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Old 03-08-2012, 10:52 AM
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Permanent discoloration of Oyster Leather

I am seeking some advice from the real experts - all of you.
I have a 750 with Oyster interior and the drivers seat, center armrest and door panel insert all took a distinct blue discoloration that originated from my winter coat. It's Chicago so ...
I tried without any success to remove the color and so took the car to the dealer for inspection.
Their response: yes, this happens, problem with Oyster, they would try to clean it but if that did not work they would dye the leather.
The car was booked in, they claimed cleaning was attempted but the seats needed to be dyed.
$125, two visits to the dealer and one discarded winter coat later the seats looked better.
Two weeks on and the discoloration is starting to grin through again. I would say the dye is wearing off.
I don't know about you but dye transfer I understand. That the transfer is permanent I have a tough time with especially on a car costing over $100k.
Should I accept that I pay to restore the seats or is this not in reality a problem with the original finish on the seat?
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:09 AM
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I am seeking some advice from the real experts - all of you.
I have a 750 with Oyster interior and the drivers seat, center armrest and door panel insert all took a distinct blue discoloration that originated from my winter coat. It's Chicago so ...
I tried without any success to remove the color and so took the car to the dealer for inspection.
Their response: yes, this happens, problem with Oyster, they would try to clean it but if that did not work they would dye the leather.
The car was booked in, they claimed cleaning was attempted but the seats needed to be dyed.
$125, two visits to the dealer and one discarded winter coat later the seats looked better.
Two weeks on and the discoloration is starting to grin through again. I would say the dye is wearing off.
I don't know about you but dye transfer I understand. That the transfer is permanent I have a tough time with especially on a car costing over $100k.
Should I accept that I pay to restore the seats or is this not in reality a problem with the original finish on the seat?
I haven't had any problems with dye transfer. Nappa is still a coated leather, but it is a clear coating. The coating should prevent dye transfer. I have a protectant on my leather so the dye doesn't touch the leather itself.

I think you should find a leather specialist to clean it or a high end detailer. They may be able to get the dye off the coating with steam cleaning, or more sophisticated cleaning products.

If you go for color restoration, I know Swissvax has some great products for color restoration they custom mix it for each car.

I do however think the dealer may not be the best detailer to deal with this.
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Old 03-08-2012, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for your input. My assumption was that the leather was treated.
The dealer brings in a "specialist" to look at such problems and this was what happened here. They have already applied a restoration treatment that looks to me to be coming off already so it may be too late for cleaning. My concern is that the leather was not treated properly from the beginning.
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:39 PM
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the leather is coated with plastic to help it retain it's tanning oils and such for longevity. Dye can get past this coating in some instances and it's not that hard to get out. Use a good cleaner like Leatherique's Pristine Clean and Rejuvenator oil and it should come right out!
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:28 AM
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I would contact George or someone at leatherique lrpltd@bellsouth.net

He will tell you how the dealership or the "specialist" they brought in screwed up. Then he should be able to tell you how to fix it.

For future reference on anyone with blue jean or other fabrics that will dye your leather, Leather masters makes a wide range of specialized cleaning products:

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Leath...ter_c_113.html

Super remover should work if the strong cleaner will not:

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Leath...ver_p_294.html

I picked up some the other day, but have not found a clients car that needs it yet.

Normally I use the strong cleaner and protective cream. Strong cleaner, I dilute by using it with a damper sponge. IOW if the leather just needs a light cleaning, I use a damper (more water) sponge.

I gave our cinnamon interior on the GT a going over with protective cream in the parking garage of the Welt.
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:50 AM
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I would look for a high-end detailer, or pursue the leathermasters/leatherique recommendations which are sound.

The 'specialists' that work in the automotive remarketing industry (IE: used car industry) generally half-ass dye the leather cheap and fast, which is a temporary solution. The 'dye' they use smells like laquer paint to me....
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:24 PM
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That white interior looks awesome, especially on a black vehicle, but I've heard owners of various manufacturers of vehicles with white leather make the same complaints about jeans leaving blue stains on the leather and their difficulties in removing it. I gave some thought to getting the white interior but decided against it since I knew I'd end strangling one of my passengers had they ever spilled anything on it. Hope it comes out for you.
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