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7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)
Discussion of BMW's 4th generation E65/E66 7 Series flagship. The E65 generated much controversy, due to its radical styling and iDrive user difficulties. Nonetheless, the E65 broke records to become the best-selling 7-series iteration ever, especially after its 2005 facelift.

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Old 05-02-2012, 11:27 PM
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Transmission Software Upgrade

Hello all,

I am new to this forum and recently acquired a 2006 BMW 750Li.

I have been having some rough transmission shifts from 2-3 gear and read countless hours online and it seems everyone is pointing to a software problem/reset adaptation with DIS/IPNA.

I really do not want to take it to the dealer as they are quoting me $350 just to update the software.

If anyone could point me in the direction to acquiring the software and proper cable to do this, I would greatly appreciate it.

If anyone in Southern California has the software and hardware to reset this, I'd be willing to drive out to wherever you are and give you some money for your troubles as well.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:51 AM
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have u changed the guibo yet?

if not, i suggest u change it before you do anything else.
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:02 AM
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SUBJECT
Harsh 3-2 and/or 2-1 Downshifts
MODEL
E65 and E66 (7 Series) 745i and 745Li with N62 and GA6HP26Z transmission
Vehicles from SOP up to 03/2005
SITUATION
IMPORTANT:
Depending on the production date of the vehicle; there are different situations, and corrective measures, that
must be carefully followed. Running production changes in vehicle hardware and software divide these
situations into three distinct production periods.
A. For vehicles produced from SOP up to and including 02/2003:
***56256;***56443; Harsh 3-2 and / or 2-1 downshift when slowing to a stop
***56256;***56443; Harsh downshift when accelerating at highway speeds
***56256;***56443; "Clunk" noise during a 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal
as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
B. For vehicles produced from 03/2003 up to and including 08/2003
***56256;***56443; "Clunk" noise during 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal
as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
C. For vehicles produced from 09/2003 up to and including 02/2005
***56256;***56443; Harsh 3-2 downshift when slowing to a stop
***56256;***56443; "Clunk" noise during a 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal
as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
CAUSES
EGS software calibration
Driveshaft guibo coupling deterioration for "clunk" noise complaints
CORRECTION
For Situation A: Harsh downshift complaints
1. Verify that the transmission fluid level is correct.
SI B 24 17 07
Automatic Transmission
July 2007
Technical Service
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http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B241707g.htm 11/9/2007
2. Perform a "Short test" and correct all Drivetrain related faults first.
3. Submit a Puma case titled "Coasting Jolt" to obtain the access code needed to complete the retrofit
reprogramming of the EGS module.
4. Start a Progman session using only V26.1.1 or higher and select "Coasting Jolt" from the retrofit options
menu. The measures plan should indicate a higher programmed number and an EGS calibration change.
5. Clear the EGS adaptations after programming is completed.
For "clunk" noise complaints, vehicles produced 10/2002 up to and including 02/2003, inspect the driveshaft
guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
For Situation B: "Clunk" noise complaints
1. Verify the complaint
On vehicles produced from 03/2003 up to and including 08/2003 the only repair is to inspect the driveshaft
guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
Note:
There are not any further EGS software changes for vehicles in this production period.
For Situation C: Harsh 3-2 downshift complaints
1. Verify that the transmission fluid level is correct.
2. 2. Perform a "Short test" and correct all Drivetrain related faults first.
3. Submit a Puma case titled "Urban Program" to obtain the access code needed to complete the retrofit
reprogramming of the EGS module.
4. Start a Progman session using only V26.1.1 or higher and select "Urban Program" from the retrofit
options menu. The measures plan should indicate a higher programmed number and an EGS calibration
change.
5. Clear the EGS adaptations after programming is completed.
For "clunk" noise complaints, vehicles produced 09/2003 up to and including 02/2005, inspect the driveshaft
guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Please refer to the latest KSD for all applicable labor operations and allowances.
If the appropriate labor operation is not contained in KSD, then a work time labor operation should be used.
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http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B241707g.htm 11/9/2007
Defect Code 24 00 39 61 00
[ Copyright 2007 BMW of North America, LLC ]
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http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B241707g.htm 11/9/2007
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:03 AM
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Hope that will help. $350 is not a bad price for the reprogramming. Let the dealer do it. But make sure they follow this procedure and you have these symptoms. I thought my tranny was going to fall out. After the SIB EGS Software calibration, all good. No problems thus so far. It has been a few months.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:53 AM
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the quick response.

The dealership is now telling me they are not willing to upgrade because it is "not a recall problem that requires an update to the software".

How can I check which SIB version I currently have on the car and what is the latest version available for download?

They want to charge $160 for a technician to drive the car and if they feel it is a problem, then they will advise what to do next.

I have already had 2 technicians from different dealerships drive the car and for some "unknown" reason, they keep telling me there is nothing wrong with the shifting.

I can CLEARLY feel the jerking motion of the shifts but they keep insisting it is normal.

How complicated is this supposed software update? I thought they could just hook up a computer and reflash the programming easily, but it seems these dealerships aren't willing to do it.

Can this be done personally or am i just out of luck and need to drive to every BMW dealership in the area until someone finally gives in?

I'll try changing the guibo this weekend since it does not look like too hard of a job to do, but I do not hear the clunking sound as stated in the service bulletin.

Much appreciated.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:57 AM
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Ok, update from the stealership.

They had a technician drive the car and recommended the following:

GUIBO change ~$960!! Isn't the part only around $180? that is some intense labor. Is it really that hard to change? (I have the write up on how to change it, but it doesn't seem the ~$800 in labor is not justified....)

Has anyone changed this themselves without too much trouble?

The guibo change writeup looks straightfoward enough, but is there potential hardships that could take 8-10 hours worth of labor for a change like this?


Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:11 PM
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Ok, update from the stealership.

They had a technician drive the car and recommended the following:

GUIBO change ~$960!! Isn't the part only around $180? that is some intense labor. Is it really that hard to change? (I have the write up on how to change it, but it doesn't seem the ~$800 in labor is not justified....)

Has anyone changed this themselves without too much trouble?

The guibo change writeup looks straightfoward enough, but is there potential hardships that could take 8-10 hours worth of labor for a change like this?


Thanks in advance.

Buy the part and have an independent mechanic change it
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:09 PM
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2-1 Harsh downshift fix

Just got done updating the EGS on my 2003 745 using PROGMAN. It had the harsh 2-1 downshift. ITS FIXED!! So happy, no more 'CLUNK'.

Thanks for the posts!!
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:30 PM
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Transmission Software Upgrade

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Just got done updating the EGS on my 2003 745 using PROGMAN. It had the harsh 2-1 downshift. ITS FIXED!! So happy, no more 'CLUNK'.

Thanks for the posts!!
More details please. EGS? Progman?
Is this a DIY?


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Old 05-10-2013, 07:15 PM
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Try this.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=621988
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:15 AM
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Hi Gents;
I know its an old thread,

Can anyone tell me what is the latest Software Number for E66 (750Li 2006) Modules, Specially EGS and DME??

If I updated EGS, What is the next steps that I need to perform after software update(Initializing / Reset)? Do I need to update other Modules as well to make the operation complete??

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Old 05-06-2016, 11:37 AM
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I was experiencing this after the Guibo changed. Then I did the transmission reset which you hold down the gas pedal for 25 seconds. It is 70% better now. Just have to go really slow on the gas pedal when the rpm about to reach 1800.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:13 PM
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Hey I recently took my 06 bmw 750li to dealership, for transmission problems like in this thread they reset my adaptation values and upgraded my software which was from 2007...i still get a clunking noise when in a hill or if I push on the gas a lil harder... Should I change the guibo next, or is it still software issues... My receipt doesn't speak on anything on what is was upgraded too or how they did...i just spent 250. 00 for them to do it... Any ideas on wat I should do next? I wish I was cpu savy to do what the thread ask... I'm located in Seattle... Would any of the independent mechanics be able to do exactly what the thread ask??
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:12 PM
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:58 AM
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Hey I recently took my 06 bmw 750li to dealership, for transmission problems like in this thread they reset my adaptation values and upgraded my software which was from 2007...i still get a clunking noise when in a hill or if I push on the gas a lil harder... Should I change the guibo next, or is it still software issues... My receipt doesn't speak on anything on what is was upgraded too or how they did...i just spent 250. 00 for them to do it... Any ideas on wat I should do next? I wish I was cpu savy to do what the thread ask... I'm located in Seattle... Would any of the independent mechanics be able to do exactly what the thread ask??
If you feels a little vibration on push the gas a little, or when you are on 110~120 speed and release the gas, then you have to check both gubio or shaft mount.
And ind. Mechanics can do such easy job.
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:00 PM
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Thanks for the info guibo ordered... Got qouted 300... I'll update whwn it's done... No vibration at high speeds... Jus a lil here when coming to a complete stop... A clunk noise when I slow down, theb hit tha gas... Or when on a hill... I hope it's only the guibo... Like explained... Thanks yall.. Yall rock...!
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