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Old 03-10-2012, 08:59 PM
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sport and sport plus...differences?

Sport and sport plus.....
what exactly are the differences?!
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:15 PM
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I believe Sports + turns off the traction control to give the driver more "input" over controls by the computer. Personally I haven't tried it.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:35 PM
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Sport leaves the DSC (stability and traction) on fully and Sport+ turns off the DSC (stability control) but leaves the DTC (traction control) on. There is less computer intervention in Sport +, in the case of lateral traction loss when cornering. It still intervenes when you lose traction forward, like when accelerating. The car should tell you what happens when you toggle to Sport +. Something along the lines of, "Sport Oriented Chassis and Drivetrain, DTC Active"

To fully turn the DSC off (stability and traction) you must press and hold the DSC button (looks like a car with squiggly tire marks below it)

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Old 03-10-2012, 11:52 PM
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I want to say that Sport+ also tightens the steering even further, or at least that's how it appears to me.

I have my car configured to have Sport adjust the chassis, but not drivetrain. I leave that for Sport+. That way I can have a firmer ride without affecting the engine/transmission to save fuel in city traffic.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:15 AM
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Sport leaves the DSC (stability and traction) on fully and Sport+ turns off the DSC (stability control) but leaves the DTC (traction control) on. There is less computer intervention in Sport +, in the case of lateral traction loss when cornering. It still intervenes when you lose traction forward, like when accelerating. The car should tell you what happens when you toggle to Sport +. Something along the lines of, "Sport Oriented Chassis and Drivetrain, DTC Active"

To fully turn the DSC off (stability and traction) you must press and hold the DSC button (looks like a car with squiggly tire marks below it)

Hope this helps.

From my experience in the snow, I thought turning off DSC allowed for more slippage in the forward direction too.
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Yes... Well DTC is just a subsystem of DSC. DSC is also used to describe the system as a whole. With DSC fully active, you get the lateral and forward stability/traction. With DSC off (the first part of it), you still have the DTC active for forward traction. Then you can also disable the whole system with a long press of the button.

Default= DSC active (DSC + DTC)

Single button press= DSC disabled, DTC active

Long button press= DSC disabled (no DSC and no DTC)

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Single button press= DSC disabled, DTC active
I use this mode in the snow, for both off my Bimmers. It allows for more wheel slippage, else my RWD would never climb my driveway in the snow.

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I want to say that Sport+ also tightens the steering even further, or at least that's how it appears to me.

I have my car configured to have Sport adjust the chassis, but not drivetrain. I leave that for Sport+. That way I can have a firmer ride without affecting the engine/transmission to save fuel in city traffic.
Excellent idea, I'm in LA and the gas price is hitting close to $5/gallon.
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I have my car configured to have Sport adjust the chassis, but not drivetrain. I leave that for Sport+. That way I can have a firmer ride without affecting the engine/transmission to save fuel in city traffic.

Ditto
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wdimagineer :
I want to say that Sport+ also tightens the steering even further, or at least that's how it appears to me.

5serieshb: perfect answer...already did it
nice option and smart move on ur part! $$$$$ already!


ps wich one would be the absolute tightest and stiffest handling option for the car....Sport?
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I want to say that Sport+ also tightens the steering even further, or at least that's how it appears to me.

I have my car configured to have Sport adjust the chassis, but not drivetrain. I leave that for Sport+. That way I can have a firmer ride without affecting the engine/transmission to save fuel in city traffic.
Good idea! I'm going to change mine also
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This is one complaint I have about "sport" mode for the drivetrain. It's too aggressive. With the 8 speed auto looking to upshift at every opportunity, there needs to be one or two intermediate steps between them.
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This is one complaint I have about "sport" mode for the drivetrain. It's too aggressive. With the 8 speed auto looking to upshift at every opportunity, there needs to be one or two intermediate steps between them.
Well, it's perfect for us with 6 spd manuals . Wouldn't give up that increased throttle response for a few bucks. I balance the increased fuel consumption by using eco pro on the highways (after merging!) as I usually drive against the flow of traffic.
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