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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 08-09-2012, 10:47 PM
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New Vanos on the 530 = mental erection

So as some of you may know I replaced my Vanos seals. My 01 530 since I bought her has had days where she felt sluggish and some days felt really great. Well after the Vanos seals she is always feeling great. Those days that felt like their was a loss of power are gone - it was literally almost like an on and off switch. Like a turbo charged engine before boost(to those who are familiar) and during. If you haven't swapped the Vanos seals yet please do so
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:26 AM
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Ughh... I will get to this one of these days. I wanted to do the cooling system at the same time, though...
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:37 AM
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Another testament for Vanos seals
I have them done in both of my BMWs
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:43 AM
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I have already done it. Wait, no I havent. 540 kits still not available
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Old 08-10-2012, 09:49 AM
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I did mine, oh wait I don't have vanos.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:09 AM
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^too bad, you miss out on the "mental errection"
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I had exactly the same thoughts yesterday. I took a drive up the Blackfoot River, a nice smooth winding road out of town. When my car hits about 3500 rpm it feels like the after burner kicks in and it howls and flies. And, I was thinking boy am I glad I changed my VANOS seals because if I hadn't I wouldn't be having this experience. It is hard to remember exactly how it was 3 years ago before I did it, but, it was a lot less peppy.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:39 AM
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So as some of you may know I replaced my Vanos seals. My 01 530 since I bought her has had days where she felt sluggish and some days felt really great. Well after the Vanos seals she is always feeling great. Those days that felt like their was a loss of power are gone - it was literally almost like an on and off switch. Like a turbo charged engine before boost(to those who are familiar) and during. If you haven't swapped the Vanos seals yet please do so
Good for you. Have not done mine yet. . I'm at 102k miles. The power seems impressive to me (nothing to compare her to though).

Q) How many miles were on her when you changed the VANO seals?

Q) Can you ballpark how many miles were on her when you noticed the "sluggish" feeling?

Q) How long did it take?

Q) Any nuance "lessons learned" or things to look out for?

I want a mental erection too

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Did you guys do the 200 mile city driving break in? I need to get on the highway soon and only put 40ish city miles since the swap.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:20 AM
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Seemyad I swapped them at 142k a few days ago. The car didn't really feel sluggish it felt like it had less power some days and that was since I got her at 119k in February. The entire job while taking a few time outs from frustration PLUS an oil change took about 5-6 hours.
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I did mine at about 95K not because I was having any noticable problems, but, because I was doing the VCG and thought I might as well do the VANOS at the same time. I immediately was aware of improved performance. I didn't pay much attention to the 200 mile brake in. I drove some fast, some slow; pretty normal.
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^too bad, you miss out on the "mental errection"
True, because everyone needs to experience that at least once.
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Oh you guys with non-technically updated cars are so darn frisky.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:07 AM
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Hands down the best thing I have done to my car, performance-wise, is VANOS. Pulls like a champ since I did that.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:29 AM
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Didn't recall how it felt now, LOL. All I remember was that the new vanos kit is really the cheapest maintenance with the most effect.
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:15 AM
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Sorry for being a bit thick, but what is VANOS?
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:53 PM
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I have already done it. Wait, no I havent. 540 kits still not available
+1. I want to get it done on my 540i
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Sorry for being a bit thick, but what is VANOS?
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Tha double Vanos is a variable timing mechanism on the M54 engine. Earlier M52 engines used a single Vanos. BMW used the incorrect choice of rubber when designing the Vanos O-rings (think Challenger... only we don't go BOOM!). The original Buna rubber gets hard and brittle when exposed to heat and oil. This causes the Vanos cylinders to leak and perform poorly in a variety of ways. Beisan replaced the O rings using a different material (Viton), which restores Vanos performance and does not degrade. This is simply one of the single best things you can do for any E39, at any price. Visit the Beisan website for detailed info.

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I was at an exhaust shop last week getting my Acura done and the guy there has a 540. Said he's been in contact with Rajae from Beisan and will be working with him to do some of the 1st vanos testing and installation on a 540. It's coming
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I had my VCG replaced by an Indy a few months ago.

Q) Can the VANOS seals be replaced without impacting the VCG?

I think the answer is yes but would like verification. Thanks.

BTW Kudos to the Indy as I have not added a drop of oil to my car since the repairs. He also found an oil leak on the side of the block and repaird it. Prior to that I was adding half a quart every one or two months.

The Indy also noted a slight leak (more so slight seep) from the oil pan gasket. He said it was do minor that he wasn't concerned about it because it was not under high pressure so I could go a year or two without adding oil. He said the slight oil leak on the side of the engine was under high pressure which concerned him do I had it repaired.

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Old 08-13-2012, 11:23 AM
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I re-used my VCG but it only had 7500 miles on it. No leaks so far.
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I had my VCG replaced by an Indy a few months ago.

Q) Can the VANOS seals be replaced without impacting the VCG?

I think the answer is yes but would like verification. Thanks.

BTW Kudos to the Indy as I have not added a drop of oil to my car since the repairs. He also found an oil leak on the side of the block and repaird it. Prior to that I was adding half a quart every one or two months.

The Indy also noted a slight leak (more so slight seep) from the oil pan gasket. He said it was do minor that he wasn't concerned about it because it was not under high pressure so I could go a year or two without adding oil. He said the slight oil leak on the side of the engine was under high pressure which concerned him do I had it repaired.
I got a quote of about $640 for the VCG job from an Indy here in Memphis; just curious as to how much it cost you for the same. Seems like you have found a good indy who takes care of the other leaks as well.

I am compiling the list of things to do in tandem with the VCG including the Vanos.

To all others - I am unable to locate a DIY for VCG replacement on a 540, is there any other there. Please advise.
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The VCG replacement procedure for the I6 is very different than the V8. Apples and oranges comparison.
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