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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:41 AM
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Except that it's not. It doesn't ruin the 3 Series. In fact, the new 328i is a blast to drive in any trim, not just Sport. Lest you think that loping off two cylinders has neutered the 3, consider the numbers. Our eight-speed automatic-equipped tester blew through 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and ran down the quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds at 97.8 mph. BMW claims the turbo-four-powered 328i is actually quicker to 60 mph than the infallible E36 M3, which BMW pegs at a slow-by-today's-standards 6 seconds flat. For the record, the last E36 M3 we tested actually hit 60 mph in 5.5 seconds, but that doesn't make the new 328i any less impressive. What's more, the 328i actually pulls slightly higher g's around the skidpad than the E36 M3 at 0.90 g and 0.89 g, respectively. Not bad for the new entry-level car.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1mTeuX74s
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:42 AM
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That's fantastic!!
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:35 AM
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:43 AM
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Not bad. The difference in power compared to the n54, at least, is very apparent in the quarter mile time and trap speed.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:33 PM
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Wow is that possible?

I would expect a turbo 4 to be somewhere in the high 6 or even 7.

If it does 5.6 that is amazing! Now I really want to know what 335 can do.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:39 PM
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wow is that possible?

I would expect a turbo 4 to be somewhere in the high 6 or even 7.

If it does 5.6 that is amazing! Now i really want to know what 335 can do.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:48 PM
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Wow is that possible?

I would expect a turbo 4 to be somewhere in the high 6 or even 7.

If it does 5.6 that is amazing! Now I really want to know what 335 can do.
C&D tested the 335 at 5.3s
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:11 PM
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According to this article lap times for the 335i and 328i were the same.
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They also got 16.8mpg in their 150 miles trip.

Way to go 4 cyl.!
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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They also got 16.8mpg in their 150 miles trip.

Way to go 4 cyl.!
Well what do you expect for 150 miles of hard driving, as they clearly state. They did manage 30.6 MPG on the highway @ 80 mile per hour...
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C&D tested the 335 at 5.3s
That is disappointing.

Than what's the point of getting the 335 if it's only .3 sec faster
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:03 PM
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They also got 16.8mpg in their 150 miles trip.

Way to go 4 cyl.!
What do you expect on a car that was beat on and constantly in the boost?

You would be out of your mind to think that the N52 wouldn't return worse MPG for the kind of abuse they have put this N20 thru
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Wow is that possible?

I would expect a turbo 4 to be somewhere in the high 6 or even 7.

If it does 5.6 that is amazing! Now I really want to know what 335 can do.
BMW brochure states 5.7 with the manual and 5.9 with the auto for the 328. The 335 is 5.4 for both.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:28 PM
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They also got 16.8mpg in their 150 miles trip.

Way to go 4 cyl.!


wow dude, you just love hating on the N20
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Its so funny how everyone is caught up by the numbers. I find it very hard to believe that anyone is going to complain about driving either car, unless you are taking it to the track. And if so, how good of driver are you?

I loved every bit of my N54 335i and I know the N55 is different, but if its even close then I am really going to enjoy my car.

We could all get dodge charger R/T pluses and have faster 0-60 times, but what kind of fun would that be?

BMW engineers excellence and if you cannot appreciate it then ask yourself if you want a BMW or something else. I can tell you that I would be happier in a BMW 328i than a dodge charger R/T, Camaro SS, or Mustang GT. Its not all about power, its about how the package is put together.

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Its so funny how everyone is caught up by the numbers. I find it very hard to believe that anyone is going to complain about driving either car, unless you are taking it to the track. And if so, how good of driver are you?

I loved every bit of my N54 335i and I know the N55 is different, but if its even close then I am really going to enjoy my car.

We could all get dodge charger R/T pluses and have faster 0-60 times, but what kind of fun would that be?

BMW engineers excellence and if you cannot appreciate it then ask yourself if you want a BMW or something else. I can tell you that I would be happier in a BMW 328i than a dodge charger R/T, Camaro SS, or Mustang GT. Its not all about power, its about how the package is put together.

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+1 I had my oil changed this morning so I was checking out the 2012's. They are beautiful.
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They also got 16.8mpg in their 150 miles trip.

Way to go 4 cyl.!
Quote "For example, the 328i is rated at a seriously impressive 24 mpg city and 36 mpg highway. Cruising on the highway at 75-80 mph for 300 miles, our tester returned 30.6 mpg. On a hard-driving, canyon-carving, 150-mile test loop, it managed 16.8 mpg. Now take a look at the E36's numbers: 17 mpg city and 26 mpg highway per the EPA, which you know would be out of reach for us lead-footed journalists. Check out the 2011 328i and you'll see it's only rated for 18 mpg city and 28 mpg highway. And it makes less power. Any way you cut it, this new 328i is some car."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1mVbW4RRL

And you must have missed this too, quote "What the numbers don't tell you is just how good it is to drive. There are more than a few cars out there that put down big numbers but aren't all that great to drive."

Another one sulking

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wow dude, you just love hating on the N20
It's not just the N20. A good case study would be to determine what percentage of it's posts are either argumentative, pessimistic, or just plain obstinate.

I'm guessing 85%, but that may be too low.
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Hrmm... another (+) in the auto-tranni column assuming they weren't doing a brake-stand to get that value.

The C&D tester's hand-written notes for their fastest 0-60 run (which was slower than this report btw) in a 328i manual was something to the effect of 'rev the engine to 5K then step off [dump] the clutch'. Ya, like many owners are going to do that much if ever.

But now, if this is achieved w/the auto tranni w/o needing to do a brake-stand ... well, that's impressive.
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Hrmm... another (+) in the auto-tranni column assuming they weren't doing a brake-stand to get that value.

The C&D tester's hand-written notes for their fastest 0-60 run (which was slower than this report btw) in a 328i manual was something to the effect of 'rev the engine to 5K then step off [dump] the clutch'. Ya, like many owners are going to do that much if ever.

But now, if this is achieved w/the auto tranni w/o needing to do a brake-stand ... well, that's impressive.
Car magazines do whatever is needed to get the best test results. They probably figured out the optimal rpm's for the best time and brake torqued until these were reached. Then they released the brake and floored the accelerator. These times are usually done on a drag strip or test track under optimal conditions (weather, traction). They are not easily duplicated by an ordinary driver.
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C&D tested the 335 at 5.3s
That was a manual trans., I wonder what they would get with the new eight speed auto? It seems competitive with the manual in speed runs now.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:09 AM
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That was a manual trans., I wonder what they would get with the new eight speed auto? It seems competitive with the manual in speed runs now.
correct, historically manuals can achieve faster 0-60 times than autos(not DCT)...should be interesting what a 335 auto tests out as well as a 328 manual
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30.6mpg @ 80MPH is not that impressive and a far cry from the 36mpg. I'm not sure people didn't see that with the N52 E90. It's better than my N54 335i, but not by very much. I can do about 28.7MPG @ 80MPH in my N54 E90.

Of course the engine may do better once fully broken in but probably not 36 @ 80. The 36 is probably at 55 or something that no one really drives.
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30.6mpg @ 80MPH is not that impressive and a far cry from the 36mpg. I'm not sure people didn't see that with the N52 E90. It's better than my N54 335i, but not by very much. I can do about 28.7MPG @ 80MPH in my N54 E90.

Of course the engine may do better once fully broken in but probably not 36 @ 80. The 36 is probably at 55 or something that no one really drives.
That does seem low. My 328 e90 gets 31 mpg at 75 mph on long trips but at 70 mph 33 and at 80 about 29.
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John,

I can't comment on your experiences, but let's remember they are using a computer readout, on an unbroken in engine, and who knows how they were truly driving.

I will say that I've been able to consistently hit or exceed EPA highway estimates nowadays at real-world speeds of 70mph averages. Usually without using cruise control either. In all modern cars I've driven.
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