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Old 05-12-2013, 04:21 AM
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Re: How to Retrofit a Bluetooth TCU to your car

Phil not been funny but u need to read this thread from the start it will explain exactly what to do from start to finish especially where to get the proper connecting plug from and how and wat wires to change over etc and how to code it ,it is quiet easy to do but a lot to explain .wat I done was had the page open on my laptop that shows Stuartjohns post on how to do it in this thread .

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Old 05-12-2013, 05:40 AM
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Thanks irish745, sadly you will have to do some reading! You will need the new connector, I got mine from an audi dealer, BMW didn't stock that connector for some reason.

To give you a hint start with post 243, I listed all wiring for a UK Siemens to Bluetooth TCU conversion. The next page shows the installation and coding process. I did list the part number for the connector too on one of my posts around there.

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:28 AM
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Sorry guys. I was just keen to get it done and panicked a bit. I'll read through properly first

'Best to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!'

I'll let you know how I get on

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:33 AM
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Sorry guys. I was just keen to get it done and panicked a bit. I'll read through properly first

'Best to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!'

I'll let you know how I get on

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I didn't mean to sound bitchy or smart Phil ,I just thought it best to say it the way I said it to be the most helpful as that's wat helped me get it done right and working in under an hr

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:24 AM
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No problem at all mate. I didn't take it the wrong way and appreciate all advice given

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Old 05-13-2013, 09:32 PM
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Excellent thread!

Really wish I read this thread sooner, then I would have kept my TCU from my 2007 e90 after upgrading to combox. To add insult to injury, through the combox upgrade, I had to reconfigure the 54 pin tcu plug to the 26 pin plug the combox used.

Ironic isn't it, we went from 26 pin to 54 pin and now back to 26 pin...

Anyway here is the part# for the 54 pin if you want to order from BMW instead of Audi: 61136920074


EDIT: Just heard back from Evan@Tischer:

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BMW has this listed out as:

61136920074, covering cap, 54 pol, $11.68
61136920062, socket housing, 1-36 pol, $1.06
61136909070, socket housing, 37-54 pol, $0.92
61138369696, socket terminal, 0.2-0.5mm, $0.46
61138369700, socket terminal, 0.75mm, $0.64

I believe you'd probably need all of that to build the appropriate connector for these.

Let me know if ya need anything else! :thumbsup:

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Old 05-30-2013, 03:58 PM
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Hi stuart, very impressive work you have done there, I just want to ask you a quick question if you have any info about, I have a 2006 730d which has the bluetooth module already, would it be possible to some how put a bluetooth module into it from any other bmw that allows music streaming? Cos I had a friends new 7 series for about a month and I could stream music over bluetooth which was so nice to be able to. Thanks in advance
And I would love to have ACE and Papas views and thoughts on this matter if they can see it, thank you all
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:07 AM
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Hi stuart, very impressive work you have done there, I just want to ask you a quick question if you have any info about, I have a 2006 730d which has the bluetooth module already, would it be possible to some how put a bluetooth module into it from any other bmw that allows music streaming? Cos I had a friends new 7 series for about a month and I could stream music over bluetooth which was so nice to be able to. Thanks in advance
And I would love to have ACE and Papas views and thoughts on this matter if they can see it, thank you all
TCU 1.5 that is installed in MY2007 and later lists Bluetooth A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) in the list of codable options (as long as you have a current flash file installed). This TCU 1.5 is also used in the E60/E61 5er.
I don't know of a way for the E65 interface to select AD2P as an audio source.

Others may know more.
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Old 06-24-2014, 09:05 AM
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TCU repin

PLEASE can someone tell me how to repin my old tcu to NEW TCU 1.5 from E60 LCI model? I can't find it anywhere.... Thank you very much!

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Old 06-24-2014, 10:03 AM
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PLEASE can someone tell me how to repin my old tcu to NEW TCU 1.5 from E60 LCI model? I can't find it anywhere.... Thank you very much!
Read the topic it's in here . Start from page 1

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Old 07-16-2014, 12:32 PM
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Old 07-18-2014, 07:39 AM
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Hi guys, I have been following this thread quietly for a long time, as finally decided to go for it. I bought a 2009 TCU couple of week ago, got all the software installed, but failed to get it work despite trying many different methods, including dummy changing the production date on VO, which led me to think that the TCU was too new for the car, so bought another one from 2007, same part as Stuart's, and success!! It's all working fine now. Lucky for me, my car is 2005 facelift, and the TCU connectors are the same, just had to modify the TCU 54pin socket housing a little bit so that I could plug it in. Coding wise, I just followed the instruction here provided by Paper and Stuart, so thank you very much guys, now I can get rid of the front draw phone and the sim card! LOL.

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Old 09-29-2014, 08:29 AM
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Old 10-05-2014, 11:01 PM
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Anybody her knows where I can get a bluetooth adapter for my 04 745i and how to get it installed? I have no idea bout the car..
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:29 PM
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Anybody her knows where I can get a bluetooth adapter for my 04 745i and how to get it installed? I have no idea bout the car..
if your talking about a TCU Retrofit so you can use Bluetooth for your phone ???
I have what you need & can do the Retrofit .
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:56 PM
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How much for the TCU and I'll buy it from you? but I have no clue how to install it tho?


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Old 10-16-2014, 12:26 AM
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Ok, so I've read to all the pages (lots to take in) on this thread which had left me unsure whether or not this is a good idea with all the issues this has thrown up...

So I've got a facelift 2005 740i. As far as I understand, I need to get a TCU 1.5, buy the connector (though there's one on eBay at the moment with the plug attached) change the pins as outlined (I'm assuming that the wiring is the same as the pre facelift this was explained on?)

And then the only coding required (because I have a facelift) is MMI related.

This is where I'll struggle though as I have zero experience coding, I can read and clear fault codes but that's all I've done to date.

Is there a guide as to how to do this?

Thanks in advance and thanks for going through all this heartache on our behalf


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Old 10-16-2014, 04:06 AM
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Ok, so I've read to all the pages (lots to take in) on this thread which had left me unsure whether or not this is a good idea with all the issues this has thrown up...

So I've got a facelift 2005 740i. As far as I understand, I need to get a TCU 1.5, buy the connector (though there's one on eBay at the moment with the plug attached) change the pins as outlined (I'm assuming that the wiring is the same as the pre facelift this was explained on?)

And then the only coding required (because I have a facelift) is MMI related.

This is where I'll struggle though as I have zero experience coding, I can read and clear fault codes but that's all I've done to date.

Is there a guide as to how to do this?

Thanks in advance and thanks for going through all this heartache on our behalf


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I suggest you check your current set up first, being a facelift, you might not need the connector, take off the passenger side lining in the boot and have a look, locate your TCU, if the plug is white then you are set. Only modification you would need is to cut off a little tap in the socket housing of the new TCU.
One thing, when choosing the TCU, try to find one that is from an E65, some others might not work, I originally bought an E70 one made in 2009 and it did not work properly, and I found one with matching part number to Stuart's and it's working fine.
To code the unit, you will need BMW Tools, i.e. NCS Expert and Toolset32. Use Toolset 32 to change the VIN on the new unit to match your car, you might also need to change the chassis if it's not from a E65.
Then use NCS Expert to edit your Vehicle Order, you might also need to dummy change the production date.
Afterwards you code the TCU and MMI, most of the details are covered in the thread, along with solutions to problems you may encounter.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:33 AM
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I suggest you check your current set up first, being a facelift, you might not need the connector, take off the passenger side lining in the boot and have a look, locate your TCU, if the plug is white then you are set. Only modification you would need is to cut off a little tap in the socket housing of the new TCU.

One thing, when choosing the TCU, try to find one that is from an E65, some others might not work, I originally bought an E70 one made in 2009 and it did not work properly, and I found one with matching part number to Stuart's and it's working fine.

To code the unit, you will need BMW Tools, i.e. NCS Expert and Toolset32. Use Toolset 32 to change the VIN on the new unit to match your car, you might also need to change the chassis if it's not from a E65.

Then use NCS Expert to edit your Vehicle Order, you might also need to dummy change the production date.

Afterwards you code the TCU and MMI, most of the details are covered in the thread, along with solutions to problems you may encounter.

Good luck.

Thanks for that, really useful!! will check the connector tonight though will probably retrofit my FLA tonight (need coding instructions for that as wel...). I have all the BMW software tools but no idea how to use them.

Feel a bit like a monkey with a spanner TBH

I didn't see any step by step instructions for recoding VIN and Vehicle Order etc so if anyone can even point me in the general direction that would be great!


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Old 10-16-2014, 06:33 AM
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Thanks for that, really useful!! will check the connector tonight though will probably retrofit my FLA tonight (need coding instructions for that as wel...). I have all the BMW software tools but no idea how to use them.

Feel a bit like a monkey with a spanner TBH

I didn't see any step by step instructions for recoding VIN and Vehicle Order etc so if anyone can even point me in the general direction that would be great!


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Have a look at Stuart's posts (231, 232), those are the steps you will need. Just read them through carefully, make sure you understand them all, it's quite easy really. Prior to this, I had never tried coding either, so if I can do it, anyone can.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:13 AM
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Have a look at Stuart's posts (231, 232), those are the steps you will need. Just read them through carefully, make sure you understand them all, it's quite easy really. Prior to this, I had never tried coding either, so if I can do it, anyone can.
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Hi there.

While reinstalling my navi after replacing the laser I decided to have a look at the phone module connectors. Seems I'm in luck as my current module has the 54-pin connector. Does this mean a new tcu 1.5 would we a direct drop-in? I'm very comfortable with ncsexpert as I coded quite a bit on my 645ci Vert.

My car is a facelift 740i, early 2005 model with the handset installed drawer.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Hi there.

While reinstalling my navi after replacing the laser I decided to have a look at the phone module connectors. Seems I'm in luck as my current module has the 54-pin connector. Does this mean a new tcu 1.5 would we a direct drop-in? I'm very comfortable with ncsexpert as I coded quite a bit on my 645ci Vert.

My car is a facelift 740i, early 2005 model with the handset installed drawer.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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