Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > The Best of Bimmerfest! > European Delivery

European Delivery
The place to share your experiences and tips related to "ED"... View the ED Wiki -- View the Pick-Up Date Calendar -- Add Your Pick-Up Date to the Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-24-2012, 03:18 AM
spinner11 spinner11 is offline
Registered User
Location: Orlando
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 8
Mein Auto: Lexus GS 450h
Are there any responsible dealers in Fl?

Trustworthy and experienced with ED?
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 04-24-2012, 07:14 AM
laser's Avatar
laser laser is offline
now driving number eight!
Location: Atlanta
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,172
Mein Auto: 2007 S2000
Board sponsor Adrian Avila at BMW South Atlanta is the best ED specialist for FL
__________________
Laser

"sometimes you're the windshield .... sometimes you're the bug"
___________________________

2014 328i Mojave Metallic
2009 328i Black Sapphire Metallic
2007 328i Black Sapphire Metallic
2007 Honda S2000 Berlina Black
(Hey Jim... am I diversified?)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-24-2012, 09:33 AM
chrischeung chrischeung is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 7,567
Mein Auto: 2012 ActiveHybrid 7 SWB
Quote:
Originally Posted by spinner11 View Post
Trustworthy and experienced with ED?
Not that I've read about in 10 years. Go with Adrian.
__________________
2012 ActiveHybrid 750i ED

3/12 ED 7 - thread ID 610350
1/11 ED 6 - thread ID 5767556&postcount=175
4/10 ED 5 - thread ID 453501
5/08 ED 4 - thread ID 290679
3/07 ED 3 - thread ID 201013
3/06 ED 2 - thread ID 136454
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-24-2012, 10:53 AM
babikes babikes is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Fort Myers FL
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 114
Mein Auto: 2011 M3 vert
I went with Adrian. It was a no hassle experience. I flew to Atlanta and drove back to Fort Myers the same day.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-25-2012, 08:10 AM
VMcV3y VMcV3y is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Houston, Texas
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 307
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 Cabriolet
Quote:
Originally Posted by laser View Post
board sponsor adrian avila at bmw south atlanta is the best ed specialist for fl
+1
__________________
- - - - -

2012 ///M3 Cabriolet; Le Mans Metallic Blue
EuroDeliv: 18 January 2012. Re-delivery: 16 March 2012 at PC/Spartanburg



European Delivery #02 Story August 2014:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=785462

European Delivery #01 Story January 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=594318

Performance Centre #01 Re-Delivery March 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=604529
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-25-2012, 09:37 AM
josh_b josh_b is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Seattle
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 103
Mein Auto: BMW X3
Um I hate to say I told you so but....
__________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________
ED 3/23/2012
Dropoff 3/30/2012
990 miles
E92 335 xdrive, space gray, black Dakota, dark glacier trim, 6MT, prem, M-sport with 18s, nav, HK, comfort access, heated seats
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-25-2012, 10:43 AM
cruise_bone's Avatar
cruise_bone cruise_bone is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Atlanta
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,588
Mein Auto: 328i M-sport Coupe
When I lived in Atlanta I had been telling Adrian I was going to buy one soon. In fact I think I made that promise on multiple occasions. I even test drove at his dealership two or three times. Then I moved to NYC for 24 months at the end of 2007. 6 months before I returned to Atlanta it was time and I reached out to Adrian. We did everything via phone/email/fed-ex and it was an absolutely seamless process.
I can not recommend Adrian enough and will go to him again when it's time for ED #2. I would go to him even sooner if BMW allowed the US market to have a 3 Series x-drive diesel.
__________________
2010 328i M-Sport Coupe
TitanSilber|Jade|Manual|Premium|Sat|Auto high-beams|iPod|Heated Seats
Euro Delivery - October 20, 2009
PCD - December 16, 2009


Last edited by cruise_bone; 04-25-2012 at 10:44 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-16-2012, 10:27 PM
lilskel's Avatar
lilskel lilskel is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,184
Mein Auto: 2011 335d ZMP
Lino is good
__________________
BMWCCA Since 2007
ED 28.10.2010 335d
ED 09.07.2008 X3 PCD: 04.09.2008
ED 24.05.2006 X3
ED 27.07.2005 X3
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-18-2012, 12:37 PM
I Love BMW's's Avatar
I Love BMW's I Love BMW's is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Duluth, GA
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 265
Mein Auto: 2015 M4
Quote:
Originally Posted by laser View Post
Board sponsor Adrian Avila at BMW South Atlanta is the best ED specialist for FL
I agree - I'm doing my fifth ED with Adrian in July. I highly recommend him.
__________________
2015 M4
2015 535i
2014 X1
2012 135i
2011 1M
2007 Z4 M

2012 535i (retired)
2011 535i (retired)
2009 135i (retired)
2008 535i (retired)
2008 335i (retired)
2008 M3 Vert (retired)
2006 750Li (retired)
2006 X3 (retired)
2006 650i Vert (retired)
2005 645i (retired)
2004 745Li (retired)
2004 M3 Vert (retired)
2000 323 cic (retired)
1996 318 ti (retired)
1994 318 cic (retired)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-18-2012, 01:40 PM
Yobyot's Avatar
Yobyot Yobyot is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Boston
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 351
Mein Auto: F30
Quote:
Originally Posted by spinner11 View Post
Trustworthy and experienced with ED?
Get a complete rookie -- the newest, greenest salesperson in the dealer of your choice.

Then, negotiate for $750 over ED INVOICE (not MSRP), plus whatever stinkin' fees the dealer will insist on.

Two reasons to do it this way: first, an ED order is cut-and-dried. You do the paperwork right, the car is waiting for you in Munich at the time you picked. The ED department at BMW NA has all the knowledge you need. That avoids you needing to trust the salesperson -- an iffy proposition to begin with and one made more questionable because ED transactions are complex. Just make sure -- REALLY REALLY SURE -- that you get an order printout of what you ordered. Make sure it's code 111 -- "accepted at BMW AG" and that IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. You don't have to search hard to find some poor fools who relied on a salesperson to check everything out and got something they didn't expect when they arrived in Munich. Because dealer expertise is a theory, you are better off with the newbie, so you know from the beginning you have to manage the process yourself.

Second, the pricing is what it is. Start negotiating up from ED invoice. If the dealer won't start there, go somewhere else. Watch out for the dealers who tell you they only sell at ED MSRP because "the car is already discounted." That's the clue you need to have to tell you that under no circumstances do you want those bozos servicing your car during the warranty. That's because if the sales people are allowed to rip off you off during the negotiation process, it's a good bet the service people are incentivized to also shave costs and overcharge for work.

In short, the dealer matters little. They aren't your friends; it's a business deal. Go where you get the best deal. Just remember: the process is really dependent on YOU being anal -- not the salesperson. If BMW says bring three sheets of blank yellow paper or you won't get your car, THEY MEAN IT. No salesperson is going to track this for you.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-20-2012, 07:55 AM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
I wonder why everyone is recommending someone in GA, when the OP asked about FL. I have done 5 EDs in a row with Braman Motorcars in West Palm Beach. John Welzein is my CA.
I live in Miami and I wouldn't recommend any stealerships in my area. It doesn't make sense dealing with someone out of your state in order to save $500 or even $1000. You need to build a relationship with your CA and local dealership. Issues will arrive and if you are a loyal customer the issues will be solved. I can list so many reasons why it doesn't make sense to deal out of your state. I have considered several times to do business with David Aviles who I know personally and respect very much, but after considering the transportation issues and tax credits thru trade ins, It didn't make sense to go that route.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-20-2012, 09:17 AM
VMcV3y VMcV3y is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Houston, Texas
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 307
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 Cabriolet
Quote:
Originally Posted by trucheli View Post
I wonder why everyone is recommending someone in GA, when the OP asked about FL. I have done 5 EDs in a row with Braman Motorcars in West Palm Beach. John Welzein is my CA.
I live in Miami and I wouldn't recommend any stealerships in my area. It doesn't make sense dealing with someone out of your state in order to save $500 or even $1000. You need to build a relationship with your CA and local dealership. Issues will arrive and if you are a loyal customer the issues will be solved. I can list so many reasons why it doesn't make sense to deal out of your state. I have considered several times to do business with David Aviles who I know personally and respect very much, but after considering the transportation issues and tax credits thru trade ins, It didn't make sense to go that route.
- Many people (as evidenced by many threads) have not found knowledgeable European Delivery expertise in Florida, and have taken the tried-and-proven route of Adrian...one of the Bimmerfest sponsors and the one in closest proximity to Florida. When I lived in Orlando, I contacted people at both local dealerships and, while they were polite, the people I spoke with did not have the experience of doing E.D.'s. That doesn't mean that Mr. Welzein doesn't have capable, successful experience -- it means that he is not as well-known on this particular Forum as others and hence visibility is less.

"It doesn't make sense dealing with someone out of your state..."- That's one opinion, but I disagree based on my experience and I have found that it does make sense to work with someone out of the state: It was amazingly hassle-free, to-the-point, and convenient to do almost everything via electronic means. Question, please: What are a few of the "so many reasons" that working with an out-of-state CA/dealer has failed you on European Delivery?....actual experience, please, not speculation.

- Between E.D. and Re-delivery, I relocated to Houston, and easily struck-up a good relationship with a Service Adviser at Advantage BMW. "Transportation issues" were actually benefits, taxes were indifferent, and there was no trade-in involved.

- My residential relocation in mid-deliveries added a level of unexpected fun and challenges: Adrian's dealership did a fine job of navigating the convoluted vehicle registration issues, etc.. If they handled that well, I can only imagine how convenient this would have been had I remained in the original location.


.
__________________
- - - - -

2012 ///M3 Cabriolet; Le Mans Metallic Blue
EuroDeliv: 18 January 2012. Re-delivery: 16 March 2012 at PC/Spartanburg



European Delivery #02 Story August 2014:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=785462

European Delivery #01 Story January 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=594318

Performance Centre #01 Re-Delivery March 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=604529
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-20-2012, 09:22 AM
Stealth.Pilot's Avatar
Stealth.Pilot Stealth.Pilot is offline
The Driver
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,577
Mein Auto: 2014 M5
Trucheli - what markup over ED invoice does John Welzein charge you?

I never went to palm beach but I got quotes from every dealer from South motors up to Vista and all 5 of them were way out of the money compared with Adrian or Greg.

Also I don't understand value of relationship with a local CA. I have a local service advisor relationship which is independent of my sales relationship.
__________________

2014 BMW///M5 Individual
Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance pkg, LED Package, Bang and Olufsen, 20" Forged wheels
2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-20-2012, 09:44 AM
Stealth.Pilot's Avatar
Stealth.Pilot Stealth.Pilot is offline
The Driver
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,577
Mein Auto: 2014 M5
Quote:
Originally Posted by laser View Post
Board sponsor Adrian Avila at BMW South Atlanta is the best ED specialist for FL
Agree. Another great thing about Adrian is he treats all Bimmerfest Members as long time customers. Super nice guy.
__________________

2014 BMW///M5 Individual
Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance pkg, LED Package, Bang and Olufsen, 20" Forged wheels
2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-20-2012, 11:31 AM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth.Pilot View Post
Trucheli - what markup over ED invoice does John Welzein charge you?

I never went to palm beach but I got quotes from every dealer from South motors up to Vista and all 5 of them were way out of the money compared with Adrian or Greg.

Also I don't understand value of relationship with a local CA. I have a local service advisor relationship which is independent of my sales relationship.
My deal is irrelevant because I have built a relationship with my CA for the past 8 years. But I can assure you that you will get a fair deal an will be happy knowing that there is someone close to you who can trust.
Having a relationship with a local CA is the same as having a relationship with a local attorney,local accountant, local insurance agent, financial advisor. I don't know about you but I like the human experience. I like doing business in person, if I ever have any issues or don't agree with something I'd like to sit down looking someone at their eyes and reach a solution in person, not over the phone 700 miles away. Buying a $75,000 car is not like buying a flashlight in Amazon.com.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4

Last edited by trucheli; 05-20-2012 at 12:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-20-2012, 11:51 AM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
I am recommending someone based on my excellent experience with Braman Motorcars and Mr. Weiltzen. To me saving $500 or $1000 is not important. People get hung up on how much over invoice someone is willing to do. I am a Financial Advisor and Insurance Agent so I have a clear understanding of sales and salesmen, the guys who advertise on this forum are in the business of getting as many people as they can get because they work on a volume basis thru dealership incentives based on the volume they sell. My CA doesnt't fall in this category that's why you will never hear about him. I just want to share my experience with the people of South Florida and let everyone know that there is someone with experience who they can trust and build a relationship.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-20-2012, 12:37 PM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
What are a few of the "so many reasons" that working with an out-of-state CA/dealer has failed you on European Delivery?....actual experience, please, not speculation.

One of them and the most important is the trade in of my previous vehicle having to pay taxes on the difference of trade in value and purchased value.

Additional cost of transportation from out of state dealership to local dealership.

Unnecessary additional time from Munich drop off to local re-delivery, you could be looking at two months. No thanks!! 6 weeks is long enough.

Personal relationship with CA and dealership and service department. The service department will take into consideration if you are a loyal customer of the dealership if any issues arrive.

That's why for me it doesn't make sense to do business out of the state.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4

Last edited by trucheli; 05-20-2012 at 01:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-20-2012, 02:52 PM
gator15 gator15 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Jacksonville
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 126
Mein Auto: BMW
I think that a "relationship with a local dealer" is overrated. That being said, I recently purchased an ED 328i from a dealer across the country and I also have purchased a new Porsche from a local dealer within the past two months. Unfortunately, BMW dealers in Florida are non-competitive and rightfully so, take advantage of this. Take a look at the Orlando area, all the dealerships are owned by the same company. They have no incentive to offer a great deal. Yes, with my Porsche, I can call my local dealer if I have a problem, but my service advisor can do the same thing. Frankly, I am not going to burden my salesman with problems that he cannot solve. I understand that some people may feel a little bit more comfortable with having a local dealer and that is fine. However, so many people in Florida use Adrian and other out of state dealers because they value the huge savings that these dealers offer vs. the benefit of having a local dealer. Did I have an extra $2,500 to pay my local dealer compared to the offer that I received from Greg Poland? Sure. However, to me, having a "local dealer" was not worth the extra $2,500 in my pocket.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-20-2012, 03:08 PM
moshe moshe is offline
Registered User
Location: PDX
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 74
Mein Auto: 2012 335i
Totally agree with gator.. Dealers are selling a totally undifferentiated product.. every dealer has access to exactly the same commodity.. Who cares about a "relationship" in this case??
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-20-2012, 03:52 PM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by gator15 View Post
I think that a "relationship with a local dealer" is overrated. That being said, I recently purchased an ED 328i from a dealer across the country and I also have purchased a new Porsche from a local dealer within the past two months. Unfortunately, BMW dealers in Florida are non-competitive and rightfully so, take advantage of this. Take a look at the Orlando area, all the dealerships are owned by the same company. They have no incentive to offer a great deal. Yes, with my Porsche, I can call my local dealer if I have a problem, but my service advisor can do the same thing. Frankly, I am not going to burden my salesman with problems that he cannot solve. I understand that some people may feel a little bit more comfortable with having a local dealer and that is fine. However, so many people in Florida use Adrian and other out of state dealers because they value the huge savings that these dealers offer vs. the benefit of having a local dealer. Did I have an extra $2,500 to pay my local dealer compared to the offer that I received from Greg Poland? Sure. However, to me, having a "local dealer" was not worth the extra $2,500 in my pocket.
Obviously you haven't developed a relationship with any local dealers, otherwise you wouldn't have to go outside Florida for ED purchase.
I wonder what you call a huge saving +$500 over invoice to me that's just a fair deal. The day you become a repeat customer and build a relationship you will be able to get that and even better savings. By the way, FYI your CA can help you solve any issues, even with the service department. You can't expect to have the same treatment if you are not a client of your local dealership. Personally, I don't have to go outside my area, but that's me.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-20-2012, 04:12 PM
trucheli trucheli is offline
ED 2008 335i
Location: Miami
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 337
Mein Auto: 2007 335i/2008 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by moshe View Post
Totally agree with gator.. Dealers are selling a totally undifferentiated product.. every dealer has access to exactly the same commodity.. Who cares about a "relationship" in this case??
I do because that's the way I do business. I support my local dealer and I have a business relationship. I am in sales and I value my clients the same way my CA value me as a loyal customer.
I think you must be new to BMW ownership, ask how many people had to go thru hoops to solve body shop issues, warranty issues, wear and tear issues at the end of a lease etc. this is why you care about having a relationship. I don't think your guy in Atlanta will be able to have much pull in a South Florida dealership when problems arise.
__________________
ED October '06 2007 AW 335i E92
ED October '07 2008 AW 335i E92
ED June '09 2009 AW E92 M3
ED May '10 2011 AW E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '11 2012 Le Mans Blue E92 M3 ZCP
ED October '12 2013 Mineral White E92 M3 ZCP
ED December'13 2014 AW 435i F32
ED December'14 2015 AW F82 M4
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-20-2012, 04:26 PM
Stealth.Pilot's Avatar
Stealth.Pilot Stealth.Pilot is offline
The Driver
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,577
Mein Auto: 2014 M5
Quote:
Originally Posted by trucheli View Post
I do because that's the way I do business. I support my local dealer and I have a business relationship. I am in sales and I value my clients the same way my CA value me as a loyal customer.
I think you must be new to BMW ownership, ask how many people had to go thru hoops to solve body shop issues, warranty issues, wear and tear issues at the end of a lease etc. this is why you care about having a relationship. I don't think your guy in Atlanta will be able to have much pull in a South Florida dealership when problems arise.
I bought several BMWs at MSRP at Braman Miami and when I had problems on my M3 Cabrio they did very little.

Your notion of the value of a local sales man is totally warped. You throw money at the problem.

Plus how often do you have a problem which requires a favor from the dealer? In my case it happened only once, the dealer did nothing and I had given them about 15k in margin already.

Now I keep the money in my pocket, and I buy service if I need it.

I did not get where I am today by leaving basis points on the table.
__________________

2014 BMW///M5 Individual
Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance pkg, LED Package, Bang and Olufsen, 20" Forged wheels
2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-20-2012, 04:53 PM
moshe moshe is offline
Registered User
Location: PDX
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 74
Mein Auto: 2012 335i
Quote:
Originally Posted by trucheli View Post
I do because that's the way I do business. I support my local dealer and I have a business relationship. I am in sales and I value my clients the same way my CA value me as a loyal customer.
I think you must be new to BMW ownership, ask how many people had to go thru hoops to solve body shop issues, warranty issues, wear and tear issues at the end of a lease etc. this is why you care about having a relationship. I don't think your guy in Atlanta will be able to have much pull in a South Florida dealership when problems arise.
I have had 3 different BMWs.. all from different dealers.. (getting 2012 one from a 4th one). Never had any issues with service..
I totally value relationship aspect when it's a differentiated good they are selling.. this is simply not the case.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-20-2012, 05:07 PM
Stealth.Pilot's Avatar
Stealth.Pilot Stealth.Pilot is offline
The Driver
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,577
Mein Auto: 2014 M5
Yeah I mean if this Trucheli guy was on my staff, I would fire him for lack of capitalist value oriented mindset.
__________________

2014 BMW///M5 Individual
Frozen Grey, Silverstone Full Merino, Piano Black, Exec Pkg, Drivers assistance pkg, LED Package, Bang and Olufsen, 20" Forged wheels
2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-20-2012, 06:49 PM
VMcV3y VMcV3y is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Houston, Texas
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 307
Mein Auto: 2012 M3 Cabriolet
Quote:
Originally Posted by trucheli View Post
What are a few of the "so many reasons" that working with an out-of-state CA/dealer has failed you on European Delivery?....actual experience, please, not speculation.

One of them and the most important is the trade in of my previous vehicle having to pay taxes on the difference of trade in value and purchased value.

Additional cost of transportation from out of state dealership to local dealership.

Unnecessary additional time from Munich drop off to local re-delivery, you could be looking at two months. No thanks!! 6 weeks is long enough.

Personal relationship with CA and dealership and service department. The service department will take into consideration if you are a loyal customer of the dealership if any issues arrive.

That's why for me it doesn't make sense to do business out of the state.
Okay. Thanks for sharing. It's great we can all have options to do what works best for each of us.

__________________
- - - - -

2012 ///M3 Cabriolet; Le Mans Metallic Blue
EuroDeliv: 18 January 2012. Re-delivery: 16 March 2012 at PC/Spartanburg



European Delivery #02 Story August 2014:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=785462

European Delivery #01 Story January 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=594318

Performance Centre #01 Re-Delivery March 2012:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=604529
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > The Best of Bimmerfest! > European Delivery
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms