F10 M Performance 535i Exhaust is a Joke!

Car was running rich. Soot all over my bumper. Excessive gas useage. I saw the sign like Ace of Base would say

Originally Posted by WB&BLUE5

Car was running rich. Soot all over my bumper. Excessive gas useage. I saw the sign like Ace of Base would say

hahah crackin up over here. love the ace of base reference

Originally Posted by enigma

I am not surprised at all. In fact, it's par for the course. Half the stuff on the M-Performance catalog are non-performance related (e.g. carbon-fiber mirror caps), and BMW is whoring out the "M" brand for more "M"oney and "M"arketing.

I gotta agree. I mean, I'm having fun with the exploiting of M badges on my "M Sport" since I feel that this car and the engineering put into it is so damn good that it honestly is worthy of an "M" or any big badge, however, fact is that it's whoring the badge out. Fortunately BMW engineered such a great car, I don't see people giving them much crap for it.

However, the "M Performance" parts are just the line. I was astonished in how there are no performance parts within them! WTF? At least "M Sport" is more appropriate, but these things literally SAY "Performance". You can get rocker panel decals that say "M Performance" on them, on an F10 without even M Sport Package. C'mon BMW, clean it up, "M Performance" is way too far and a surefire way to eventually truly dilute and kill the specialness and "power" of the M badge they so depend upon.

Ive been chewing on this exhaust for sometime. This week I finally had the opportunity to cruise around with all the windows down and I quickly came to the conclusion that I will pursue the msport exhaust. The performance of the car is good enough for me, sound wise I almost feel like I'm driving a Lexus hybrid at times. I need sound !!! I want to here that I6 in all its glory!!!

As far as whoring the "M", I somewhat agree, but its nothing like "AMG"....at least not yet.


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Originally Posted by LukeS

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As far as whoring the "M", I somewhat agree, but its nothing like "AMG"....at least not yet.

I beg to disagree - it's already much worse than AMG. Not that I'm a MB fanboy - to the contrary, I love BMW in spite of many disappointments - but putting 10 'M' stickers on a modest 528 is silly And of course, none of them has anything to do with performance.

Yeah, M-B actually doesn't put any AMG badges on their Sport-Package cars, which you have to respect. My W211 E with what was then a very rare and expensive AMG Sport Package had exhaust tips with AMG carved into them. However, as the Sport Package become generic/whored/out/free, M-B stopped using the "AMG" word in it, and took off any signs of AMG badging. The only way you can get any AMG logos at all on an M-B is if you get the "AMG Wheel Package" where it comes on the rims.

Now if we're talking the *LOOK*, then yes, M-B has whored the AMG look out so much that who cares about badging. The most normalized M-B's have what were originally designed to be "AMG Sport Packages", they don't even charge a penny for it. BMW at least keeps the "M" look exclusive, which IMO allows them to get more away with giving us badges, as we get more out of the package and pay for it.

Originally Posted by MoldCAD

I beg to disagree - it's already much worse than AMG. Not that I'm a MB fanboy - to the contrary, I love BMW in spite of many disappointments - but putting 10 'M' stickers on a modest 528 is silly And of course, none of them has anything to do with performance.

I will agree the m badges are a little much, but other then the small symbols on the wheels there is nothing external. not sure if this is just my area...However, look at a Benz dealer lot and look at the percentage of AMG looking models versus standard, then look at a BMW lot for msport percentages. It is exactly the opposite and you see it on the street. Almost every Benz I see on the road is sport and looks AMG like. BMW is the exact opposite. I mainly see the standard versus msport and probably because you need to pay for it, which I am in favor of and I hope BMW continues to do. However, if they continue the trend and keep making it a cheaper option, it will be played out like amg.


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Originally Posted by LukeS

I will agree the m badges are a little much, but other then the small symbols on the wheels there is nothing external. not sure if this is just my area...However, look at a Benz dealer lot and look at the percentage of AMG looking models versus standard, then look at a BMW lot for msport percentages. It is exactly the opposite and you see it on the street. Almost every Benz I see on the road is sport and looks AMG like. BMW is the exact opposite. I mainly see the standard versus msport and probably because you need to pay for it, which I am in favor of and I hope BMW continues to do. However, if they continue the trend and keep making it a cheaper option, it will be played out like amg.


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This is one of the reasons I jumped from M-B. It's hard to be an enthusiast of a mass-market brand who whores out what used to be their most individualized package. The AMG look is as standard as the standard AnyCar look these days. The M Sport being a more expensive option was part of what made me come to BMW. Yes, the M is getting marketed out to hell, but at least the package itself is still unique, which IMO warrants them putting badges here and there on it, whereas M-B could never do that, as that would mean literally every Benz on the street would have an AMG badge on it. As long as BMW still ask a premium for and keep the "M" look relatively "exclusive", I won't chide them too much for over-bading 4 Cyl cars with it.