Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)

E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-19-2012, 02:58 PM
Jon Shafer's Avatar
Jon Shafer Jon Shafer is offline
Admin Owner Enthusiast
Bimmerfest Founder
Location: Santa Barbara
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,212
Mein Auto: E92 M3 Cp
Angry Arrrrrrr! Ignition Tumbler Failure

__________________
Order your new BMW Today! BMW SANTA BARBARA jshafer@sbautogroup.com


Serving the BMW Online Community Since 1995 The BIMMERFEST "Internet Special"
Reply With Quote
Ads by Google
  #2  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:00 PM
Eight Thirty Eight Thirty is offline
nothing.
Location: Rochester, Ny
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13,464
Mein Auto: A dream
Its not too bad of a fix.

should be up and running in no time.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:07 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,516
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
What kind of failure? They can misbehave in a couple of ways. Either way, it's a pretty easy fix, but will likely require a new one to be shipped from the Motherland.
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:17 PM
Jon Shafer's Avatar
Jon Shafer Jon Shafer is offline
Admin Owner Enthusiast
Bimmerfest Founder
Location: Santa Barbara
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,212
Mein Auto: E92 M3 Cp
Well, I went to drive home, and when I turned the key, that starter solenoid didn't engage, and there was no resistance to turning the key. Fortunately, I was parked close enough to the dealership that a Tech was able to walk over and take the bits apart and at least get the car started (so I wouldn't need a tow .1 miles). He says that I should replace the whole kit and kaboodle...

So, what parts are needed. There's the coded driveaway protection component too, right?

__________________
Order your new BMW Today! BMW SANTA BARBARA jshafer@sbautogroup.com


Serving the BMW Online Community Since 1995 The BIMMERFEST "Internet Special"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:25 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,516
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
Although it's a somewhat painful video to watch, it is helpful:



Most likely you'll just have to order a new tumbler from Germany.
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:44 PM
r33p04s's Avatar
r33p04s r33p04s is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 289
Mein Auto: E36/4/5
Ugh BMW why!!!!

Mine will spin free if I don't push the key that last fraction of a mm... I'm just waiting for the day it doesn't catch -_-
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:45 PM
ZeGerman's Avatar
ZeGerman ZeGerman is online now
Warm Leatherette
Location: Seattle, WA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 18,516
Mein Auto: 1998 BMW 328is
^Better order your tumbler now.
__________________

1998 BMW 328is
1966 Pontiac GTO
2007 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door
View my photos: Caught in the Wild
For sale: E30/E36 front sway links
For sale: OEM E36 328 catback
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-19-2012, 05:23 PM
petriej's Avatar
petriej petriej is offline
Cruising 280 Top Down
Location: San Jose, CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,088
Send a message via Skype™ to petriej
Mein Auto: '99 M3 Cab & '05 X5 4.8is
Jon your avatar is rockin!




I guess you did that on purpose. Good luck with the tumbler.
__________________

GGC BMW CCA #443004
Join the BMW CCA!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornhospital View Post
Jared, why don't you just put "It's Giubo" in your sig? Save a lot of typing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by e36 miguel View Post
this jared guy sounds intimidating lol.
2005 X5 4.8is Le Mans/Black/6spd Steptragic
1999 M3 Cabrio TiAg Metallic/Dove Grey/Black 5 Speed Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1997 328iC Schwarz II/K/K 5MT SOLD 5/2012
2004 645Ci Mineral Silver Metallic/Black 6MT RIP 04/2011
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-19-2012, 08:30 PM
r33p04s's Avatar
r33p04s r33p04s is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 289
Mein Auto: E36/4/5
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeGerman View Post
^Better order your tumbler now.
When does the parts ordering stop!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-19-2012, 09:02 PM
hornhospital's Avatar
hornhospital hornhospital is offline
D'oh, You kids!
Location: In the Grumpy Chair
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,842
Mein Auto: 1995 318is / 1993 325is
Jon, make sure it's the tumbler before ordering. The lack of resistance to turning makes me believe it's not the tumbler, but instead it's the link between the tumbler and the ignition switch. You can't order just the link, you have to buy the entire column lock assembly. They're about $130-$150, and they're a bit of a pain to replace, but do-able at home.

The EWS coding ring fits around the tumbler. You reuse it. Pelican's DIY for the Tilt Wheel retrofit has the DIY on removing and replacing the column lock assembly within the article. Just ignore the column removal and use the info on removing the security bolts, etc.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/tech...t/E36-Tilt.htm
__________________
Quotes to live by:
guessing gets expensive...drivinfaster
nothing is more expensive than a cheap BMW...c4harpe13

Ken Kanne, Silverhill, AL, E36 Forum Mod/Craigslist addict/Hoarder of all sorts of stuff
BMW-CCA #441426
1995 318is "Bebe"; 1993 325is "Elvira" 1985 635CSi "Katja" 1984 633CSi "Sylvia"
HAVE I HAD MY MEDS YET?


Last edited by hornhospital; 04-19-2012 at 09:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-19-2012, 09:35 PM
Leusent Leusent is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Canada
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 471
Mein Auto: 328is
I've read up on this a little. Replacement is easy, just pop out the old tumbler and pop in the new one. Its only /really/ difficult if the old tumbler is so broken you can't turn it to pull it out. Pulling out the old tumbler requires a bent paperclip in the small hole in the ignition.... or something like that.

Craig
__________________
Winter: 1997 DOHC I-6 2.8L 5Spd BMW 328is (2-Door)
Summer: 1992 DOHC I-4 2.0L 5Spd Toyota MR-2 Turbo (2-Seat)
Summer: 1983/1984/2007 Honda CB550SC/VF500F/CBR600RR (2-Wheel)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-19-2012, 09:45 PM
Jon Shafer's Avatar
Jon Shafer Jon Shafer is offline
Admin Owner Enthusiast
Bimmerfest Founder
Location: Santa Barbara
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 14,212
Mein Auto: E92 M3 Cp
Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
Jon your avatar is rockin!




I guess you did that on purpose. Good luck with the tumbler.




My avatar is actually the one I made especially for the Bimmerfest 2004 event. I look a little older now..
It just seemed apropos to bring it back with Bimmerfest just a month away.

Thanks for all of the great info in the follow-up posts!
__________________
Order your new BMW Today! BMW SANTA BARBARA jshafer@sbautogroup.com


Serving the BMW Online Community Since 1995 The BIMMERFEST "Internet Special"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms