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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 06-07-2014, 10:47 PM
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:49 AM
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Old 06-08-2014, 11:31 AM
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I had a minivan when my sons were young.
In my current world, I don't care if it might be safer. The fun factor is in first place now.


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Ask a minivan driver to collide into your BMW. Then report the results here.
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:32 AM
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Mr. Beden, rollin' with family/friends. Fills in some blanks BMW's not able to - does complementary pretty well.
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The 2014 Honda Odyssey was just named a Top Safety Pick+ by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). It is the first minivan to earn that award.

According to Bloomberg, the Honda Odyssey had previously failed the small overlap front crash test. While the test was being developed, Honda sent a 2012 Odyssey to be crash tested. It did not do well. If the test had been official, the 2012 Odyssey would have scored a Poor. In order to perform better on the test, Honda added higher-strength steel to the Odyssey's frame, as well as new side-curtain air bags.

Maybe this one is finally getting high safety marks, but back when my kids were young, minivans were pretty much considered to be death traps. Regardless, and personally, I would rather walk than to be seen driving any minivan.
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Beden1, I have my Bimmer when I need style, but after doing pickups, SUV ' s, large sedans, etc., this is by far my favorite utility vehicle. When we take the Labrador with us I just fold the third row. Disneyland trips with the grandkids are a snap. Want to haul something large? Fold 3rd row down, remove 2nd row, and it's a cargo van!
It's so practical, and yet luxurious, that you soon get over the whole stigma.
I suppose where one lives can have a bearing though, as these vans are about as popular as SUV's here, so no one cares!

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Beden1, I have my Bimmer when I need style, but after doing pickups, SUV ' s, large sedans, etc., this is by far my favorite utility vehicle. When we take the Labrador with us I just fold the third row. Disneyland trips with the grandkids are a snap. Want to haul something large? Fold 3rd row down, remove 2nd row, and it's a cargo van!
It's so practical, and yet luxurious, that you soon get over the whole stigma.
I suppose where one lives can have a bearing though, as these vans are about as popular as SUV's here, so no one cares!

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Our loaded LTZ Tahoe and Suburban do pretty much the same thing as you describe except for the third row not folding flat like they do now with the 2015 models. But, they are selectable 2WD, AWD and 4WD as opposed to many minivans that are front wheel drive, and because our SUVs are built on truck frames, they are built like brick S houses by comparison.

You bring up a good point about where you live. There are many social norms that are unique to CA that are not as prevalent here on the East Coast. This weekend, I was driving past a local Little League baseball field where my son used to play, and was amazed to see so many SUVs as opposed to cars or minivans. There were about 60+ vehicles parked alongside this road where I had to stop at the light, and I saw only 4-5 non SUVs. I was thinking at the time that it didn't make sense because of the high price of fuel, but the full size SUV is definitely the family vehicle of choice in my area.

If minivans are so great, then why are most people around here driving SUVs? I recently read that Chrysler was going to stop producing their minivan.
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A minivan makes far more sense than a full sized sedan, due to far more versatility, but like station wagons, there is that stigma. SUV's are a different animal. They serve a purpose that a car (and I consider a minivan to be more car) cannot fulfill. Most people that own them however never use them for their intended purpose, (I also see a lot of Corvettes driven like a Prius!) I believe people should drive whatever makes them happy!

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I don't think style or driving satisfaction are on the list! But my wife loves hers. She also loves my BMW, so we have the best of both worlds. Deciding which one to take usually involves determining if we want to be stealth (minivan attracts no attention), or do we want to have a little fun.
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A real man always uses the proper tool for the job at hand. For hauling kids around, the proper tool is a minivan. That's not to say you can't haul kids in other vehicles, but nothing does it as safely, comfortably, efficiently, and conveniently as a minivan.

Those of us that are married to non-enthusiast drivers get the best of both worlds; we get to drive a sporty car, but we can foist the practical vehicles on our spouse.
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A real man always uses the proper tool for the job at hand. For hauling kids around, the proper tool is a minivan. That's not to say you can't haul kids in other vehicles, but nothing does it as safely, comfortably, efficiently, and conveniently as a minivan.

Those of us that are married to non-enthusiast drivers get the best of both worlds; we get to drive a sporty car, but we can foist the practical vehicles on our spouse.

Y'know, for some reason, I don't take my Bimmer to Costco or anywhere else cargo's involved.

Gravitate to Odyssey. No idea why.

Then again, for van bustin' loads, Superduty.
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Y'know, for some reason, I don't take my Bimmer to Costco or anywhere else cargo's involved.

Gravitate to Odyssey. No idea why.

Then again, for van bustin' loads, Superduty.
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