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Old 04-23-2012, 04:26 PM
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Navigation Guidance Capabilities in 2012 F10

Haven't yet had chance to take new 5er on a long trip with multiple freeway/highway junctions, so I am curious about the nav guidance capabilities. For example, on the Acura TL I traded in, as you came to a freeway junction, it would show you on the split screen a visual of which lane you should be in to be on the proper freeway/highway. Also, when a freeway exit was coming up it would also have a visual with an arrow letting you know where to exit.

Does the BMW nav guidance have that same capability, or just the nav voice and the guidance routing text? And I have done a lot of searches on here and didn't find anything that directly addressed my question.

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Old 04-23-2012, 04:40 PM
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Does the BMW nav guidance have that same capability, or just the nav voice and the guidance routing text? And I have done a lot of searches on here and didn't find anything that directly addressed my question.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:51 AM
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BMW NAV has no steet name pronounciation, just trurn right turn left etc. It is also known to give wrong directions. I would recommend that you preview the trip directions to make sure that thery are logical.
PS I always carry a Garmin GPS as a back-up. Sorry I bought the tech package, huge waste of money. BMW should be ashamed of themselves
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Haven't yet had chance to take new 5er on a long trip with multiple freeway/highway junctions, so I am curious about the nav guidance capabilities. For example, on the Acura TL I traded in, as you came to a freeway junction, it would show you on the split screen a visual of which lane you should be in to be on the proper freeway/highway. Also, when a freeway exit was coming up it would also have a visual with an arrow letting you know where to exit.

Does the BMW nav guidance have that same capability, or just the nav voice and the guidance routing text? And I have done a lot of searches on here and didn't find anything that directly addressed my question.

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Yes same... Dont bother the negative comments abt the Nav .. Its not that bad!
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:59 AM
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Yes same... Dont bother the negative comments abt the Nav .. Its not that bad!
I figured out how to get it to do what I wanted. When in guidance mode, with the screen set to map, enable split screen, and then for split screen display option use "arrow". Plus have exit ramp view enabled. I will say that the BMW system is generally a little more difficult to use than was my Acura TL, but the capabilities are there.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:09 AM
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I figured out how to get it to do what I wanted. When in guidance mode, with the screen set to map, enable split screen, and then for split screen display option use "arrow". Plus have exit ramp view enabled. I will say that the BMW system is generally a little more difficult to use than was my Acura TL, but the capabilities are there.
This same lane display arrow guidance can be viewed on the instrument panel as well ..... its a nice visual.
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I figured out how to get it to do what I wanted. When in guidance mode, with the screen set to map, enable split screen, and then for split screen display option use "arrow". Plus have exit ramp view enabled. I will say that the BMW system is generally a little more difficult to use than was my Acura TL, but the capabilities are there.
I have a Accord which has the same system as Acura... Trust me BMW system is way better than ours...Well atleast i am impressed (I am very choosy person) Only thing is, you have to know is where and how... I had 1000 mile trip recently and the system lived up to its expectation...I sent all address/points to car even before i got the car as my account was activated before i left for the car....


Let me know if you have any questions, i might be able to help you comming from honda navs

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Old 04-24-2012, 07:28 AM
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This same lane display arrow guidance can be viewed on the instrument panel as well ..... its a nice visual.
Yes, when guidance is active, you can scroll through several additional choices on the multi-function display, including lane indicators -- very cool, IMO. Funny, we've had 3 Acura TL's without Nav, just got my wife a '12 TSX with Nav -- I'm not crazy about the Honda/Acura system -- not sure why so many people "love" it. I think it's what you get used to.
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Yes same... Dont bother the negative comments abt the Nav .. Its not that bad!
Yes, really, it is. Don't make me break out my diagrams!
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:47 AM
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I figured out how to get it to do what I wanted. When in guidance mode, with the screen set to map, enable split screen, and then for split screen display option use "arrow". Plus have exit ramp view enabled. I will say that the BMW system is generally a little more difficult to use than was my Acura TL, but the capabilities are there.
This annoys me to no end, and is silly. Every other Nav system in the world has a "pop up" for turns....why doesn't the BMW? Why do I need to enable split screen to have the exit view? Why can't it simply pop up and go away?

Yes, I know that I can have the directional arrows pop up on the info display below the gauges. Those graphics are not as good nor are they in the same line of sight.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:57 AM
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This annoys me to no end, and is silly. Every other Nav system in the world has a "pop up" for turns....why doesn't the BMW? Why do I need to enable split screen to have the exit view? Why can't it simply pop up and go away?

Yes, I know that I can have the directional arrows pop up on the info display below the gauges. Those graphics are not as good nor are they in the same line of sight.
Have you noticed any improvements in the F30 loaner, if it has nav that is?
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:11 AM
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Have you noticed any improvements in the F30 loaner, if it has nav that is?
I drove three new 2012 models (7, 6, 3) at the recent BMW sponsored Hilton Head Island Concours d’Elegance ........ none of them could navigate their way off the island ....... the current NAV is pretty but routing is fundamentally flawed.
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I drove three new 2012 models (7, 6, 3) at the recent BMW sponsored Hilton Head Island Concours d’Elegance ........ none of them could navigate their way off the island ....... the current NAV is pretty but routing is fundamentally flawed.
Thanks Laser, I guess then that they use the same map provider and alghoritms as in the F10.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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This is most interesting. My Ford F350 has great Nav and I use a garmin for my current car as when I bought it I thought...I don't need Nav, I've lived in this area all my life. I ended up moving 6 months later. Based on this, my next car was going to have nav no matter what. I guess I will need to evaluate it.

Reminds me of somthing my wife said when I said I was going to get nav no matter what. She said "What if it only has one voice, and its the voice of Fran Drescher"
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Have you noticed any improvements in the F30 loaner, if it has nav that is?
Yeah, it's a lot better.....no nav! LOL.
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Old 04-24-2012, 11:43 AM
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Based on this, my next car was going to have nav no matter what. I guess I will need to evaluate it.
Although the BMW Nav has its faults, it is still worth it when spending this much on a car like this. It is integral to other display features of the car and for most, it does provide directions in a contemporary display using standard maps. It also will probably increase resell and has the possibility of being upgraded over time. This is a tough group here.

Do not let the heavy downer opinions here deter you from trying it out yourself before buying a car like this without it. I have seen worse and better and although it has had a few routings that leave me shaking my head, it is nice to have. Would all the negative posters have ordered it without the nav as "bad" as it is if they had to do it over - I doubt it.
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Although the BMW Nav has its faults, it is still worth it when spending this much on a car like this. It is integral to other display features of the car and for most, it does provide directions in a contemporary display using standard maps. It also will probably increase resell and has the possibility of being upgraded over time. This is a tough group here.

Do not let the heavy downer opinions here deter you from trying it out yourself before buying a car like this without it. It is not as bad and I have seen worse and better and although it has had a few routings that leave me shaking my head, it is nice to have. Would all the negative posters have ordered it without the nav as "bad" as it is if they had to do it over - I doubt it.
I agree with your points!
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Yes, really, it is. Don't make me break out my diagrams!
Well as of now now it seems good ... Yet to see those weird routings... may be at that time i will agree with you
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Although the BMW Nav has its faults, it is still worth it when spending this much on a car like this. It is integral to other display features of the car and for most, it does provide directions in a contemporary display using standard maps. It also will probably increase resell and has the possibility of being upgraded over time. This is a tough group here.

Do not let the heavy downer opinions here deter you from trying it out yourself before buying a car like this without it. I have seen worse and better and although it has had a few routings that leave me shaking my head, it is nice to have. Would all the negative posters have ordered it without the nav as "bad" as it is if they had to do it over - I doubt it.
Agreed.
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Ok, since this thread is recent, had to post this that just happened. Apparently, the car thinks a U Turn is an acceptable maneuver. WTF!!!!!

Edit, this car seems to think that making U Turns is BETTER than taking an exit ramp which causes you to pass a road and then loop around. This can be seen in my other posts elsewhere.

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The nav looks great on the HUD!
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The NAV is worth getting but compared to the outstanding other traits of the car, it is relatively weak. My $100 Tom Tom gives much more efficient directions and adjusts for traffic much more effectively. For instance, I live in NY and it has an affinity of guiding me through times square without taking traffic into account. Major disappointment is that it does not tell you current speed limit of current road and doesn't give street names on turn directions. I inquired about speed feature and was told it would be available in an upcoming HUD release but not on screen. It works well as a helper in a bind but I still put my Tom Tom on when I do a longer trip or want more reliable instruction. Not trying to be a hater but the Tom Tom does work much better.
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The prime issue for most with the nav appears to be flawed routing logic, and I have experienced that as well. That said, it works, and most of the reroutes due to traffic conditions have been effective..
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