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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 03-12-2012, 01:44 PM
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Question Why does everyone here have diesels?

As a new member please enlighten me
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:04 PM
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I got the diesel because of the mileage.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:05 PM
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The big factor for me was MPG. I get 22 (70% hwy/30% city) and 24 Hwy running 73 MPH (west TX troopers don't give breaks). In my 2007 Tahoe I was doing good to hit 17 MPG. The D also has great low end torque and passes very well. Aside from the fact it's in the shop right now, I love my D.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:08 PM
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but diesel is more per gallon.

does the math work out cheaper for diesel still?
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:10 PM
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Most Bimmer's require/recommend premium. When you compare diesel to premium, there's not much difference.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:13 PM
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Short answer: Because I drove the gas version and didn't like it.

Long answer: When the wife came due for a new vehicle she had some decisions to make. I wanted her to get a car since we've had an SUV for the last seven years. She drove several and decided that she is not ready to move away from an SUV just yet eventhough the kids are out of strollers.

It needed to be big enough to be safe and useful but we also wanted it to get better mileage than the POS GMC Acadia that we were leasing. The X5 is not as big as I would like but it is easier to get around town in, parking, etc. It needed to be able to act as the family mule for vacations. It needed to tow my boat (4,100 lbs boat&trailer). It is not my main tow vechicle but it will get me and my family to the lake in style and comfort and go twice as far on the same amount of fuel as my crewcab.

For us, it matches our driving style. It is a chugger with great acceleration through out the power curve. We are not aggressive or high rpm drivers. It does everything well and gets decent mileage to boot. I am seeing approx. 25% better mileage than our previous vehicle and the 35d is much more fun to drive. I expect that to get even better since we only have about 1700 miles so far. If the car holds together, and it should, I expect my kids to be driving it in 10 years.

I will add a roof rack, cargo box, and trailer hitch in coming months in and effort to maximize utility/activity.

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Old 03-12-2012, 02:15 PM
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Diesel has to cost 55 cents more per gallon than Premium gas (required on X5), before MPG advantage of diesel stops.
Right now, diesel is $0.17 nore than Premium gas in my area. I have never seen diesel higher than 20 cents over premium.
Also, the low-end torque will always be there.

That being said, I don't know if I would have chosen the diesel over gasser if it wasn't for the $3,500 diesel credit.

Perhaps those who bought 2012 diesels can talk about their reasons.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:38 PM
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I am getting diesel for about the same price as mid grade gas here right now.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:41 PM
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For me I wanted something different, majority of my mileage is interstate driving, the diesel
excels in that department, no kickdown of the trans necessary to pass or going up hills due to the tremendous torque, plus I can easily get 26-27mpg mpg not even trying at 80 mph speeds.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:53 PM
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Premium gas (required on X5)

Not in my 2008 gas X5 manual.

It merely says 91 is "highly recommended" and makes a specific point the car will function fine on 87

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Old 03-12-2012, 03:12 PM
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Welcome to Bfest OP! Glad to have you here

Some reasons for the diesel

1. better MPG
2. better power delivery than the base 35i engine. Most usable around town and on the highway
3. wanted to be different
4. TORQUE!
5. Sound under throttle
6. most bulletproof powertrain out of the three new LCI models (with the 35i being the most unreliable, and the 50i somewhere in the middle)
7. higher residuals than both petrol models
8. always wanted a diesel SUV (I sold a Jetta TDI for this)
9. diesels are better than petrol engines
10. cruising range (500+ miles)
11. 8 speed box in the 35i is annoying because it is constantly kicking down on the highway. Diesel doesn't need to
12. diesel costs as much as 91 here


And finally, most people here have diesels because it's just something diff't. I remember everyone was shouting for a diesel E53 and BMW never brought it. So when the E70 came out, it finally came. Honestly, the 35d suits the X5 better than both gas engines IMO. Hell, I'd rather own a diesel X5/Q7/ML than the high performance models (X5 M/ML63 AMG)

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Old 03-12-2012, 03:13 PM
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Not in my 2008 gas X5 manual.

It merely says 91 is "highly recommended" and makes a specific point the car will function fine on 87
You drive a $50k+ BMW, not a Toyota. These engines are high performance with high compression ratios, etc. You will get the best performance and MPG with 91+ octane
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:19 PM
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:23 PM
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but diesel is more per gallon.

does the math work out cheaper for diesel still?
Yes, it does actually. Check out this simple EPA estimate. Look at the costs to drive. Diesel is less

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Old 03-12-2012, 03:23 PM
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You drive a $50k+ BMW, not a Toyota. These engines are high performance with high compression ratios, etc. You will get the best performance and MPG with 91+ octane

If I had the twin turbos I would definitlely use premium
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:26 PM
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How I miss living near farm diesel

(note: not that I ever used it in a road vehicle as that would be illegal ).
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:54 PM
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Easy, I tow with mine.....
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:55 PM
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I got the diesel cause I like diesel motors.

"Why does everyone have diesels?" They don't, but diesel owners are probably more highly represented in these forums.

You might be able to use 87 octane, but it is a false economy! you will get worse mileage with lower octane, much closer to a wash than the price per gallon indicates. At $4 a gallon, a few % better mileage and a few % more cost...
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:25 PM
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I have a '12 X5 35i. My prior truck was a 2010 Touareg TDI. I race a '63 MGB with a dry weight of 1800 lbs. I tow this car to races around the midwest in an 18 foot covered v-nose trailer which weighs about 2200 lbs unloaded. Tools, fuel, tires , EZ-Up etc and passengers add 400 lbs or so. I just returned from towing the car and trailer to Cortez, Colorado from Iowa for some suspension upgrades combined with a ski trip. The BMW towed this brilliantly even into a 30 mph headwind and through the mountains. This is a better tow car than the Touareg, and I do not need, or miss, the diesel. It will run on 87 octane fuel but needs 91 to develop full power. I was concerned with all of the niggling reliability issues with the X5 diesel, at least when I last looked at this issue in 2010. So, my vote is for the gasser.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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I don't have a diesel, but I still hang out most days. X5's are mostly the same everywhere except for the three engine options.

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If I had the twin turbos I would definitlely use premium
You should be using mid-grade. Even though you don't have turbos you still need to be using mid-grade. Anything less can severely tarnish the engine. Ask any BMW tech.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:37 PM
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You should be using mid-grade. Even though you don't have turbos you still need to be using mid-grade. Anything less can severely tarnish the engine. Ask any BMW tech.
This is B.S.

Severely tarnish the engine?

Give me a break

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What about the manual LOL
Manual has nothing to do about it. Only thing manual does is change how it shifts. The engine is the same regardless. The only thing that changes is the transmission fluid that is used.
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This is B.S.

Severely tarnish the engine?

Give me a break
Have you ever seen inside of an engine that has not been taken care of? It looks like ****. Fuel is just as important as oil. You wouldn't use a crude oil in a BMW when it calls for 100% synthetic so why use a low grade fuel when it calls for mid-grade and higher.

True ignorance in my book.
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so why use a low grade fuel when it calls for mid-grade and higher.

True ignorance in my book.


But it doesn't call for mid grade or higher though!!!


You might think I am ignorant based on this newbish type thread, but I am on the Big Bob Oil forum, and I probably know a lot more about gas than you.

You are talking crazy talk.

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