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Old 08-14-2013, 12:28 AM
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Does radar allowed in Europe, please advice.

Guys,

Heading for ED in a week. Thinking about to bring radar with me but now sure what is European rules. Planing to drive via Germany, Swiss, Italy and France.

Please advice.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:48 AM
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No idea if USA units work in Europe. Other than once in Switzerland, I've never seen mobile radar used in Germany or Switzerland. Its fixed and any decent gps will warn you.

Get a speeding fine in Switzerland and you'll quickly answer you're question, follow traffic, don't lead. Go enough over and you may be walking home. Enough starts at 10 kpm over. Getting your car back is not fast.

If this is your first time in Germany or Switzerland, speed limits change constantly. The road, towns and quiet areas cause frequent speed limit changes even on highways. Keep your eyes alert to the signs and know how to read them if you plan on pushing the limits.
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:46 AM
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Re: Does radar allowed in Europe, please advice.

Radar detectors are illegal in Europe. In Germany to the tune of losing your license by maxing your points on just that stop. I live here, trust me don't do it. For a tourist you obviously can't lose a German license you don't have but they can fine the hell out of you.

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Old 08-14-2013, 08:02 AM
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Don't do it, as somebody else mentioned it is illegal with huge fines. They might also not work well anyway. Get your speed rush on the German Autobahn (no speed limit in a lot of sections) and follow the speed limit on the other roads. Especially Switzerland is very expensive and the automated ones in town fire up pretty quick (e.g. going 55 rather then 50 will trigger them, don't ask how I know).
I like wazze for my GPS system because it tends to warn you about radar traps. You will need a data connection though (I have unlimited international grandfathered on my iphone). But even with wazze I go within reason. In Germany the fines are still relative low if you stay 20km or below over the posted speed limit. I tend to drive 120 instead of 100 especially when driving to my mother on a well built out road.

My rule for Switzerland is to just put in cruise control and follow the posted limit.

Just to give you an idea.

Germany 16-20 km/h faster then allowed outside town : 30 Euro
Switzerland (same) : 240 CHF (Autobahn 180 CFH)
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:26 AM
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This link gives you the rules of the road for each country, including whether radar detectors are illegal (seems they generally are). It may even be illegal to have a GPS showing the location of speed cameras! (France)

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...touringtipspdf

Keep in mind that each country has default speed limits (for example, 50 km/h in towns, 100 km/h outside towns, and 130 km/h on motorways), and these generally aren't posted; speed limits are only posted when the default speed limits don't apply. A sign giving the name of a town also means the town speed limit applies (in effect until you see another town name sign with a slash through it).
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:24 AM
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Well, it´s better not to bring the Radar with you. F30JoJo is totally right, those gadgets are illegal in Germany and Austria as well. If one use them here and will get a routine control by the Police, the fine is really high!!
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:39 AM
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Radar detectors are illegal in Europe. In Germany to the tune of losing your license by maxing your points on just that stop. I live here, trust me don't do it. For a tourist you obviously can't lose a German license you don't have but they can fine the hell out of you....
No need to exaggerate. The penalty is 75 euros, 4 points and possible confiscation of the radar detector, see for example. You would need to pack two detectors and lose both to rack up 8 points and have to walk, assuming you drive on a German license.

The fine may be doubled and due immediately if you are not resident. (I wouldn't know.) Penalties outside Germany are often higher.

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Old 08-15-2013, 10:24 AM
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This link gives you the rules of the road for each country, including whether radar detectors are illegal (seems they generally are). It may even be illegal to have a GPS showing the location of speed cameras! (France)

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...touringtipspdf.
In France and Switzerland it is definitely illegal to have speed camera warnings and locations on any device, they will fine you and can confiscate device. I have Nav system on my AH3 but also brought my Nokia 808 cell which I used for photos and had the Nokia maps installed for all 6 countrries I visited, this came in handy while walking around Venice, Paris etc. I deleted the speed camera locations files from the maps just to be safe as I used the phone to shoot HD video mounted on the dash and didn't want any problems.
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