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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 11-06-2014, 04:00 AM
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How often do you add oil between changes?

So I am trying to figure out if there is something wrong with our X5d. It has roughly 29k miles on it and I have had to add oil between changes at least twice. I need to look at my records, but maybe even three times. I realize all engines burn a little oil, but this has me wondering if ours is doing so more than normal.

Where to start looking? My wife drives the car, so I can't keep closer tabs on it, but it does smell hot when she gets home, and maybe even a slight burnt oil smell.

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Old 11-06-2014, 07:20 AM
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Usually just once.
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:27 AM
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Never. If someone changes oil for you, next time check the level with dipstick - they may be putting just above min, so a slight consumption triggers low level warning.
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Old 11-06-2014, 09:38 AM
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Usually just once.
Once between each interval? My question isn't clear. I have only added oil 2-3 times since ownership, which is about once between each oil change. Same for you?

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Never. If someone changes oil for you, next time check the level with dipstick - they may be putting just above min, so a slight consumption triggers low level warning.
I will check. That is a good point. But I am supplying the oil, so they have no reason not to fill it.

Typically you allow a car to sit for 10 minutes with engine off to check oil from the dipstick. Still true here?
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Old 11-06-2014, 04:50 PM
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Ive never had to add oil, (other than to get the level precisely at full after a dealer oil change). So close to zero use between changes, maybe 1/4 qt low.

I wouldnt be concerned AT ALL with even one quart every 7500 miles...

Once you know your engines' baseline, only a dramatic change from 'the norm' should be cause for concern. IMO
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:25 PM
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I have a 2011 X5d with 31000 miles and have never had to add oil (nor has it been low).
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:27 PM
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Once between each interval? My question isn't clear. I have only added oil 2-3 times since ownership, which is about once between each oil change. Same for you?


I will check. That is a good point. But I am supplying the oil, so they have no reason not to fill it.

Typically you allow a car to sit for 10 minutes with engine off to check oil from the dipstick. Still true here?
I'm sorry. Once between oil changes.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:32 AM
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63K and I've never seen it read less than full. I mostly stick to the 15K change interval and I use Mobil 1 0W40. At least my engine seems to have good genes.
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Old 11-07-2014, 02:28 AM
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Thanks guys. Putting my mind at ease. I will be sure to check the level after the dealer does the change. I assume you guys are filling according to the dipstick and not the Idrive??
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:05 AM
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Oil addition

First couple of years, nada, but in last 2 about 1 quart between changes, just had dealership check for oil leaks as it is coming out of warranty ( they where very willing to find any issues eow, seems it is a money earner !!. No leaks found but a slight ac leak which they fixed
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:37 AM
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65K on the clock and did not put any oil between.

Did 11K changes mostly as soon as I get reminder. Will do shorter one this time as car was involved in cross country trip with 6300lbs trailer behind since last change.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:01 PM
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I just top-up a quart last weekend, about 8k miles since the last oil change. The info on the screen/display made me do it lol.

Then the same screen made me put some air in the left-front tire a day later. That tire looked just fine, got kicked just fine (I actually stopped by the roadside to check), drove just fine and then got measured just fine too (32psi). Then top-up more all-around and hit the air-reset button. They all haven't complaint or threatened to go on strike after that!!

Other bimmer got jealous and thirsty too (coolant top-up icon).

Looks like it was top-up week. These bimmers think they're tourist prepaid cell phone cards that we need to top-up or what?!
I'm just happy there was no big malfunction error and didn't have to tow anything to the shop ha ha.
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:16 PM
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A diesel engine at 29,000 miles is almost broken in. I'd have thought that it would have stopped burning a little oil by then, but evidently not.

They've always told me that a quart every 1,000 miles was the tipping point: less than that, it's cheaper to keep adding oil; more than that, it's time to consider a ring-job.
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Old 11-07-2014, 01:49 PM
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Old 11-07-2014, 04:11 PM
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I've put about 20K on my '11 X5d which I bought CPO with 42K on it. It has used nary a drop of oil in the time I've owned it with 2 oil changes so far. The dipstick consistently reads the same level. I think I'd get it checked out. I've read in a couple places that the X5d is somewhat known for a leak to develop on the oil lines feeding the turbos. Not something I've experienced, but it might be a place to look since the turbos rely on that oil for lubrication and cooling.
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Old 11-07-2014, 04:28 PM
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I have never been concerned with having to add up to a quart every 6-8K mi or so to any 3l engine. Make that 0.5 quart for a 2l engine, or 1 qt every 5K mi for a 5l engine.
I do get concerned if the frequency drops to 1 quart every 3K mi or less.
Oil consumption also depends on the load: city driving, towing, cold starts and short distance, long up-hills will all tend to increase oil consumption.
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Old 11-07-2014, 04:42 PM
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Now at 225,000 miles and NEVER added oil between changes.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:21 PM
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Old 11-07-2014, 11:56 PM
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Now at 225,000 miles and NEVER added oil between changes.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:34 AM
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Based on two friends' experience, one a service advisor at BMW Germany and the other one a certified mechanic, do not trust BMW's interval that have been set artificially high to reduce cost of ownership. I have owned a 330d 2002 (Europe) and a 530xiT 2006 and have been replacing oil every 8,000 km (yes, 5,000 miles). I drove both close to 250,000 km without any engine issues and I intend to continue with this discipline on my X5. Clean oil is clean blood for your engine and turbo, do you want to clog your engine with cholesterol? so to answer your question, no top-up needed when you change oil every 5,000 miles!

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Old 11-09-2014, 11:54 AM
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Based on two friends' experience, one a service advisor at BMW Germany and the other one a certified mechanic, do not trust BMW's interval that have been set artificially high to reduce cost of ownership. I have owned a 330d 2002 (Europe) and a 530xiT 2006 and have been replacing oil every 8,000 km (yes, 5,000 miles). I drove both close to 250,000 km without any engine issues and I intend to continue with this discipline on my X5. Clean oil is clean blood for your engine and turbo, do you want to clog your engine with cholesterol? so to answer your question, no top-up needed when you change oil every 5,000 miles!
Agree fully.
Mechanic who work on BMW have told me the same.
Must be truth to it, current 328i has 225,000 miles and used zero oil, and just as powerful as day out of shop. Last car I sold at 275,000 miles and just as smooth as newl
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:03 PM
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Hi guys:
Would you tell me what a misfire codes 1 and 5 means?
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:03 PM
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And while "BMW recommends Castrol" can be found on stickers and other marketing gimmicks, the BMW mechanics I know recommend to avoid Castrol and use Mobil instead.
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:04 PM
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Hi guys:
Would you tell me what a misfire codes 1 and 5 means?
I'm Driving a 2009 BMW X5 3.0
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:51 AM
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And while "BMW recommends Castrol" can be found on stickers and other marketing gimmicks, the BMW mechanics I know recommend to avoid Castrol and use Mobil instead.
Great...bad news! So what Mobil 1?? I am limited on what I can get, but I do use Mobil 1 in my other car.
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