Q5 3.0TDI and Hybrid confirmed for MY13 US Market!

http://www.quattroworld.com/q5/galle...brid-unveiled/

Audi Q5 hybrid quattro

The Q5 hybrid quattro, the first hybrid model from Audi, is designed as a highly efficient parallel hybrid. Propulsive power is supplied by a 2.0 TFSI with 155 kW (211 hp) and 350 Nm(258.15 lb-ft) of torque as well as an electric motor with a peak output of 40 kW (54 hp) and peak torque of 210 Nm (154.89 lb-ft). Together, the two power sources can briefly output a system power of 180 kW (245 hp) and a system torque of 480 Nm (354.03 lb-ft).

The Audi Q5 hybrid quattro accelerates from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 7.1 seconds and can reach a top speed of 225 km/h (139.81 mph). In pure electric mode, it can cover up to three kilometers (1.86 miles) at a constant speed of 60 km/h (37.28 mph). In this mode, its top speed is 100 km/h (62.14 mph), while its combined fuel consumption is just 6.9 liters per 100 km (34.09 US mpg).

A highly modified eight-speed tiptronic transmission transfers engine power to the drivetrain without requiring a torque converter; its mounting space is taken by the electric motor, which is combined with a multi-plate clutch. The clutch engages and disengages the electric motor and the TFSI. A compact and lightweight lithium-ion battery system with 1.3 kWh energy capacity stores electrical energy. A complex air cooling system maintains battery temperatures within a suitable window.

The driver switches between the three driving modes with a button and with the tiptronic gear selection lever. The EV characteristic map prioritizes the electric drive, while the D mode efficiently controls both the internal combustion engine and electric motor. The S mode and the manual shift gate of the tiptronic are configured for a sporty style of driving.

Within these constraints, the hybrid control module chooses the best operating mode at any given time. The Audi Q5 hybrid quattro can be driven with just the TFSI, just the electric drive or in hybrid mode. It can also recover energy during deceleration, or it can boost output for powerful acceleration when both drives work together.

Outside, the Audi Q5 hybrid quattro can be recognized by its fully painted bumpers and by the hybrid-specific ten-arm turbine design of its wheels. 19-inch wheels are standard; 20-inch wheels are optional. Inside, special instruments display the hybrid’s operating state – such as the powermeter, which replaces the tachometer.

Audi is launching its updated Q5 with five engine options: three TDI and two TFSI engines. All of these engines combine direct fuel injection with charging, and a start-stop system is standard in all versions. Although most of the engines have enhanced performance, their fuel consumption values were reduced by up to 15 percent.

The most efficient Q5 series engine is the 2.0 TDI; Audi offers it in two versions. In the version with 105 kW (143 hp) and 320 Nm (236.02 lb-ft) of torque, the four-cylinder engine in combination with manual transmission and front-wheel drive has an average fuel consumption of 5.3 liters of diesel per 100 km (44.38 US mpg) – and a CO2 equivalent of 139 grams per km(223.70 g/mile). The 75 liter (19.81 US gallon) fuel tank enables driving ranges of up to 1,400 km (870 miles).

The Audi Q5 with 130 kW (177 hp) and 380 Nm (280.27 lb-ft) of torque (with S tronic and quattro drive) has a fuel consumption value of 6.0 liters per 100 km (39.20 US mpg). The 3.0 TDI delivers 180 kW (245 hp) and 580 Nm (427.79 lb-ft) of torque. The V6 diesel – which appears in a new, advanced design and is always paired with a seven-speed S tronic and quattro drive system – accelerates the Q5 from zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 6.5 seconds and has a top speed of 225 km/h (139.81 mph). Its combined fuel consumption is just 6.4 liters of fuel per 100 km (36.75 US mpg).

The gasoline engines of the updated Audi Q5 also feature state-of-the-art technology. A highlight of the TFSI engine line-up is the new two-liter, four-cylinder engine that has numerous innovations such as in the control of valves and their stroke, innovative thermal management, the fuel injection system, turbocharger and integration of the exhaust manifold in the cylinder head.

The new 2.0 TFSI outputs 165 kW (225 hp) and 350 Nm (258.15 lb-ft). Its fuel consumption (with a manual transmission) is 7.6 liters per 100 km (30.95 US mpg). Producing even more power is the new 3.0 TFSI – the three-liter V6 with supercharging, which replaces the 3.2-liter engine. This engine outputs 200 kW (272 hp) of power and 400 Nm (295.02 lb-ft) of torque. Key performance data: zero to 100 km/h (62.14 mph) in 5.9 seconds, top speed 234 km/h (145.40 mph), combined fuel consumption of 8.5 liters per 100 km (27.67 US mpg).

BMW needs to step up the engine choices on the X3 now.

More powerful 2.0T, 3.0T, 3.0TDI, and also 2.0T Hybrid

That Q5 V6 will fly out of the showrooms! Personally the 3.0 TDI would be the Q5 I would love to have -- decent performance and outstanding fuel mileage. BMW better get cracking or they will be behind the power curve even further!

I agree, if BMW would offer the 35d in the X3 that would definitely be my next vehicle.

I'm still not really interested in the Q5 even with a diesel option. I really want to like Audi but, every time I drive one I come right back to BMW.

Im with you Hotrod BMWA better come up to the plate or their sales will SOAR like hell!!!

BMW does have a diesel X3 though, it just is not sold in the states and actually a couple ones(35d and 20d) unless they did away with them very recently. I realize elsewhere it has been said the Q5 diesel is coming stateside but this specific announcement sounds more euro specific.

I am growing a weakspot for the lower powered GLK diesel that was announced. Not sure if I'd get any of them though, greatly would depend on the cost of the vehicle.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

BMW does have a diesel X3 though, it just is not sold in the states and actually a couple ones(35d and 20d) unless they did away with them very recently. I realize elsewhere it has been said the Q5 diesel is coming stateside but this specific announcement sounds more euro specific.

I am growing a weakspot for the lower powered GLK diesel that was announced. Not sure if I'd get any of them though, greatly would depend on the cost of the vehicle.

From the link:

You can expect the new Q5 to be available in North America later this year as a 2013 model. We will see the 2.0 TFSI, 3.0 TDI and hybrid choices available.

Yes and I was not disputing that it probably will show up but pointing out most all the link was biased to euro. I was also simply pointing out BMW does in fact make a couple diesel X3s. I am sure if they thought they could sell enough of them to make it worth importing then they would and who knows they might even be planning on it.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

Yes and I was not disputing that it probably will show up but pointing out most all the link was biased to euro. I was also simply pointing out BMW does in fact make a couple diesel X3s. I am sure if they thought they could sell enough of them to make it worth importing then they would and who knows they might even be planning on it.

Sorry if that came across as me being short. Killing time at work and had to close out quickly.

Europe almost always gets the new models before us (at least with European makes) it would make sense that they are getting info in their native units before the US press release.

I think most of us are aware that BMW makes the vast majority of models in a diesel variant for somewhere else in the world these days. When you factor in that both M-B and Audi will now have a smaller diesel SUV variant here I can't see how they can ignore that much longer. The real kicker is the X3 diesel is made here in the US and we still don't get it.

I don't know that I trust BMW to know what people really want anymore. Ahem, X6 and 5 GT

Well BMW could not sell an X5 diesels without big corporate and dealer discounts for how many years? I think the majority of BMW owners are not as open to a diesel as an MBZ, VW and possibly Audi too since that is an extension of VW anyway. I sure don't see the other makes having to do massive discounts to get things to sell.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

Well BMW could not sell an X5 diesels without big corporate and dealer discounts for how many years? I think the majority of BMW owners are not as open to a diesel as an MBZ, VW and possibly Audi too since that is an extension of VW anyway. I sure don't see the other makes having to do massive discounts to get things to sell.

There is the tax credit that BMW, M-B, Audi and VW diesels qualify for, other than that I've not seen any other incentives/negotiated prices on BMW diesels beyond what you can typically get on a gasoline equivalent.

Eco credit from BMW existed for almost the entire time they sold the 335d and it applied to the X5.

Wasn't the eco credit and the tax credit the same?

Originally Posted by UncleJ

Wasn't the eco credit and the tax credit the same?

No. When I bought my car there was a $800-900 federal tax credit I could take for that year. There also was something like a $3500-4500 Eco credit from BMW that came right off the sticker price. Then there was another $3000-4000 the dealer took off because they'd had the car so long and wanted it gone.

I am using ranges because I do not remember the exact numbers any more. I know they dwindled down the Eco some over the years. I'd not bought the car or any 335d without the Eco credit because felt it was over priced for what it is. I have not met many "d" owners out in the real world but the few I have all said something similar in that they'd not bought it without the credit and gone with another make. Things might be different for online based individuals who are more educated on what BMW will knock off any vehicle. I for one did not realize I could buy any new BMW for $7-10k off msrp because sure appears a lot of "d" owners including myself got that much off and comments in this thread imply that is just norm for any car. I know my buddy got no where near that off on his 335i or my other buddy on his 528i, actually I think neither got anything off.

The Bluetec GLK and the TDI Q5 will grab a big share of the smail/mid SUV market, and if VAG drops a TDI into the Tiguan, that will cinch that. Even a 23d X3 would likely sell quite well, a 20d or 23d X1 as well.

The X5 35d is still a great seller, but it goes head to head with the Q7 and GL and to a lesser degree the Touareg...so it doesn't command the market share.

If a 23d or 35d X3 came out before the 535d, I'd keep the 335d and grab an X3d. If it doesn't, that GLK is looking kind of interesting for my wife who loved out CRD Jeep Liberty while we had it.


Regards
D.

Why would the X5 go head to head with the GL when it is more the size of the ML?

Originally Posted by Snipe656

Why would the X5 go head to head with the GL when it is more the size of the ML?

MLs are getting smaller these days.

If I was cross-shopping an X5, I'd be looking at a Q7 or GL.

Getting smaller? I shopped the ML in December, the 2012 parked right by the 2011 sure looked bigger to me. Both looked bigger that the old original sized ones.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

Getting smaller? I shopped the ML in December, the 2012 parked right by the 2011 sure looked bigger to me. Both looked bigger that the old original sized ones.

Interesting enough, guess the numbers don't lie but also look at how the numbers compare across them all and the GL and Q7 are clearly much larger vehicles than an X5 and ML:

2012 ML Interior Dimensions:
Cargo capacity: 71.0 cu. ft. w/rear seat down and 36.2 cu. ft. all seats in place
Interior dimensions: 38.9 in. front headroom, 38.5 in. rear headroom, 40.3 in. front leg room, 38.4 in. rear leg room, 58.5 in. front shoulder room and 58.4 in. rear shoulder room
Seating: five passengers

2011 ML Interior Dimensions:
Cargo capacity: 72.4 cu. ft. w/rear seat down and 29.4 cu. ft. all seats in place
Interior dimensions: 39.9 in. front headroom, 39.8 in. rear headroom, 42.2 in. front leg room, 40.0 in. rear leg room, 59.8 in. front shoulder room and 59.8 in. rear shoulder room
Seating: five passengers

2012 X5 Interior Dimensions:
Cargo capacity: 75.2 cu. ft. w/rear seat down and 35.8 cu. ft. all seats in place
Interior dimensions: 39.3 in. front headroom, 39.0 in. rear headroom, 40.0 in. front leg room, 36.6 in. rear leg room, 60.0 in. front shoulder room and 58.0 in. rear shoulder room
Seating: five passengers

2012 GL:
Cargo capacity: 83.3 cu. ft. w/rear seat down, 14.3 cu. ft. all seats in place and 43.8 cu. ft. third row seats removed
Interior dimensions: 40.1 in. front headroom, 40.6 in. rear headroom, 40.3 in. front leg room, 39.5 in. rear leg room, 58.3 in. front shoulder room and 58.9 in. rear shoulder room
Seating: seven passengers

2012 Q7:
Cargo capacity: 72.5 cu. ft. w/rear seat down and 10.9 cu. ft. all seats in place
Interior dimensions: 39.5 in. front headroom, 39.0 in. rear headroom, 41.3 in. front leg room, 37.1 in. rear leg room, 58.7 in. front shoulder room and 58.1 in. rear shoulder room
Seating: seven passengers

Do any of those in diesel format besides the 2012 ML have spare tires? That to me is a pretty big thing and actually why I passed on getting a 2011 ML Bluetec this past December.