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Old 03-28-2012, 07:36 PM
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2013 X3 EPA Testing

Hi all-

I placed an order for a 2013 X3 28i (will post details later)... Got notice that the car went into production this week (from the dealer because the BMWNA site doesn't list the car in the system yet).

I just got notice today that my performance center delivery can't be scheduled until the EPA completes emissions testing, etc.... A little bummed, but wondering if anybody knows anything about when that might be complete- I tried to do a quick search on the interwebs and couldn't find any information
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:01 AM
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It's funny to me that the EPA has to test the same engine that its already approved in 3 other BMW models.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:40 AM
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It's funny to me that the EPA has to test the same engine that its already approved in 3 other BMW models.
Um, pretty sure that the X3 will yield different MPG ratings than the other 3 models even though the engine is the same. Plus BMWUSA recently screwed up the MPG estimates on the 3 series so it's very likely that they are being extra careful this time to spare themselves additional embarassment.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:19 AM
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Um, pretty sure that the X3 will yield different MPG ratings than the other 3 models even though the engine is the same. Plus BMWUSA recently screwed up the MPG estimates on the 3 series so it's very likely that they are being extra careful this time to spare themselves additional embarassment.
That's true but I have read somewhere that the certification has a lot more going on than the MPG. Why they have to repeat everything is beyond me.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:57 AM
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And to make it even worse -- the (omnipotent, unaccountable) CARB has to certify it for sale in California thus adding yet another hurdle to jump over!
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:12 PM
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This should all be done now, just today got notification for scheduling of my PCD delivery, which they wouldn't do until EPA/CARB was completed.....so good news!!
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:19 AM
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New EPA numbers just released.

The EPA just recently released the mileage numbers on the X3 2.8 and didn't do BMW any favors. BMW typically understates figures like horsepower, etc. I understand they tested the 328i internally and validated the original EPA figures only to have the EPA downgrade their figures. Historically it's been the japanese mfg's who have shown to fudge their mpg numbers not the germans.

With the new EPA hwy number estimated at 25mpg, BMW will have to do some backtracking on their marketing of increased efficiency with the new engine (with all the fuel saving bells and whistles like stop start, brake regeneration, etc)
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:48 AM
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New EPA numbers just released.

The EPA just recently released the mileage numbers on the X3 2.8 and didn't do BMW any favors. BMW typically understates figures like horsepower, etc. I understand they tested the 328i internally and validated the original EPA figures only to have the EPA downgrade their figures. Historically it's been the japanese mfg's who have shown to fudge their mpg numbers not the germans.

With the new EPA hwy number estimated at 25mpg, BMW will have to do some backtracking on their marketing of increased efficiency with the new engine (with all the fuel saving bells and whistles like stop start, brake regeneration, etc)
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:25 AM
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The EPA numbers are weird. The jetta TDI is listed by the EPA for a significantly lower MPG figure than is actually being seen in real world driving -- people are getting something like 10 mpg better! That is significant. I think there is something wrong with their testing proceedures (still) and the EPA hasn't figured it out.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:55 AM
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It's funny to me that the EPA has to test the same engine that its already approved in 3 other BMW models.
How does that make a difference? The engine isn't the only thing that determines the MPG numbers of a car, do you think 528, X3 x28i, 328i, and 328i xdrive will have the same MPG numbers? Car's weight and other characteristics all have a role in the MPG numbers.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:05 AM
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The EPA just recently released the mileage numbers on the X3 2.8 and didn't do BMW any favors. BMW typically understates figures like horsepower, etc. I understand they tested the 328i internally and validated the original EPA figures only to have the EPA downgrade their figures. Historically it's been the japanese mfg's who have shown to fudge their mpg numbers not the germans.

With the new EPA hwy number estimated at 25mpg, BMW will have to do some backtracking on their marketing of increased efficiency with the new engine (with all the fuel saving bells and whistles like stop start, brake regeneration, etc)
The EPA mileage rating for MY2013 is 28, not 25. You can find it here:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....n=sbs&id=32345
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:25 AM
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On a 210 mile trip yesterday, I averaged 26.4 MPG with my 2012 2.8. I was originally going to purchase a 2013 turbo 4 for the better expected gas mileage. I'm glad that I purchased the 2012. Got a great price and the MPG is not that far off from the 2013 expected mileage. This 2.8 is no worse or even better in MPG than the 2007 CRV I had.
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:33 AM
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How does that make a difference? The engine isn't the only thing that determines the MPG numbers of a car, do you think 528, X3 x28i, 328i, and 328i xdrive will have the same MPG numbers? Car's weight and other characteristics all have a role in the MPG numbers.
Like I said in another post, EPA certification has more going on than MPG.
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Today I met with my local BMW sales person who called the National BMW office and confirmed the actual EPA numbers as 21 city and 28 hwy. He also alerted him to the figure currently showing on the BMW website and asked to have it updated to the correct number(s)
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