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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 03-04-2012, 12:15 PM
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headlight/High beam issue

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When I turn the engine on, the daytime running lights do not come on.
when I select the headlight switch to on, the lowbeams come on, and the fog/driving lights come on if selected. if I shut the car off with the headlights on, there is no buzzer.
If I flick the switch to high beam, the fog/driving lights shut off, the high beam indicator in the dash lights, but the headlights stay on low...

I think the headlight switch is ok (it turns them on and off, but there is no buzzer)
I think the hi/lo switch is ok, when I select to hi, the fog lights shut off, and the dash hi indicator lights up

The low beam relay should drop out when the highbeams are selected, and the high beam relay should close...but the low stays in, and the high doesn't close...I have pulled the low beam relay, and switched it for similar, it appears to be working, I bought a new high beam relay (with daytime running lights), thinking that was the issue, $170 later, still no high beams....

Any other ideas? any help would be much appreciated

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Old 03-15-2012, 10:33 AM
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:43 AM
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Did you read my answer to your other post on this same issue?
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:00 AM
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Didn't you post essentially the same question in another thread? And didn't I reply that it was most likely the switch itself? They start coming apart internally when the wonderful German plastic begins breaking down. The little pieces of plastic then force some contacts closed, and won't allow others to make contact. I've had two of them do that. The first time I had parked the car one evening, shut everything off, came in the house, looked back, and the headlights were on again. Just the headlights. The switch felt odd when I tried to turn it off again (it had sprung backwards about half a position). I took it apart and sure enough, the detent ring (white-ish plastic) was broken all to pieces. Replaced the switch with a used spare, about 6 months later it did the same thing. This time only one headlight would work. Bought a new switch from Pelican Parts, all has been good since.

Edit: this is why you shouldn't shotgun the same question in multiple locations on a forum.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:03 AM
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My other thread was titled relay compatibity, as i thought that was the problem, it appears it isn't....I assumed the switch was ok, as the lights do come one and off, just the highbeams don't come on...the dimmer works, or so i thought, because the high beam icon lights up, so there is closing of that circuit..
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:11 AM
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Did you read my answer to your other post on this same issue?
I did read of your reference to the maxbimmer site, and gave it a cursory look, I'll go again, and look a little deeper...
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:27 AM
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My apologies, I didn't realize I was "shotgunning" the same issue, one post had to do with the car after an accident, one was the compatibility of a relay, and this post, describing the headlight issue.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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FYI: The fog lights are designed to turn off when the high beams are engaged. That is how virtually all cars with fog lights are designed.
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FYI: The fog lights are designed to turn off when the high beams are engaged. That is how virtually all cars with fog lights are designed.
assuming they're factory or properly installed aftermarket.

Sidenote: this is a good indication of whether the ass in the oncoming lane is driving with his brights in my face or if he's just got annoyingly bright/misaimed low beams. If his fogs are on likely his low beams are.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:42 PM
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FYI: The fog lights are designed to turn off when the high beams are engaged. That is how virtually all cars with fog lights are designed.
In my description, when i describe the foglights turning off, it was in support of the switch being ok, as the fog lights do turn off, not an indication that something was wrong....
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:13 PM
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i just bought a new switch from BMW $68.09.
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