Official F10 Coding thread---Exploring Your F10

@dreamcar: the keyfob still doesn't work, there must be a different setting for it, just like I had to enable a setting to close the mirrors

Originally Posted by svache

@dreamcar: the keyfob still doesn't work, there must be a different setting for it, just like I had to enable a setting to close the mirrors

Probably a dumb question but are you holding the lock button down for at least 5 seconds?

Also, the reason they don't automatically fold on the first touch is some climates can have a freezing rain or ice build up that would prevent the mirrors from folding consequently they would break when you tried to lock the car. Having the delay allows an owner to lock the car without fear of damanging the mirrors.

Anyone doing this in the San Antonio area?

@kman_bmw;
If not, its only 3.5 hours to H-Town.

A sad evening indeed! I removed my JB3 and took 5AC and 8TH out of my VO in preparation for the trip to the dealer for the global update a week Monday. The fun must be shelved for the next 10 days so guys, carry on I'll be lurking as much as I can.

Originally Posted by Sharbotcom

A sad evening indeed! I removed my JB3 and took 5AC and 8TH out of my VO in preparation for the trip to the dealer for the global update a week Monday. The fun must be shelved for the next 10 days so guys, carry on I'll be lurking as much as I can.

I took my car this morning to get the Global update. I told them that when slowing down then go to accelerate their is a delay/hesitation. Also sitting at a stop there's rough idle and it happens intermittently, also idles rough when you first start it.

They said they could not duplicate it and they checked the DME faults and none was stored. They took it on a road test and the test was ok!

What do we have to tell them to get this Global update? They also said that the SIB does not pertain to my car!

Originally Posted by svache

@dreamcar: the keyfob still doesn't work, there must be a different setting for it, just like I had to enable a setting to close the mirrors

what did you have to enable that was different then the f10 make mirrors fold?

Unless something is broken, or can be duplicated, it's very hard to get a software update... I was told the dealer won't get compensation from BMW unless they can show a real problem...

sadly, but like most companies, BMW is run by the accountants...

@cn555ic;
The F30 has two codes, one for fold on lock, and a second one for unfold on unlock, but unfortunately it is working only for CA and not his Fob:

ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN
ASP_AUSKLAPPEN_NACH_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

With the F10, its one code for both fold and unfold, and it works for both CA and the Fob.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@cn555ic;
The F30 has two codes, one for fold on lock, and a second one for unfold on unlock, but unfortunately it is working only for CA and not his Fob:

ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN
ASP_AUSKLAPPEN_NACH_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

With the F10, its one code for both fold and unfold, and it works for both CA and the Fob.

That is quite strange that it doesnt work. I am puzzled as this function has worked for all E90s in the past that I have coded to date. I wonder what has changed?

@cn555ic;
Well, it's too early to tell really if it's all F30's. He could be the exception like @mjgood seems to be with the F10, who also can't get the Fob working, whereas CA is working fine. More F30 testing is needed. And why there seems to be these rare exceptions in cases like this and TPMS makes absolutely no sense.

@sharbot: Yep, I think I tried it up to half a minute, but nothing happens with the keyfob. Closing the mirrors was also in a different function and not included in the function as it is with the F10 so I'm guessing it's the same with the keyfob (it also only mentions comfort closing but no key).

I am aware about the reason why they didn't make this automatic but what I meant mainly is that I think that we should have an option in our menu where we can select to have it automatically closed. I know others have freezing conditions but we don't have that so much here in HI


@cn555ic: I think I mistyped myself there.. what I meant to say is that I needed to do something different in order to have them opened after they were locked by comfort closing (meaning the handles).

In the F30, to close them it is the following function:
FEM_BODY - 3110 PfExternalMirrorMaster - ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

To open I had to enable this function:
FEM_BODY - 3110 PfExternalMirrorMaster - ASP_AUSKLAPPEN_NACH_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

For some reason they don't automatically unfold if you do not enable the latter one

edit: and then I noticed Shawn already answered this question haha

I agree with Shawn that we indeed need more people testing these functions. Thankfully several of the F30 owners on that other site already got their cable and are downloading the software so I hope to confirm whether or not it is the same for them when they work on it

One thing that is possible is that it is different for mjgood and myself because maybe we have a certain option on our car that others don't have? I wouldn't know but I'm sure we'll find out

Hmm I think I found the setting what prevents us from using the keyfob but I am not 100% sure.. but it would make sure, the description is: "komfortschliessen über funkfernbedienung (FBD)aktiv: erlaub nicht_aktiv: niemals möglich, auch nicht im Nahbereichcomfort closing over remote control (FBD). The setting is current at nicht_aktiv, which would make it seem as if the keyfob is not activated for comfort access closing, making it impossible to fold the mirrors (since the mirrors folding is part of the comfort access).

This setting is to be found in my cafs under FEM - 3053 PwMaster - KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB

I am unable to test this for now but anyone any thoughts on this?


edit: I just noticed that this is actually listed on the F10 cheat sheet as the power window and moon roof closing through keyfob but that doesn't make sense to the description given.. is it possible that you guys had this enabled BEFORE you had the ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN function enabled? Could anyone test this by setting KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB to nicht_aktiv and then see if the mirrors still fold by using the keyfob?

I have key fob enabled for mirror, sun roof and window cliose/open. My car is coded that way from factory.

Meaning if you guys want me to check what my code setting is, pls just send me a list of variables to check?

Mine is F07 as opposed to F10 but should be the same.

To answer some of the question asked before, my 3rd button open the small hatch while my 4th button open the big hatch. I am still struggling in finding the variable to change the inside switch to open the big hatch.

Actually I like to ask, can some one please teach me how to use esys to program a part so that it can be used for the car?

Specifically say if a module is broken and we need to replace, how do we program the module so that it can be used for the car without getting an error code?

I currently have my CID that is registering an error code in ISIS/D because it isn't coded for my car!

Thanks

Svache. Yes you needed to make that active for the key fob to work and close mirrors windows and sunroof. I think you found your issue!! Lol
It just how it works.

@ello888..

TAL-Processing under Expert Mode is where you program an ECU, you will first have to create a TAL file, which is done under Comfort Mode | TAL-Calculating....

Once you load the TAL file you will be able to see what can be done to an ECU (a lot !), but I haven't found instructions yet that detail the process.... ISTA-P is probably the best/safest way to work with ECU's in this regard..

I'm considering getting ISTA-P and the ICOM Emulator (a physical ICOM is very expensive) which both run in VMWare, so I can work with the car in a more guided fashion.....

Originally Posted by cn555ic

what did you have to enable that was different then the f10 make mirrors fold?

I now have the mirrors closing on my F10 with the key fob...

CAS | 3003 FH MASTER | KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB | aktiv .....which also allows the windows to close

@mjgood;

So, you are saying:
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB = Closes mirrors + windows + moon roof through Key Fob

Then, does this also control the mirrors, albeit for CA?
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA = Closes windows + moon roof through comfort access

And if so, what exactly is this doing?
ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

I can't test at the moment, but I am updating the Cheat Sheet, and would like to have this clarified if possible.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@mjgood;

So, you are saying:
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB = Closes mirrors + windows + moon roof through Key Fob

Then, does this also control the mirrors, albeit for CA?
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA = Closes windows + moon roof through comfort access

And if so, what exactly is this doing?
ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

I can't test at the moment, but I am updating the Cheat Sheet, and would like to have this clarified if possible.

Just tested settings.....

KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB aktiv, closes mirrors, windows, moon roof via key fob
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA aktiv, closes mirrors, windows, moon roof via CA

ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN needs to be aktiv otherwise key fob and CA don't work

note: KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA was defaulted aktiv on my car......

@mjgood,
Thanks. Just so I am clear, ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN by itself does nothing, yet if it is not set to aktiv, neither KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB nor KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA will work?

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@mjgood;

So, you are saying:
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB = Closes mirrors + windows + moon roof through Key Fob

Then, does this also control the mirrors, albeit for CA?
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA = Closes windows + moon roof through comfort access

And if so, what exactly is this doing?
ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN

I can't test at the moment, but I am updating the Cheat Sheet, and would like to have this clarified if possible.

Shawn from my experience with the E90s, yes Komfortschliessung_FB needs to be active for key fob to work in tandem with mirrors/windows and moonroof...While the Komfortshchliessung_PA is for comfort access to work.

@cn555ic,
Yes, I understand that. My question though is specifically about ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN, which mind you is in the FRM module and not the CAS Module.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@cn555ic,
Yes, I understand that. My question though is specifically about ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN, which mind you is in the FRM module and not the CAS Module.

Yes its very similar to E90 which is also in the FRM module...It needs to have both Komfortschliessung_FB and the mirror to be active for it to work. On the E90s its in the FRM or NFRM module under
ASP_spiegel_komfort_einklapp

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@mjgood,
Thanks. Just so I am clear, ASP_BEIKLAPPEN_BEI_KOMFORTSCHLIESSEN by itself does nothing, yet if it is not set to aktiv, neither KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB nor KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_PA will work?

Correct.... I tested different combinations of the 3, all had to be aktiv for everything to work....

I sure would like to have BMW's coding bible, I'm sure it's guarded like Fort Knox.....