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Old 04-02-2012, 11:26 AM
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SUCCESS!!!!

I got lucky in one way. Even though I had prepped for the job by breaking down the 54-pin plug in inticipation of the wiring mod. Well to my great surprise my old TCU had the 54-pin connection and the MOST connector didn't need any adapter since it wasn't sharing a connector with the 12-pin. I was kind of nervouse because I wasnt sure if the pin connections were the same (thought they should be). The outside casing had to be switched with the one from the new TCU even though the looked the same.

I had coded the MMI days ago in perpetration, and after deleting the previously paired phones I was able to pair my iPhone (took 3 attempts. Had to get close to the trunk). People are telling me how clear it sounds and I know it sounds better than the BTUM CPT9000 that I had.

One odd thing is I am unable to connect to the TCU with INPA or NCS Expert. With NCS I have tied many production dates, and I get some to go through 0606 for example. Then when I try reading the TCUM module I get a COAPPI 2000 error. I would like to be able to read my TCU, but glad everything else is working. I tested everything possible and it all works. Since I never had to re-route wires to different pins like most others I should be ok.

Not sure if I should remove the phone/BTUM tray inside my center console or not. Not sure what to replace that space with. Mabye they make an Oddments tray for the center console for the right side (US).

Just wanted to thank Ace, Stuart, and Paper for their hard work and help.

Just for the record:

1. I never had to add $633 or $639 to my VO (doesn't mean you won't)
2. Didn't have to make any changes on my TCU (can't connect right now anyway).
3. Needed to be close to the TCU initially to pair.

Having 2 small issues that are unrelated to this retrofit since the problems pre-existed the TCU retrofit.

1. Auto P works, but can't select it in I drive menu, and doesn't work if I program function on steering wheel.

2. iPod. Even though I added +IPOD to my VO, I can't find iPod_List in my MMI. Interestingly I see playlist, artist, album, etc in my MMI, but I can only select playlist and that's after it taking a long time to read my iPod (had 12,000+ songs at first. Reduced to about 2,000 songs and no playlist has more than 475 songs (4 playlists). The MMI has rebooted before while trying to load my iPod. After MMI reboots it continues where it left off and will eventually finish (30 minutes or more). I would be ok with the one time 30-45 minute read, but it does this each time. Switched to my iPhone 4S with only 450 songs, and it loads quicker, but still can't select Artist, Album, Song, etc.

Hope someone has a clue on he 2 issues above.

Thanks again, Ace, Stuart, and Paper (not necessarily in that order). Lol

Jeff

Post up your MMI trace file so we can try to help you
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:33 AM
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Hi Jeff, congratulations on your retrofit! Sounds like it went smoothly! The only reason I can think of why NCS won't talk to the new TCU is because $633 is not in the V0. I imagine INPA reads the V0 too so it knows how to handle communication with the modules. It must generate an index of expected units and variants based on the V0 and manufacturing date. After changing my production date I still didn't have the TCU listed in the ECU list in NCS hence why I added $633. It's no biggie of course, If it works don't mess with it!

I'm glad we have all had success with this retrofit, I would never have attempted this of it wasn't for Ace starting this thread in the first place. Now he just needs to tell u how to retrofit this comfort access!
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:49 AM
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Post up your MMI trace file so we can try to help you
with the 2 issue's you are having .
Paper, here is my trace of my MMI:

I forgot to change e65 to e66 but I don't think that's the issue.


BAUREIHE
e65
KEY_MEMORY_MMI
aktiv
WELLENBAND_MW
aktiv
LETZTES_MENUE
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_4
aktiv
FARBSET_4
farbset_b
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_4
komfortmode
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_1
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_2
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_3
aktiv
FARBSET_1
farbset_b
FARBSET_2
farbset_b
FARBSET_3
farbset_b
ASSISTENZFENSTER_1
kurzinfo
ASSISTENZFENSTER_2
kurzinfo
ASSISTENZFENSTER_3
bordcomputer2
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_1
komfortmode
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_2
komfortmode
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_3
komfortmode
ASSISTENZFENSTER_4
kurzinfo
TEL_US_BUSINESS
nicht_aktiv
TP
nicht_aktiv
WELLENBAND_KW
nicht_aktiv
WELLENBAND_LW
nicht_aktiv
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_4
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_1
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_2
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_3
grad_f
WEG_EINHEIT_4
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_1
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_2
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_3
mls
ZEIT_EINHEIT_1
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_2
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_3
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_4
12_stunden
IHKA_HIGH
aktiv
FONDKLIMAANLAGE
nicht_aktiv
MMI_FOND
nicht_aktiv
STANDHEIZUNG
nicht_aktiv
AUSSTATTUNG_DWS
aktiv
EDC
nicht_aktiv
PDC_VERBAUT
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_4
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_1
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_2
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_3
aktiv
ASK_LAUFWERK
cd
AMFMTUNER
single_tuner
CD_WECHSLER
aktiv
MULTIMEDIA_CHANGER
aktiv
VIDEOMODUL
nicht_aktiv
TV_VIDEO_ABSCHALTUNG
aktiv
TOP_HIFI
aktiv
SITZHEIZUNG
aktiv
ECE_TELEFON
nicht_aktiv
US_TELEFON
aktiv
TEL_US_PROFESSIONAL
aktiv
TEL_BLUETOOTH
aktiv
NAVIGATION_VERBAUT
aktiv
RDC_VERBAUT
nicht_aktiv
KENNLINIE_LCD
kl_basis_front
kl_basis_front_ir
kl_basis_front_e67
kl_high_front
kl_high_front_ir
kl_high_front_e67
AUFBLENDZEIT_1_LCD
aufz_1_basis_front
aufz_1_basis_front_ir
aufz_1_basis_front_e67
aufz_1_high_front
aufz_1_high_front_ir
aufz_1_high_front_e67
AUFBLENDZEIT_2_LCD
aufz_2_basis_front
aufz_2_basis_front_ir
aufz_2_basis_front_e67
aufz_2_high_front
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aufz_2_high_front_e67
ABBLENDZEIT_1_LCD
abbz_1_basis_front
abbz_1_basis_front_ir
abbz_1_basis_front_e67
abbz_1_high_front
abbz_1_high_front_ir
abbz_1_high_front_e67
ABBLENDZEIT_2_LCD
abbz_2_basis_front
abbz_2_basis_front_ir
abbz_2_basis_front_e67
abbz_2_high_front
abbz_2_high_front_ir
abbz_2_high_front_e67
FAHRZEUGTYP_MMI
ece_ll
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_1
us
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_2
franzoesisch
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_3
spanisch
SPRACHE_1
us
SPRACHE_2
us
SPRACHE_3
us
SPRACHE_4
us
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_4
nicht_aktiv
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_5
nicht_aktiv
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_6
nicht_aktiv
DRUCK_EINHEIT_1
bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_2
bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_3
bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_4
bar
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_1
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_2
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_3
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_4
mpg
DATUM_EINHEIT_1
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_2
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_3
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_4
mm_tt_jj
SDARSTUNER
nicht_aktiv
ZUHEIZUNG_MMI
nicht_aktiv
LETZT_VERW_SCHLUESSEL
schluessel3
NAVI_ASSIST_FOND
nicht_aktiv
OELSTAND
aktiv
DTC_BUTTON
aktiv
HARDKEY_ASK
aktiv
KLIMA_AUTO
aktiv
MP3
aktiv
RDS
aktiv
TV
nicht_aktiv
NIVI
nicht_aktiv
LUFTVER
nicht_aktiv
SMS
nicht_aktiv
LAENDERVARIANTE_BNDB_MMI
us
E_CALL_COUNTDOWN
0s
DAB
nicht_aktiv
DAB_ECE
nicht_aktiv
HM_VIDEO
nicht_aktiv
IBOC
nicht_aktiv
MW_AM
aktiv
RDC_US
nicht_aktiv
REG
nicht_aktiv
TP_SELECT
nicht_aktiv
VIDEOTEXT
nicht_aktiv
BLUETOOTH_HANDY
aktiv
AUX
aktiv
BT_GUID
nicht_aktiv
SDARS25
nicht_aktiv
TEL_SERV_MENU
aktiv
TV_DIG
nicht_aktiv
EXNAV_NEU
nicht_aktiv
VMODE_NIVI_NAVI
nicht_aktiv
FM_FOLLOWING
nicht_aktiv
TOUT_LEGALDISCLAIMER
wert_02
AS_HK_AMFM
nicht_aktiv
NIVI_MENUE_NEU
nicht_aktiv
PDT_LOOK_A
nicht_aktiv
TOUT_SWITCH_HYSTERE_T1
wert_01
TOUT_SWITCH_HYSTERE_T2
wert_04
TOUT_TV_ANWAHL
wert_01
AUFSTART_HAUPTMENUE
aktiv
FARBEINST_ECE_SINGLE
nicht_aktiv
HILFE
aktiv
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_1
hilfe
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_2
hilfe
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_3
navi_letzter_hinweis
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_4
hilfe
SHOW_ERROR_MOST_ECU
aktiv
ASSIST_HIGH_04
aktiv
AUTO_CAL_ADC
aktiv
NIVI_MFL
nicht_aktiv
LISTH_0306
nicht_aktiv
CHECK
aktiv
HILFE_ALLG
aktiv
KLIMAPFEILE
aktiv
MENUENAME
aktiv
PREV_TELN
aktiv
SERVICE
aktiv
DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
IPOD_ADD
aktiv
SICH_DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
BMP_DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
TEL_LIST_RETRY_TIMER
wert_06
EXNAV_OHNE_VM
nicht_aktiv
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:57 AM
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Hi Jeff, congratulations on your retrofit! Sounds like it went smoothly! The only reason I can think of why NCS won't talk to the new TCU is because $633 is not in the V0. I imagine INPA reads the V0 too so it knows how to handle communication with the modules. It must generate an index of expected units and variants based on the V0 and manufacturing date. After changing my production date I still didn't have the TCU listed in the ECU list in NCS hence why I added $633. It's no biggie of course, If it works don't mess with it!

I'm glad we have all had success with this retrofit, I would never have attempted this of it wasn't for Ace starting this thread in the first place. Now he just needs to tell u how to retrofit this comfort access!
Thanks Stuart, did you add $633 to the VO by writing to CAS and LMA (sorry)? Or did you add it when you changed your production date and thus never wrote it permenantly?

Once I fix these minor issues with the coding, I think retrofitting electric side mirrors might be a nice retrofit for those in need. Also I changed ALL possible lighting to LED but the bulb connected to the fibre in the door still glows a yellowish color. I would love to change these bulbs to white or LED, but the idea of taking appart 4 doors for 4 light bulbs seems dangerous. The comfort access looks like a very costly and complex retrofit even though it is really cool.

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Thanks Stuart, did you add $633 to the VO by writing to CAS and LMA (sorry)? Or did you add it when you changed your production date and thus never wrote it permenantly?

Once I fix these minor issues with the coding, I think retrofitting electric side mirrors might be a nice retrofit for those in need. Also I changed ALL possible lighting to LED but the bulb connected to the fibre in the door still glows a yellowish color. I would love to change these bulbs to white or LED, but the idea of taking appart 4 doors for 4 light bulbs seems dangerous. The comfort access looks like a very costly and complex retrofit even though it is really cool.

Jeff-
Hi Jeff,

I wrote $633 to the VO using the same method as the the date change, it's just a dummy change, i.e. don't actually write to the CAS or LMA.

I have been looking at exactly the same! I have taken a door apart and it's a custom bulb holder with a connector the same as the angel eye bulbs. The bulbs look similar too. I'm hoping to machine up some adaptors/cups that the fibre optic cable fits into and takes a Chinese LED angel eye bulb. That's not a priority at the mo! LMA and gearbox first!
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Hi Jeff,

I wrote $633 to the VO using the same method as the the date change, it's just a dummy change, i.e. don't actually write to the CAS or LMA.

I have been looking at exactly the same! I have taken a door apart and it's a custom bulb holder with a connector the same as the angel eye bulbs. The bulbs look similar too. I'm hoping to machine up some adaptors/cups that the fibre optic cable fits into and takes a Chinese LED angel eye bulb. That's not a priority at the mo! LMA and gearbox first!
When it becomes a priority make an extra 4 and I'll pay you. Was taking the door apart difficult? Worth the risk?
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Paper, here is my trace of my MMI:

I forgot to change e65 to e66 but I don't think that's the issue.


BAUREIHE
e65
KEY_MEMORY_MMI
aktiv
WELLENBAND_MW
aktiv
LETZTES_MENUE
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_4
aktiv
FARBSET_4
farbset_b
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_4
komfortmode
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_1
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_2
aktiv
ANIMATION_SCHIEBEN_3
aktiv
FARBSET_1
farbset_b
FARBSET_2
farbset_b
FARBSET_3
farbset_b
ASSISTENZFENSTER_1
kurzinfo
ASSISTENZFENSTER_2
kurzinfo
ASSISTENZFENSTER_3
bordcomputer2
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_1
komfortmode
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_2
komfortmode
PROGR_TASTE_MFL_3
komfortmode
ASSISTENZFENSTER_4
kurzinfo
TEL_US_BUSINESS
nicht_aktiv
TP
nicht_aktiv
WELLENBAND_KW
nicht_aktiv
WELLENBAND_LW
nicht_aktiv
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_4
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_1
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_2
grad_f
TEMPERATUR_EINHEIT_3
grad_f
WEG_EINHEIT_4
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_1
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_2
mls
WEG_EINHEIT_3
mls
ZEIT_EINHEIT_1
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_2
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_3
12_stunden
ZEIT_EINHEIT_4
12_stunden
IHKA_HIGH
aktiv
FONDKLIMAANLAGE
nicht_aktiv
MMI_FOND
nicht_aktiv
STANDHEIZUNG
nicht_aktiv
AUSSTATTUNG_DWS
aktiv
EDC
nicht_aktiv
PDC_VERBAUT
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_4
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_1
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_2
aktiv
MONITORBILD_PDC_3
aktiv
ASK_LAUFWERK
cd
AMFMTUNER
single_tuner
CD_WECHSLER
aktiv
MULTIMEDIA_CHANGER
aktiv
VIDEOMODUL
nicht_aktiv
TV_VIDEO_ABSCHALTUNG
aktiv
TOP_HIFI
aktiv
SITZHEIZUNG
aktiv
ECE_TELEFON
nicht_aktiv
US_TELEFON
aktiv
TEL_US_PROFESSIONAL
aktiv
TEL_BLUETOOTH
aktiv
NAVIGATION_VERBAUT
aktiv
RDC_VERBAUT
nicht_aktiv
KENNLINIE_LCD
kl_basis_front
kl_basis_front_ir
kl_basis_front_e67
kl_high_front
kl_high_front_ir
kl_high_front_e67
AUFBLENDZEIT_1_LCD
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aufz_1_basis_front_ir
aufz_1_basis_front_e67
aufz_1_high_front
aufz_1_high_front_ir
aufz_1_high_front_e67
AUFBLENDZEIT_2_LCD
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aufz_2_basis_front_e67
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aufz_2_high_front_e67
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abbz_1_high_front
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abbz_1_high_front_e67
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abbz_2_basis_front_e67
abbz_2_high_front
abbz_2_high_front_ir
abbz_2_high_front_e67
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ece_ll
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_1
us
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_2
franzoesisch
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_3
spanisch
SPRACHE_1
us
SPRACHE_2
us
SPRACHE_3
us
SPRACHE_4
us
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_4
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WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_5
nicht_aktiv
WAEHLBARE_SPRACHE_6
nicht_aktiv
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bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_2
bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_3
bar
DRUCK_EINHEIT_4
bar
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_1
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_2
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_3
mpg
VERBRAUCH_EINHEIT_4
mpg
DATUM_EINHEIT_1
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_2
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_3
mm_tt_jj
DATUM_EINHEIT_4
mm_tt_jj
SDARSTUNER
nicht_aktiv
ZUHEIZUNG_MMI
nicht_aktiv
LETZT_VERW_SCHLUESSEL
schluessel3
NAVI_ASSIST_FOND
nicht_aktiv
OELSTAND
aktiv
DTC_BUTTON
aktiv
HARDKEY_ASK
aktiv
KLIMA_AUTO
aktiv
MP3
aktiv
RDS
aktiv
TV
nicht_aktiv
NIVI
nicht_aktiv
LUFTVER
nicht_aktiv
SMS
nicht_aktiv
LAENDERVARIANTE_BNDB_MMI
us
E_CALL_COUNTDOWN
0s
DAB
nicht_aktiv
DAB_ECE
nicht_aktiv
HM_VIDEO
nicht_aktiv
IBOC
nicht_aktiv
MW_AM
aktiv
RDC_US
nicht_aktiv
REG
nicht_aktiv
TP_SELECT
nicht_aktiv
VIDEOTEXT
nicht_aktiv
BLUETOOTH_HANDY
aktiv
AUX
aktiv
BT_GUID
nicht_aktiv
SDARS25
nicht_aktiv
TEL_SERV_MENU
aktiv
TV_DIG
nicht_aktiv
EXNAV_NEU
nicht_aktiv
VMODE_NIVI_NAVI
nicht_aktiv
FM_FOLLOWING
nicht_aktiv
TOUT_LEGALDISCLAIMER
wert_02
AS_HK_AMFM
nicht_aktiv
NIVI_MENUE_NEU
nicht_aktiv
PDT_LOOK_A
nicht_aktiv
TOUT_SWITCH_HYSTERE_T1
wert_01
TOUT_SWITCH_HYSTERE_T2
wert_04
TOUT_TV_ANWAHL
wert_01
AUFSTART_HAUPTMENUE
aktiv
FARBEINST_ECE_SINGLE
nicht_aktiv
HILFE
aktiv
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_1
hilfe
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_2
hilfe
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_3
navi_letzter_hinweis
PROGR_TASTE_CONTR_4
hilfe
SHOW_ERROR_MOST_ECU
aktiv
ASSIST_HIGH_04
aktiv
AUTO_CAL_ADC
aktiv
NIVI_MFL
nicht_aktiv
LISTH_0306
nicht_aktiv

CHECK
aktiv
HILFE_ALLG
aktiv
KLIMAPFEILE
aktiv
MENUENAME
aktiv
PREV_TELN
aktiv
SERVICE
aktiv
DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
IPOD_ADD
aktiv
SICH_DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
BMP_DEAK_BT
nicht_aktiv
TEL_LIST_RETRY_TIMER
wert_06
EXNAV_OHNE_VM
nicht_aktiv
set that to aktiv . that should help with your ipod .
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When it becomes a priority make an extra 4 and I'll pay you. Was taking the door apart difficult? Worth the risk?
you don't have to remove the door panels , just

take the handles off to change the light .
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you don't have to remove the door panels , just

take the handles off to change the light .
I thought the bulb was towards the bottom of the door and it used a fibre optic cable to shine the light by the handle. I thought I saw that on Realoem.com.

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Btw- now that I have the new TCU connected and working (call sound quality much better than before) what is the cool thing you found that you were mentioning in a prior post?

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take the handles off to change the light .
Hi Paper, I'm 100% sure the bulb is in the door, it's a large 8mm diamater fibre optic cable that connects to the handle and then to a bulb holder in the door. Well at least on mine they are. I will post some pics when I get home I'm on holiday at the moment.

Door cards are pretty straightforward, need to be about rough to get them off!
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set that to aktiv . that should help with your ipod .
Tried that last night but no effect. I think the issue might have something to do with me adding the +IPOD to my VO before retrofitting the MMI since the older MMI didn't support the iPod kit. It could also be that I used the date of 09/04 as my "mock" production date and the MMI is from 2007 so i didn't get all the options in my trace. I might try a date after 3/2005 and see if that fixes it.

Considering I have to adjust the production date temporarily is there any way of getting the MMI to use a default config based on my cars real VO? I know people do this sometimes after a retrofit to make sure only he options that are installed get activated, but I'm not sure how to do it since I first have to change the production date to access my MMI at all.

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Hi Paper, I'm 100% sure the bulb is in the door, it's a large 8mm diamater fibre optic cable that connects to the handle and then to a bulb holder in the door. Well at least on mine they are. I will post some pics when I get home I'm on holiday at the moment.

Door cards are pretty straightforward, need to be about rough to get them off!
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set that to aktiv . that should help with your ipod .
Paper, I was able to fix the issue of iPod list being displayed but nothing was selectable (except playlists). It also took 20 minutes or more to load my songs (each and everytime I started my car) and when it did this the iDrive became unresponsive. I was also having an issue with the Auto P not being selectable in iDrive or from the steering wheel custom button, but if I pressed the button on my dash the Auto P worked.

Instead of editing the trace file and then saving it with the .Man extension, I deleted (after backing up) the contents of the file and then wrote it to my MMI causing it to take on the configuration based on my VO. I then made my edits and wrote that to the MMI and my iPod with around 2,000 songs loaded in a couple of minutes and everything is now selectable. So thankfully that is fixed, but I still can't select the Auto P in the iDrive.

I have no idea why a feature that to my knowledge has nothing in the MMI file that can activate or de-activate that feature from working still isn't working. No idea what to try next.

Other than this all my retrofits are working perfectly with no side effects.

Any ideas about why this is happening? Could you please also share the interesting thing you discovered after completing the Bluetooth retrofit?

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Paper, I was able to fix the issue of iPod list being displayed but nothing was selectable (except playlists). It also took 20 minutes or more to load my songs (each and everytime I started my car) and when it did this the iDrive became unresponsive. I was also having an issue with the Auto P not being selectable in iDrive or from the steering wheel custom button, but if I pressed the button on my dash the Auto P worked.

Instead of editing the trace file and then saving it with the .Man extension, I deleted (after backing up) the contents of the file and then wrote it to my MMI causing it to take on the configuration based on my VO. I then made my edits and wrote that to the MMI and my iPod with around 2,000 songs loaded in a couple of minutes and everything is now selectable. So thankfully that is fixed, but I still can't select the Auto P in the iDrive.

I have no idea why a feature that to my knowledge has nothing in the MMI file that can activate or de-activate that feature from working still isn't working. No idea what to try next.

Other than this all my retrofits are working perfectly with no side effects.

Any ideas about why this is happening? Could you please also share the interesting thing you discovered after completing the Bluetooth retrofit?

Thanks,

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ok your being a little vague with your description of what you did ...
So let me know if I understand you right .
you deleted the contents of your Trace file ( leaving it blank ) ?
then you wrote the blank file to your MMI ???

My question is what about your MAN file , Did you also delete
the contents in there ???
if you didn't , then all you did was write the contents from your last
edit of what your MMI already had back to it .

that would be why your still not able to use the Auto P .
You didn't write what your VO has if you did this .

Also you don't explain how you fixed the issue , or what line
you are referring to that had playlist in it ???

edit =
forgot to ask if you had +ipod in your VO when doing this ???
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ok your being a little vague with your description of what you did ...
So let me know if I understand you right .
you deleted the contents of your Trace file ( leaving it blank ) ?
then you wrote the blank file to your MMI ???

My question is what about your MAN file , Did you also delete
the contents in there ???
if you didn't , then all you did was write the contents from your last
edit of what your MMI already had back to it .

that would be why your still not able to use the Auto P .
You didn't write what your VO has if you did this .

Also you don't explain how you fixed the issue , or what line
you are referring to that had playlist in it ???

edit =
forgot to ask if you had +ipod in your VO when doing this ???
Paper, I read the MMI using the same steps listed in my post (your work around - i just listed out the steps) and then deleted the contents of the .MAN file instead of editing it. I Then I hit execute which defaulted the MMI config using my VO. I know it actually did this because after the MMI rebooted I had the navigation disclaimer warning back and all my prior changes were lost (I have a backup). I then made all the changes I wanted including setting IPOD_ADD and LISTH_0306 to aktiv. I already added +IPOD to my VO before I started the MMI retrofit.

Remember that I had the iPod list, just couldn't select anything other than playlists. The trace file that I posted for you showed it nicht_aktiv, but that file was from an older backup.

I hope I explained it better than in my last post. Still can't understand why the Auto P is not selectable.

I've been using #0904 as my temporary production date to read the MMI since it's the first one that worked. I may see if I can get a date to work that is closer to the actual production date of the MMI and see if that changes anything.

When listening to songs from the iPod does the song information scroll along the bottom for you during the entire song? Mine briefly displays the name of the song, but then I am left with only the song number (i.e. 10, 443, 897).

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Paper, I read the MMI using the same steps listed in my post (your work around - i just listed out the steps) and then deleted the contents of the .MAN file instead of editing it. I Then I hit execute which defaulted the MMI config using my VO. I know it actually did this because after the MMI rebooted I had the navigation disclaimer warning back and all my prior changes were lost (I have a backup). I then made all the changes I wanted including setting IPOD_ADD and LISTH_0306 to aktiv. I already added +IPOD to my VO before I started the MMI retrofit.

Remember that I had the iPod list, just couldn't select anything other than playlists. The trace file that I posted for you showed it nicht_aktiv, but that file was from an older backup.

I hope I explained it better than in my last post. Still can't understand why the Auto P is not selectable.

I've been using #0904 as my temporary production date to read the MMI since it's the first one that worked. I may see if I can get a date to work that is closer to the actual production date of the MMI and see if that changes anything.

When listening to songs from the iPod does the song information scroll along the bottom for you during the entire song? Mine briefly displays the name of the song, but then I am left with only the song number (i.e. 10, 443, 897).

Thanks.
ok when you did this were you using Expert profile ? ( you should have )
No the song doesn't scroll during the entire song . ( just the beginning )
As for your Auto P , you need to set it to Aktiv in your MMI trace file
for you to have that option back on your screen .
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ok when you did this were you using Expert profile ? ( you should have )
No the song doesn't scroll during the entire song . ( just the beginning )
As for your Auto P , you need to set it to Aktiv in your MMI trace file
for you to have that option back on your screen .
I wasn't aware that Auto P was something that could be activated or de-activated in the MMM trace file. Could you please tell me what line in your trace file you are talking about?

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ok you still didn't answer my questions . ( did you use Expert profile ? )

let start over so maybe this time you will understand what I am telling you .

1.st
you did not set your MMI to default !!!
if you had set it to load your Default VO then your Auto P
would be on the screen & working .

all you did was reload the MMI trace file you just read
without the Aktiv changes you had previously made to it .
why did this occur ???
( because you used a blank Man file )
The MMI's internal memory Re-sets any changes you made
when you use a blank Man file .
( this info was given to me by a BMW Master Tech )
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ok you still didn't answer my questions . ( did you use Expert profile ? )

let start over so maybe this time you will understand what I am telling you .

1.st
you did not set your MMI to default !!!
if you had set it to load your Default VO then your Auto P
would be on the screen & working .

all you did was reload the MMI trace file you just read
without the Aktiv changes you had previously made to it .
why did this occur ???
( because you used a blank Man file )
The MMI's internal memory Re-sets any changes you made
when you use a blank Man file .
( this info was given to me by a BMW Master Tech )
Paper, I did not use the Expert profile because when you and I spoke you mentioned that I needed to use the Fister profile in order to get past the COAPI-1000 error and be able to read the facelift MMI. I thought you said that it wouldn't work if I used any other profile and you tested it first with the Expert profile and it didn't work.

Prior to you finalizing the solution for the COAPI-1000 error I had tried resetting the MMI to my VO using the Expert profile but it failed to communicate with the MMI because I hadn't temporarily changed the production date.

Are you now telling me to use the Expert profile to temporarily change the production date and then reset the MMI? The only way I think that would work, is if I temporarily edit the Fister profile and uncheck the box that says: FSW-/PSW-Manipulate with FSW_PSW.MAN. This would have the same effect as using the Expert profile (correct me if I'm wrong).

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Paper, I did not use the Expert profile because when you and I spoke you mentioned that I needed to use the Fister profile in order to get past the COAPI-1000 error and be able to read the facelift MMI. I thought you said that it wouldn't work if I used any other profile and you tested it first with the Expert profile and it didn't work.

Prior to you finalizing the solution for the COAPI-1000 error I had tried resetting the MMI to my VO using the Expert profile but it failed to communicate with the MMI because I hadn't temporarily changed the production date.

Are you now telling me to use the Expert profile to temporarily change the production date and then reset the MMI? The only way I think that would work, is if I temporarily edit the Fister profile and uncheck the box that says: FSW-/PSW-Manipulate with FSW_PSW.MAN. This would have the same effect as using the Expert profile (correct me if I'm wrong).

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I think you misunderstood me when we spoke , I said you need to use the
Fister profile to edit your production date & when making changes to your MMI .
( cause the expert will only reset your module unless you modify your expert profile )
if your trying to get your MMI back to factory settings ( or in this case your VO settings )
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Jeff, whats the exact symptoms of the Auto P your having? Mine has stopped working too, you cannot select Auto P and pressing the multifunction button on the steering wheel does nothing. In my case this has nothing to do with the MMI coding etc.... first time I had a broken handbrake cable, it had rusted solid inside the liner, this caused a malfunction with the electro mechanical parking brake actuator in the boot. this stopped the Auto P from working. There was a warning on the dash that the parking brake was faulty, this stopped the Auto P from working, (even though when the engine is running the brakes are held hydraulically by the ABS unit).

The second time (as after I fixed this problem it has returned!) I think is because I have a fault stored in the gearbox ECU regarding the torque convertor lockup clutch. It appears any errors with the drivetrain or handbrake inhibit the Auto P function, I guess for safety reasons. It may not be this in your case but see if you have any codes stored in the gearbox ECU.

A little update on the LMA, it looks bad, no luck talking to the LMA with any software, I found this on TIS:

· Processor failure: If the processor fails, the system will switch to emergency operating mode. Emergency operating mode is a hardware feature and thus completely independent of the light module.

Emergency-running characteristics if the processor fails:
- Vehicle lighting: The following are switched on when terminal 15 is switched ON: At the front the dipped headlights, and at the rear the position lights and the left and right outer brake lights (side lights). The position lights and the left and right outer brake lights are not dimmed to 10% brightness, as is usually the case, but rather operated at full power. ne Vehicle lighting is thus assured, regardless of the position of the light switch.
- Brake lights: When terminal 15 is switched ON, the left and right brake lights are switched on when the brake pedal is pressed (via a direct wire from the brake-light switch to the lamp drivers).

Malfunctions in the event of processor failure:
- No turn signal, no hazard warning lights
- No main beam, no headlight flasher
- No front or rear foglights
- No additional centre brake light
- No communication via the K-CAN
- No communication with the trailer module

These are the exact symptoms I have, it would appear that nothing can communicate via OBD because the LMA cannot communicate on the K-CAN. This means there is no way of recovering the unit over OBD. Looks like a new LMA is needed! problem is this unit also stores a backup of the mileage, this is looking very difficult to change myself and going to be a real headache!
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Jeff, whats the exact symptoms of the Auto P your having? Mine has stopped working too, you cannot select Auto P and pressing the multifunction button on the steering wheel does nothing. In my case this has nothing to do with the MMI coding etc.... first time I had a broken handbrake cable, it had rusted solid inside the liner, this caused a malfunction with the electro mechanical parking brake actuator in the boot. this stopped the Auto P from working. There was a warning on the dash that the parking brake was faulty, this stopped the Auto P from working, (even though when the engine is running the brakes are held hydraulically by the ABS unit).

The second time (as after I fixed this problem it has returned!) I think is because I have a fault stored in the gearbox ECU regarding the torque convertor lockup clutch. It appears any errors with the drivetrain or handbrake inhibit the Auto P function, I guess for safety reasons. It may not be this in your case but see if you have any codes stored in the gearbox ECU.

A little update on the LMA, it looks bad, no luck talking to the LMA with any software, I found this on TIS:

· Processor failure: If the processor fails, the system will switch to emergency operating mode. Emergency operating mode is a hardware feature and thus completely independent of the light module.

Emergency-running characteristics if the processor fails:
- Vehicle lighting: The following are switched on when terminal 15 is switched ON: At the front the dipped headlights, and at the rear the position lights and the left and right outer brake lights (side lights). The position lights and the left and right outer brake lights are not dimmed to 10% brightness, as is usually the case, but rather operated at full power. ne Vehicle lighting is thus assured, regardless of the position of the light switch.
- Brake lights: When terminal 15 is switched ON, the left and right brake lights are switched on when the brake pedal is pressed (via a direct wire from the brake-light switch to the lamp drivers).

Malfunctions in the event of processor failure:
- No turn signal, no hazard warning lights
- No main beam, no headlight flasher
- No front or rear foglights
- No additional centre brake light
- No communication via the K-CAN
- No communication with the trailer module

These are the exact symptoms I have, it would appear that nothing can communicate via OBD because the LMA cannot communicate on the K-CAN. This means there is no way of recovering the unit over OBD. Looks like a new LMA is needed! problem is this unit also stores a backup of the mileage, this is looking very difficult to change myself and going to be a real headache!
Stuart, my symptoms are the same in that I can't select Auto P in the MMI or by pressing the MF button on the steering wheel (I have the button programmed for the Auto P function, but it doesn't do anything). My parking brake works fine and I have no errors on my dash. I can check and see if I have any errors stored using INPA.

Really sorry to hear that your LMA issue is more difficult to solve than previously thought.

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Stuart, my symptoms are the same in that I can't select Auto P in the MMI or by pressing the MF button on the steering wheel (I have the button programmed for the Auto P function, but it doesn't do anything). My parking brake works fine and I have no errors on my dash. I can check and see if I have any errors stored using INPA.

Really sorry to hear that your LMA issue is more difficult to solve than previously thought.

Jeff
Hi Jeff,

The gearbox errors that I have do not illuminate any lamps or show errors in the iDrive display.

Yes you can, select E65, find the transmission ECU in the list, then read errors. You can clear errors too, manually actuate the mechatronic solenoids etc... Very useful! It's the same as DIS but more difficult to use.

Yeah, as it will cost over £500 for the dealer to repair I will take a gamble and try and code a used unit.

Stuart.
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Hi AceFx, sorry to be off topic but I wanted to change my M-ASK and MMI have found a BMW Breaker who has all the stuff I need which is from an facelift late 2006 E65.

I was wondering if I could get the Dashsoft software off of you, and also wanted to know if I could get all the relevent usb firmware or adapters files as well.

Im very impressed with your work which you have so far done on your E66, your videos are also very very helpful.

Many thanks in advance.

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