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Old 05-28-2004, 07:19 AM
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****SPOILER****2004 Grand Prix of Europe

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Old 05-28-2004, 07:41 AM
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Old 05-28-2004, 07:43 AM
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Friday practice results:

1 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.355

2 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:29.618

3 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:29.677

4 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.700

5 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:29.919

6 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:29.943

7 35 Anthony Davidson BAR-Honda 1:30.028

8 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:30.163

9 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:30.227

10 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:30.283

11 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:30.337

12 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:30.466

13 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:30.497

14 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:30.531

15 38 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:30.949

16 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas 1:30.974

17 37 Bjorn Wirdheim Jaguar-Cosworth 1:31.780

18 39 Timo Glock Jordan-Ford 1:32.080

19 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:32.217

20 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:32.310

21 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:32.643

22 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:32.986

23 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:33.175

24 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:33.393

25 40 Bas Leinders Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.538

Is McLaren back in the mix? Talk among yourselves.
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Is McLaren back in the mix? Talk among yourselves.
Could be. I also think that the blue and white good guys have started to improve as well. Michael seems a bit less than his confident self in his post practice commentary. I think that this could be the beginning weekend of the end of the evil red empire domination.





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Old 05-28-2004, 09:26 AM
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Could be. I also think that the blue and white good guys have started to improve as well. Michael seems a bit less than his confident self in his post practice commentary. I think that this could be the beginning weekend of the end of the evil red empire domination.





..and then I woke up.
Go back to sleep if that's the only way to retain those wonderful visions.
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Old 05-28-2004, 01:28 PM
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Are you kidding, even if they are fast today, they are gonna lost a couple of engines in the next day or so
Does anyone have engine failure stats for this year, by maker. (and is there a convenient place to find that sort of F1 stuff online?) I know Mercedes is really bad this year, but are they the worst in the field so far? I recall sometime around midway through 2003 season (I believe) when the SpeedChannel commentators noted that no Ford engines had finished a race yet--unless I heard them wrong.
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Old 05-28-2004, 02:13 PM
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The stats there aren't exactly what I was looking for...but close. For example, races finished or laps completed is an indicator of engine reliability, but not entirely. Obviously other things go wrong and s-hit happens.

Thanks, Alex, it's a nice link and a new one for me.

Perhaps a "Favorite F1 site" thread would be in order. Oops have I just hijacked my own thread.

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Me ? No, I'll try to enjoy the success of my team, provided they won't get shooted out of the race.
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Nürburgring is always a special race for me. I had my first car test at Nürburgring, and I went here a lot when I was younger. It’s the race closest to my home in Moenchengladbach, and I did a lot of races here in Formula 3, Formula Ford and Formula 3000.
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Here's to the guys in pastel blue and yellow!

Er, it doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Me ? No, I'll try to enjoy the success of my team, provided they won't get shooted out of the race.
Alex, I like that, "...shooted out of the race." I think, shunted out of the race might be better, but your translation is understandable. Alonso really wants Ralf's butt doesn't he? There's lots of hard feelings I suspect after last week, without two weeks to get over it.
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Alonso really wants Ralf's butt doesn't he? There's lots of hard feelings I suspect after last week, without two weeks to get over it.
Well, actually, I like that. We need some action on the tracks (a la Prost vs. Senna).
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Alonso wants Ralf... Montoya and Michael want each other... Trulli and Button want to win... Kimi wants to finish a damn race... this will be iiiinteresting.
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Does anyone have engine failure stats for this year, by maker. (and is there a convenient place to find that sort of F1 stuff online?) I know Mercedes is really bad this year, but are they the worst in the field so far? I recall sometime around midway through 2003 season (I believe) when the SpeedChannel commentators noted that no Ford engines had finished a race yet--unless I heard them wrong.
Sorry, didn't mean to go off, I was rooting for McLaren... I'm a bit annoyed with them is all... I think THIS season they have been really crappy (bottom 3)
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Well, I'm a McLaren fan as well and I blame Chrysler. I really don't remember when the two companies merged, but having anything to do with Chryler can't be a good thing. Just kidding of course. I know Chrysler has nothing to do with Ilmor, but I have to blame something. I was really hoping Kimi would take it to Michael this year. I think he is much better suited to race him tight than JPM. Besides, I'm Finnish. That said, McLaren topping the practice time sheets gives me no false hope.
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Holy Pre-Qualifying Batman!!

Get a load of this!!!

Sato...

1:27.6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He puts more than a half second on Schumi!!

The official session will be *very* interesting.
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Final Qualifying results:

1 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:28.351

2 10 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 1:28.986

3 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:29.135

4 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 1:29.137

5 9 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 1:29.245

6 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:29.313

7 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:29.353

8 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW 1:29.354

9 4 Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW 1:29.459

10 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:29.697

11 16 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 1:29.706

12 14 Mark Webber Jaguar-Cosworth 1:30.797

13 15 Christian Klien Jaguar-Cosworth 1:31.431

14 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan-Ford 1:31.604

15 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan-Ford 1:31.979

16 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 1:31.982

17 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.022

18 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi-Cosworth 1:34.398

19 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber-Petronas

20 5 David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes


Oh, well.
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