and then calls for a u-turn and other weird maneuvers. I have nearly always been able to enter the correct address but even on some very simple routes it will double or triple the miles to arrive at the destination. Most Nav systems do not work that way.

The maps in my area are fine. The calculations of routes are not.
OK, but that's not what the OP was complaining about, unless he meant it actually routed him to the wrong town. We always disintegrate into a general dislike for the Nav. I'm just trying to find out how he entered the address and if it's a "real" problem or user error.
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I have not been let down so stop the rhetoric. It is unfounded and quite inaccurate.
No, actually, it's neither unfounded nor inaccurate.
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I LOVE the BMW nav.

Just the fact that it allows me to enter address while driving is already miles above other car makers.

Also it has never failed me.
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Chuck, it is founded and accurate based on my having owned now 6 B'mers over the past 10 years, with NAV that was functional and reliable previously.

The point is BMW nailed the NAV early on and now has regressed to an inferior system that has obvious flaws rendering it not "mission critical".

It's pretty but it can't be relied on to get me where I need to go.
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So does anyone at BMW actually care about this?

I program in an address which happens to be a common street name (Chestnut Street), and the NAV begins routing me to the address in a completely different town 10 miles away.

I called BMW and they said they couldn't do anything about it. No recourse, no clue about if/when they can fix that - nothing.

Sorry for the vent...
Hold on. You input the specific city-town you have the exact name and it goes to a different city??
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Mine sucks too -- I've had the same problem (and I've tried all permutations of street first, city first, state first, etc.) I've had such a negative experience with it, that I either print out Google maps before I get in the car, or I borrow my wife's Accord with NAV that has never once given issue. The BMW NAV is terrible in comparison in my major metropolitan area.
Print maps???? Lol. Talking about regression. Have you considered Rand McNally road atlas? :-)

You need to try Send to car from Google Maps.
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I LOVE the BMW nav.

Just the fact that it allows me to enter address while driving is already miles above other car makers.

Also it has never failed me.
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This NAV is a huge improvement over my MB NAV systems. I may not agree with any particular route, but it's never failed to get me where I needed to go. I've had issues with Google Maps and Topo USA map errors, so I've yet to see a perfect mapping program.
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Bull
Bull what, that it doesn't have problems?

I've had my Nav refuse to find an address because I didn't enter the correct town....even though the town it has the destination is does not exist. It's a location, not a town (Baileys Crossroads, VA).

I've had it tell me to get off a highway onto a local road southbound, then make a u-turn northbound...when there was a northbound exit.

I've had the nav flat out refuse to take some roads, even when I've entered a destination on them manually.

I've had the nav try to have me exit the highway about two exits before mine, and take back roads all the way around where I need to go....when simply taking my exit gives me a straight shot home.

The nav in this car really sucks...and I live in the capital of the country.....
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Bull what, that it doesn't have problems?

I've had my Nav refuse to find an address because I didn't enter the correct town....even though the town it has the destination is does not exist. It's a location, not a town (Baileys Crossroads, VA).

I've had it tell me to get off a highway onto a local road southbound, then make a u-turn northbound...when there was a northbound exit.

I've had the nav flat out refuse to take some roads, even when I've entered a destination on them manually.

I've had the nav try to have me exit the highway about two exits before mine, and take back roads all the way around where I need to go....when simply taking my exit gives me a straight shot home.

The nav in this car really sucks...and I live in the capital of the country.....
Can't say I've had any of these problems, although I don't really understand what you mean in paragraph 2; then again, I don't drive while I'm drinking.
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Hold on. You input the specific city-town you have the exact name and it goes to a different city??
YUP. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. Shockingly awful, I agree.
See my original thread here - NAV sucks

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