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E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 03-09-2016, 07:35 PM
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Taking the plunge to fix all of the oil leaks

I know I need an alternator bracket seal and valve seals. Going to do the valve cover gaskets and might as well do the timing covers too. Getting ready to put it in the corner of the shop and start tearing into it. Any advice on sequence of doing the job? Should I just start disassembling and do all of them at the same time? Do one part first or last?
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Old 03-10-2016, 05:53 AM
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Dive in head first! Glad you have the room to park it and do it at your pace, but yes, do it all. My hat is off to you!
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Old 03-10-2016, 08:02 AM
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The timing and valve cover are in the same lane for a fix, if you go into fix the upper timing then you go past the valve cover to get to them. So they would go hand-in-hand through the top of the engine.

The Alternator Bracket Gasket is it's own fix. It is on the front, you have an entirely different process to get to that one. So if you really wanted to do one then the other it wouldn't double up your work!
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:14 AM
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Just put my car in the shop to do the valve and timing gaskets yesterday.
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Old 03-10-2016, 02:03 PM
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You can figure 8 to 10 hours, maybe longer, per each side of the engine. Do not skip the timing cover gasket, while the valve cover is off. The alternator bracket is probably another 8 hours. Have plenty of beer on hand!

You can purchase Elring valve cover gaskets for around 30.00 per side, at europarts.com. They work as well as the OEM gaskets, & a lot cheaper. I have put one on my 750 for around 14 months, & all is good.
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Old 03-10-2016, 04:23 PM
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As much as I wanted to do this myself, I cannot due to time! As always appreciate your input!
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:56 PM
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Sounds like a lot of work. Aside from frequently checking and topping off the oil, and putting up with oil stains on the carport, will putting this job off harm the engine or anything else?
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:41 AM
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No but might harm other things, such as belts, altenator
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:40 AM
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Sounds like a lot of work. Aside from frequently checking and topping off the oil, and putting up with oil stains on the carport, will putting this job off harm the engine or anything else?
I ignored mine for 2 years with no issue. Although my alternator gasket started first, went a couple of years and I fixed it. Then my car was still dripping oil on my garage floor and determined ti was the valve cover/upper timing leaking. So I ignored that for a year and half. Traded the car in so avoided $2k in expense.

Nothing was hurt, I find anything stating that other components will suffer is just speculation.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:53 AM
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tampamark what did they say when you traded it in about the oil leaks?
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:14 PM
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When the drivers side upper timing cover starts to leak, it will make you think it is coming from the alternator bracket. Since they are both under pressure, they can dump a lot of oil in a hurry. As long as you can live with oil on the floor, be ready to repair the leak when the oil disappears in a hurry. My 750 started leaking around the vacuum pump, this week. I am still not sure if it is the vacuum pump, or the oil pressure sensor. I am going to repair both this weekend. Cleaning the engine good, helps identify the leak faster. I replaced the vacuum pump a year ago, but I can't remember if I replaced the oil sensor?

I can't stand an oil leak!
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:26 AM
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The timing and valve cover are in the same lane for a fix, if you go into fix the upper timing then you go past the valve cover to get to them. So they would go hand-in-hand through the top of the engine.

The Alternator Bracket Gasket is it's own fix. It is on the front, you have an entirely different process to get to that one. So if you really wanted to do one then the other it wouldn't double up your work!
I guess this is what I am trying to decide. Which is better - to only have one million pieces off the car at a time doing each job separate, or have more space but have two million pieces off by doing everything all at once and then one massive reassemble?
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:18 AM
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tampamark what did they say when you traded it in about the oil leaks?
Not a word. They gave me a decent trade value so I felt fine, they evaluated the car and gave me a price. The Jaguar dealer that I bought my '12 XK from immediately sold it wholesale to a local private dealer who fixes cars and sells them, he seemed to be a one man operation. I needed a new front bumper also, the bottom was a bit abused after getting caught on parking blocks. The GM at the dealer told me the guy would hang a new bumper, fix some things up, and sell it himself.

When I trade it in I know I am taking a hit on the value compared to private sale and to me that is the convenience, they look it over and know what they are getting and are happy.

Every transaction would be different. This is a Maserati/Jaguar dealer, they wouldn't keep a 13 year old 2006 BMW on their lot regardless. Maybe a lower end dealer would care more if they were looking to turn the car themselves and get a double-profit bump.

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I guess this is what I am trying to decide. Which is better - to only have one million pieces off the car at a time doing each job separate, or have more space but have two million pieces off by doing everything all at once and then one massive reassemble?
Just by the way this works you will do one before the other. So if you find yourself needing a break before heading into the next fix then wait until another weekend. You can't really do both at the same time. Like Herb says, the alternator bracket is 8 hours by itself, then the covers are each that much time per side.

For me the alternator bracket was real bad, it progressed where it was dumping oil at a higher volume. The timing/valve leaks were fairly minor in comparison, over a years time I had to top off my oil once. Not to mention that it gets oil more on the alternator and belts. If there was a potential for mucking things up it seems that is the worse one.

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Old 03-12-2016, 07:13 PM
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One side at a time, would be the best. Each side will be a little different. If you plan on doing both sides, do not put the center partition back in. This will save you the time for removing, & installation. Yes, it has to come off!
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