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Old 07-26-2014, 01:44 PM
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2014 Prices Below Invoice?

I've heard folks have been able to get below invoice on a new 2014 model recently.

Anyone else have the same experience?

I've talked to one dealership and they are offering $500 below invoice, but when I asked for the BMW incentive of $2500 in addition to that they said no.

Are folks out there getting $3000+ off invoice for in stock 2014 series 5 models?

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Old 07-26-2014, 01:57 PM
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So they basically offered you invoice+2k (before incentives). Shop around, you can definitely do much better than that.
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Old 07-26-2014, 02:04 PM
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So they basically offered you invoice+2k (before incentives). Shop around, you can definitely do much better than that.
Yes - I was shocked they tried to sell that to me. Ridiculous that they are suggesting prices that high. I'm just trying to get a sense of how low they should be.

I'm getting great advice from everyone so please keep it coming.
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:28 PM
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Shop around. 2015's are on their way soon. Your shopping may be done via phone and email- no need to actually to go into dealerships
that are inconvenient. Try PA/NJ dealers if no one in MD is willing to save you big money.
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:06 PM
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While some people do get below invoice pricing, it is usually after the next model year is on the showroom. Realistically, you should aim for invoice in addition to the $2500 incentive.
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:48 PM
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I was offered just over 8k off while looking at ordering a 14 550 a few weeks ago.


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Old 07-26-2014, 05:59 PM
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:33 AM
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While some people do get below invoice pricing, it is usually after the next model year is on the showroom. Realistically, you should aim for invoice in addition to the $2500 incentive.
+1 This is what I did plus I am doing the Drive Event and adding another $1000 off. MSRP at $73,100... Cap Cost is $64,400. They are basically giving them away since the 2015 are right around the corner plus they want to move the inventory. Especially on a 550i since there aren't nearly as many out there on the lots compared to the 528 an 535. Easy deal to make. Good luck!
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:18 AM
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For a 2014 F10, one can get invoice minus $1250 minus all incentives. A friend of mine in the Bay Area got this at her local dealership last week. A fellow fester made the CA recommendation. She wasn't pulling a fast one on me - I was visiting and went with her to take delivery. Note - this was not an ordered car but an in-stock one (or procured locally).

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Old 07-27-2014, 12:05 PM
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If you start at Invoice plus $500, then subtract the $2,500 Build Out Credit and the $1,000 Drive Event Credit, your transaction cost should be $3,000 below invoice. Then your $1,000 BMWCCA Rebate covers your registration, Doc fee and first month's payment. And the current pull-ahead program really helps you pull the trigger.

Can you possibly get lower? Maybe. But... how much is your time worth? Remember, the supply of available 2014's is shrinking daily, and the longer you wait, the less likely you are to find the "right" car with the right color and options. While you are trying to shave that last $100 off the deal, the car you want may be sold to someone else. Tick, tock.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:19 PM
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Thanks for perspective. Unfortunately I would be a first time bmw buyer so I am not a member of the bmwcca. And it sounds like you have to be a member for a full year before you can get the $1000 discount.

At this point I have found a dealer that is basically offering 7% below invoice or 14% off MSRP for a 2014 528 xi (which includes the $2500 dealer cash). That discount factors in the destination charge as well. So not sure if I will find a better deal right now but still have a few calls out.
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Old 07-27-2014, 12:24 PM
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If you start at Invoice plus $500, then subtract the $2,500 Build Out Credit and the $1,000 Drive Event Credit, your transaction cost should be $3,000 below invoice. Then your $1,000 BMWCCA Rebate covers your registration, Doc fee and first month's payment. And the current pull-ahead program really helps you pull the trigger.

Can you possibly get lower? Maybe. But... how much is your time worth? Remember, the supply of available 2014's is shrinking daily, and the longer you wait, the less likely you are to find the "right" car with the right color and options. While you are trying to shave that last $100 off the deal, the car you want may be sold to someone else. Tick, tock.

Good point about the supply shrinking and the right car becoming less available and chasing around looking to save an extra $100 off the deal is not a good exercise.

However, the OP said that his local dealer was offering $500 below invoice AND NO $2500 add on incentive from BMW corporate. They're certainly being quite greedy.

He should easily be able to get a deal somewhere else at least at invoice + the $2500 add on incentive from BMW corporate. And many others are doing even better than that. Saving $2000+ is worth the extra effort in my opinion.
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Old 07-27-2014, 08:15 PM
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Please reread my post. I said $3,000 UNDER invoice was a very reasonable deal. The deal the OP described is not.

While some may try to get MORE than $3,000 below invoice, they will likely only succeed on the last day of the month, taking a car that has been sitting in inventory for several months, due to a weird combination of colors and options.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:59 PM
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Just to add - EPP discount on the F10 (2014 and 2015 models) is $1500 and a 20 basis point discount on the lease money factor apart from all other programs running at that time except USAA or ED or College Grad program (don't know about BMWCCA).
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Old 07-28-2014, 02:09 AM
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Just to add - EPP discount on the F10 (2014 and 2015 models) is $1500 and a 20 basis point discount on the lease money factor apart from all other programs running at that time except USAA or ED or College Grad program (don't know about BMWCCA).
Not everyone has epp programs.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:45 PM
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Quick update -- looks like best pricing I can find is in the 14-15% below MSRP for a new 2014 528 XI. Much better than the first dealer I was talking to. Most were in the 10-11% off range.

Not sure if I will find better pricing in decent combinations at end of next month.

So I may take the latest offer.

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:33 PM
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15% under invoice is a good deal, but depending on the market you're in, a 2015 ordered from the factory after incentives can be 10%+ under invoice. It just depends on whether you can find one equipped the way you want it.
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Old 07-28-2014, 02:34 PM
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Quick update -- looks like best pricing I can find is in the 14-15% below MSRP for a new 2014 528 XI. Much better than the first dealer I was talking to. Most were in the 10-11% off range.

Not sure if I will find better pricing in decent combinations at end of next month.

So I may take the latest offer.

Thanks to all for the inputs.
Go for it. As been said by a few, you'll keep chasing a few extra dollars off and wind up with a car in colors/options that aren't what you want.

You've come a long way since $500 under invoice.
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:05 PM
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So is it safe to assume $500 over invoice + all incentives is not such a good deal anymore? Can anyone post real data on how much you were able to to negotiate below invoice before all invoices??
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:16 PM
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So at first I focused on getting to a price below invoice (which already factored in the $2500 dealer cash).

However, when I was finalizing the deal I decided to focus on % off MSRP as that factors in their delivery charge. That way, I knew the final number I would have to look at when figuring out taxes, etc.

So when I say I got over 14% off MSRP, the only charges added to that negotiated price were the $299 dealer fee (which seems standard), tags/title, and sales tax. That combined is the Out-the-Door cost.

I found a mix of dealers -- some who only wanted to offer $1-2k below invoice (after factoring in the $2500 dealer cash) -- others were very aggressive -- I suppose it all depends on how many cars they still have in their lot.

I hope this helps.
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:19 PM
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So at first I focused on getting to a price below invoice (which already factored in the $2500 dealer cash).

However, when I was finalizing the deal I decided to focus on % off MSRP as that factors in their delivery charge. That way, I knew the final number I would have to look at when figuring out taxes, etc.

So when I say I got over 14% off MSRP, the only charges added to that negotiated price were the $299 dealer fee (which seems standard), tags/title, and sales tax. That combined is the Out-the-Door cost.

I found a mix of dealers -- some who only wanted to offer $1-2k below invoice (after factoring in the $2500 dealer cash) -- others were very aggressive -- I suppose it all depends on how many cars they still have in their lot.

I hope this helps.
So 15% below MSRP was after all incentives..?
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:26 PM
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Yes -- after all incentives the price of the vehicle was slightly less than 15% off MSRP (actually 14.5% to be exact) -- keep in mind only incentive I really had to work with was the $2500 dealer cash - as I have never owned a BMW before.
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So is it safe to assume $500 over invoice + all incentives is not such a good deal anymore? Can anyone post real data on how much you were able to to negotiate below invoice before all invoices??
It depends on the level of competition in your market. As an example, here in Southern California there are a dozen or so dealers to choose from so competition is intense and using one of the forum sponsor Dealers, $1000 under invoice before incentives is easy to obtain and that's the deal I got on my 2014 factory order. Other members in smaller markets have indicated that even $1000 OVER invoice is impossible. $500 over invoice for a factory order is certainly not a *bad* deal at all. For reference, the Costco program here in So Cal is $850 over invoice - not bad, not great.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:12 PM
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So is it safe to assume $500 over invoice + all incentives is not such a good deal anymore? Can anyone post real data on how much you were able to to negotiate below invoice before all invoices??
I see you're from NJ like me. When a new car is released $500 over invoice + all incentives IS a good deal. The 2014 5 Series is now a year old- even though it's a brand new car- because the 2015 5 Series may now be ordered. So, $500-$1000 under invoice and maybe better + all incentives is very doable.
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Thanks all..i appreciate the inputs...i guess i am switching from trying for $500 over invoice to $1500 below..and hope to finalize somewhere in between..
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