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Old 08-20-2015, 05:56 PM
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oh great, NOT ANOTHER ONE! 2007 328xi pre purchase post

Hey guys,

First off, I want to thank all of you that have put in the time to share your knowledge with me and the other members on this forum. Before being the typical NUB and making my first post, I spent a couple hours researching my specific questions and am amazed by how much you guys know and do to help others in need of help on here.

With that being said, I'd love to get your guys' opinion on a possible purchase I'm making tomorrow. Attached is the carfax of the one I am looking at and below are the details:

2007 BMW 328xi
111,000 miles
3 Owners
All service done at BMW dealership in timely manner ( i believe, carfax is attached for you to see)

price: $8600

Super clean inside and out , blows cold and drives well. Full nav display still in working order.

I've already planned to take the car for a PPI with an indy BMW certified mechanic before purchase tomorrow.

Are there any questions I should ask ? Is this a good price for the car?

SHOULD I PULL THE TRIGGER?

Please bless me with some of your knowledge, and feel free to remind me that I am a bmw noob while doing so. Thanks again for your help!

about me:
- will be a first time BMW owner
- not very technically inclined though open to trying DIY
- first child on the way, want a nice upgrade and something safer
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:33 PM
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anything?
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:22 AM
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So many issues that can be wrong at 111k miles. $8600 not bad but that is also the potential cost of a couple repairs if you don't know how to DIY. I would at least make sure the waterpump was replaced and the Eccentric Shaft Sensor. I wouldn't buy a BMW with 111k miles for $5K and I do DIY a lot of my stuff.

about me:
- will be a first time BMW owner...GET A NEWER CPO Model
- not very technically inclined though open to trying DIY...Gotta be able to do at least brakes and oil (not super hard to learn either).
- first child on the way, want a nice upgrade and something safer...They do take a licking (mine rear ended hard twice). As soon as someone sees you in your BMW they will accelerate as fast as they can right into you with their KIA or Hyundai. My repair bill was $26K for a rear end accident.

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Old 08-21-2015, 04:24 AM
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- first child on the way, want a nice upgrade and something safer
BMWs can be nice and they aren't particularly unsafe, but an 8-year old 111,000 mile BMW 3-series probably wouldn't be my first choice. For one thing, BMW 3-series aren't very big and for another they tend to be fairly maintenance-intensive.

(Sitting by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck is bad enough, sitting by the side of the road waiting for a tow truck with a crying baby would be much worse.)

Statistically, many of the safest vehicles are large SUVs and minivans. If you run into me because of sleep deprivation, your chances are probably better driving one of them.

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Old 08-21-2015, 05:26 AM
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about me:
- will be a first time BMW owner...GET A NEWER CPO Model
- not very technically inclined though open to trying DIY...Gotta be able to do at least brakes and oil (not super hard to learn either).
- first child on the way, want a nice upgrade and something safer...They do take a licking (mine rear ended hard twice). As soon as someone sees you in your BMW they will accelerate as fast as they can right into you with their KIA or Hyundai. My repair bill was $26K for a rear end accident.
Why do you need to be able to do the oil? Oil change at the DEALER (of all places) for my e90 is 89.99 (sometimes 79.99 w/ CCA discount). It's typically a loss leader for them. I havent priced it out for the e90 yet, but I'm guessing to DIY the oil you're looking at 55-65 bucks. Brakes on the other hand I could totally see...
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:34 AM
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Go get a later model midsized car like a Altima, Fusion, or Accord build after 2012 and will have all the electronic stability controls, traction Cont, goodies and a gazillion airbags. They are slightly larger, but no heavier, handle and perform descent.

Once the kid is a little older, go get a fun car. But you need a car that starts and runs every time you get in it, not one that might give you issues.

If you want Germans, a Jetta or Passat isn't a bad option and has less technology than a BMW.
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Old 08-21-2015, 10:35 AM
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Have any of you checked out the car fax I attached though ? What do you guys think of the price for this one ?
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:41 AM
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If you want Germans, a Jetta or Passat isn't a bad option and has less technology than a BMW.
I might be a bit off on this, based upon past experience with them, and familiarity with BMW's, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here...

I would think that Audi and VW (their cars are very similar mechanically, and many of their cars share technology and parts) labor times would be much higher than a typical BMW.

One example I recall was that on my 1998 A4, a timing belt change would necessitate removal of the entire front end, to get the engine out with enough room to change that timing belt. Comparatively, the BMW's timing chain tensioner doesn't look nearly as painful to change.

I've seen things like BMW's Oil Filter Housing Gasket shortcutted down to a 20 minute change. (probably a bit extreme for a DIY, but looks doable in an hour at least)

Overall though, things seem to look less time consuming to do/change on a BMW vs an Audi/VW.
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:43 AM
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okay guys...thanks anyways..lol
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:47 AM
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Why do you need to be able to do the oil? Oil change at the DEALER (of all places) for my e90 is 89.99 (sometimes 79.99 w/ CCA discount). It's typically a loss leader for them. I havent priced it out for the e90 yet, but I'm guessing to DIY the oil you're looking at 55-65 bucks. Brakes on the other hand I could totally see...
To clarify, it would be a good start to do those things if you want to DIY other things. Not that oil change will save you that much money. I do mine for $35.00 with Mobil 1 Oil from Walmart and Mann oil filters ordered online at $10 a pop.

For Brakes, dealer will gouge you about $600-$800 per axle vs. your labor and about $75.00 per axle for brake pads. Those are the most inexpensive repairs the dealer has for you.
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Have any of you checked out the car fax I attached though ? What do you guys think of the price for this one ?
Yep. I told you if you have a BMW someone would drive into you and hammer your nice car. "REAR END ACCIDENT" on the Car Fax (am I psychic?). Unless they put that bad boy on a BMW frame Jig to check for perfect alignment, you may not have that causing some quick tread wear. Also, I noticed that they did not change the spark plugs but cleaned and re gapped them? Huh?! Why not replace them if you have them out? Price just dropped to $3k offered.

Also, electric water pump repair, which you may be due for, $1800 at the dealer, $1000-$1200 at an INDY.

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Old 08-21-2015, 01:39 PM
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Thanks sptt144 for the info - I appreciate you checking this out for me. Currently at an Indy bmw certified mechanic for a ppi!

I'll let you guys know how it goes ! Any questions you guys think I should ask while I'm here ?
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How is the Eccentric Shaft sensor looking? Can you tell if they replaced the waterpump? Will I pass a smog test? Was the battery cable recall done for this car?
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:11 PM
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update: everything checked out besides the waterpump needing replacement & the transfer case oil change. Quoted for $1500 worth of work. Got him to go from $8600 down to $6750 in price. What do you guys think?!
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update: everything checked out besides the waterpump needing replacement & the transfer case oil change. Quoted for $1500 worth of work. Got him to go from $8600 down to $6750 in price. What do you guys think?!
Offer him $5700.00. Tell him we'll settle at $6K as coils, plugs, fuel pump issues could come up. We'll take it at $6K out the door including tax. Other wise, we got our eye on a sweet 2009 Space Grey Coupe with Red leather interior for $6700 at $89k. But you really want the Sedan for your kids not the coupe. Give me his number, I'll call him!

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Old 08-21-2015, 11:51 PM
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LOL!! i will have to try that with him first thing in the AM - will keep you posted :]
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