What price did you get? 2012 535i

Originally Posted by mrfken

I just ordered my 2012 535i and got the MSRP less the Euro delivery difference ($3625).

very nice!

and good luck with with everything!

No I'm not. It was just an easy way to bargain for a discount. Based on other replies I've seen in this thread though, it looks like I should have started lower. I have read that with a Euro delivery, there is no quota attributed to the local dealer and so it's easier to go for a bigger discount.

The 535i M Sport I ordered had an MSRP of $64,720. I paid $59,300. I think that's about 8% off MSRP. What do you guys (gals) think????

2012 Alpine White, M Sport Package, Premium Package, Tech Package, Comfort Package, Premium Sound, Ceramic Controls -- paid invoice! Took three days of negotiating and executed the deal last day of the month. I called/emails dealerships within 600 miles of my location. If you are patient enough you can get your price, to a certain point. Every dealer gets $1260 regardless of selling price.

With Nav and Financing credit I paid $59,700 for my $66,025 MSRP 535i

wow.. everyone is getting great deal.

I guess I didn't really play hard ball. Just offered $59K for $62,145 MSRP and they accepted. I guess I should have offered invoice (think around $58.2)

Oh.. I didn't take the financing credit cause I went with BofA instead.

That's why this forum is awesome. The only thing is to read before you buy not after. Looking at the deals members have gotten and getting connections for Account Managers at different dealers, you can't go wrong and you can't go much more over invoice.

Hi everyone,

I have a leased 2009 535i that has only 2 payments left. The next payment is Tuesday, so when I received an offer via the pull forward program where if I lease or buy a new BMW, BMWFS will waive my last 2 payments (saving me around $1100).

I went in to my dealer today, and he made me this offer on a 2012 535i.

Space Grey Metallic with Black Dakota Leather
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Sport Package
Technology Package
Steptronic Auto Transmission
Satellite Radio with 1 year subscription
BMW Apps

Net Total = 62,550
Destination Charge = 895
Total MSRP = 63,445

Discount = 1,450
Sale Price = 61,995
Rebate = 1,500
Advanced Payments = 874.60
Upfront Charges = 45.00
Total Cap Reduction = 1,500
Due On Delivery = 919.60


36 month lease @ .00185 with $1500 rebate for 12,000 miles per annum.

Deposit--- Monthly Amount
$2800----- $852.11
$3800----- $821.58
$4800----- $791.05

The car is at the VPC (or will arrive there tomorrow), so they said that they could arrange the deal and I would pick it up when it comes in.

They have a nice 528i in stock, and he made me a similar offer on that.

2012 BMW 528i
Carbon Black Metallic with Black Nappa Leather
M Sport Package
Premium Package
Technology Package
Sport Automatic Transmission with Shift Peddles
Heated front seats
Satellite Radio with 1 year subscription
BMW Apps
Total 58.750
Destination Charge 875
MSRP 59,625

Discount - 1,500
Sale Price - 58,125
Total Rebates - 1,500
Advanced Payments - 817.71
Upfront Charges - 45.00
Total Cap Reduction - 1,500
Due on Delivery - 862.71

36 month lease @ .00185 with $1500 rebate for 12,000 miles per annum.

Deposit--- Monthly Amount
$2800----- $758.56
$3800----- $728.03
$4800----- $697.51

I haven't haggled with them yet, as I was running late for an appointment, but looking at what you are getting, I don't seem to be getting anywhere as good a deal as you folks

Oh, and I tried to get a figure on my car. Residual is 36,700, and they told me that they were unable to give me a lower price on that. I don't believe that to be entirely accurate either!

Given the figures above, and your buying experiences so far, what would you reckon would be a proper counter offer from my side? Or, should I wait until my lease is up in May and hope that they have better deals then?

Thanks!!

My father went with me yesterday when I went to sign the paperwork on my Performance Center Delivery 135i. He fell in love with a Cashmere Silver 528i at the dealership and went back today and bought it. The MSRP was $54,145. Invoice was $49,830. Out the door price including taxes, fees, etc. was $51,000.

Question did the dealer offer to pull your car ahead or was that a marketing letter from BMW? makes a difference ... for the pull ahead the dealer has to BUY your car.... they can't send it back to BMW so they have to WANT YOUR CAR to put on their lot. If they don't want your car.. no pull-ahead.

Bottom line is how much over invoice are you getting car for that's what I want to know? FORGET ABOUT including the rebate.

Originally Posted by Greg@Pacific BMW

Question did the dealer offer to pull your car ahead or was that a marketing letter from BMW? makes a difference ... for the pull ahead the dealer has to BUY your car.... they can't send it back to BMW so they have to WANT YOUR CAR to put on their lot. If they don't want your car.. no pull-ahead.

Bottom line is how much over invoice are you getting car for that's what I want to know? FORGET ABOUT including the rebate.

Greg, it was actually both. I received a marketing letter from BMW, but when I went to the dealer, they said the same thing. They even told me that my next payment was due in 6 days, and that if they could make me a deal before then, I would save money.

With respect to price over invoice, how do I determine the invoice price? After reading what you had written, I realized that the rebate comes from BMW and shouldn't be part of the negotiation with the dealer.

Thanks Greg!

Originally Posted by terrapen73

My father went with me yesterday when I went to sign the paperwork on my Performance Center Delivery 135i. He fell in love with a Cashmere Silver 528i at the dealership and went back today and bought it. The MSRP was $54,145. Invoice was $49,830. Out the door price including taxes, fees, etc. was $51,000.

terrapen73, that was a pretty good deal - the more I read here, the more I realize that the deal I was offered wasn't as sweet a deal as they made it out to be!

Thanks for sharing the details of your experience! May I ask which dealership your father bought it from?

Thanks!!

Originally Posted by glzq

Greg, it was actually both. I received a marketing letter from BMW, but when I went to the dealer, they said the same thing. They even told me that my next payment was due in 6 days, and that if they could make me a deal before then, I would save money.

With respect to price over invoice, how do I determine the invoice price? After reading what you had written, I realized that the rebate comes from BMW and shouldn't be part of the negotiation with the dealer.

Thanks Greg!

Always negotiate price above invoice of the car you are buying first. Then add in all deals, rebates, etc

Does "invoice" include Destination charge ($895), MACO ($400) and training/service fees ($180)? I understood that it did NOT (or maybe only Destination is included), but I have a dealer saying all 3 are included. And they want 2.5% mark-up over their definition of invoice. I'm reaching out to other dealers, but this is the first quote I've received and they're not willing to budge.

Based on other reponses, it appears this dealer is way above the going market rate.

Comments?

Originally Posted by glzq

terrapen73, that was a pretty good deal - the more I read here, the more I realize that the deal I was offered wasn't as sweet a deal as they made it out to be!

Thanks for sharing the details of your experience! May I ask which dealership your father bought it from?

Thanks!!

We went to Sale BMW in Kinston, NC. I have used them for about 12 years now and would highly recommend them to anyone interested in getting a car or that needs service. Gene Hasse is the salesman there I deal with.

This should clear up any confusion about invoice cost.


Net Total 61,820.00 67,325.00
Destination Charge 895.00 895.00
Gas Guzzler Tax N/C N/C
MACO 380.00 N/C
Training/Service Fee 180.00 N/C
Total Suggested Price 63,275.00 68,220.00

Originally Posted by Greg@Pacific BMW

This should clear up any confusion about invoice cost.


Net Total 61,820.00 67,325.00
Destination Charge 895.00 895.00
Gas Guzzler Tax N/C N/C
MACO 380.00 N/C
Training/Service Fee 180.00 N/C
Total Suggested Price 63,275.00 68,220.00

Thanks, Greg. Just to confirm my understanding then (sorry to be anal), the "invoice" amount is the $63,275?

yes :-)