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Old 05-10-2012, 10:16 AM
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The sinking fund is sunk!

Well, when my '06 X3 turned 50K miles I opted not to get the extended warranty -- thinking I would roll the dice and put the money I saved into a "sinking fund". Well, yesterday I went out and found a pool of oil under my left front wheel area. It wasn't engine or transmission oil, so I thought it might be powersteering fluid. Wrong! It was a leaking strut at just over 80K miles. So off to the trusted indy and the bill will sink what is left of the fund. I have to say that I should have gotten the extended warranty and I now firmly believe that you should not own a BMW out of warranty! They are just too expensive and prone to costly failures (I have never had a leaking strut in any car or truck I have owned over many, many years and marques) without a good extended warranty. I have to say the first 50K miles the car was bulletproof! Then about every 10K miles something happens and I fully expect that to continue until I get rid of the car -- which will be sooner rather than later now.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:44 AM
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I don't think the extended warranty covers struts. So you would have been out of pocket for that anyway. So that means your sinking fund as an alternative to purchasing a warranty is still intact!

I realize my comment doesn't address your basic conclusion that your BMW has not been reliable after 50K miles. Sorry about that, hope you enjoy your next car more!
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:54 PM
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My commiserations on this bit of bad luck.

I did a search to see if this was a common X3 problem and only found one, coincidentally also an '06, but with only 60K miles.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=468423

You might find the quoted repair cost at an indy useful to evaluate the estimate you get from your shop.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:24 PM
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I have to say the first 50K miles the car was bulletproof! Then about every 10K miles something happens and I fully expect that to continue until I get rid of the car -- which will be sooner rather than later now.
UncleJ, sorry to hear about the problems you are having. Besides the strut, was there anything else serious?
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:55 PM
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Sorry to hear about that!

I am close to 115000 miles now. Been without a safety net for 15k miles now. Except for the bad vapor barrier, everything else done would/could happen to any marque.

Hopefully things get better for you!
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I had the same problem last year. I've even mentioned this on the forum before.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:48 PM
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I had the same problem last year. I've even mentioned this on the forum before.
Don't say that - I don't want any more issues for a while!

I am already planning on ball joints next!
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:08 PM
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I had the same problem last year. I've even mentioned this on the forum before.
So you did - and just last month too:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=616074
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:22 AM
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Thanks for the support guys! Anyway I feel a little better knowing that the extended warranty would not have covered the strut anyway. Ok, the final tally at the indy came to $1700 for both struts (I wanted to replace both at the same time) and assorted mounts, bushings etc. That pretty well deleted the sinking fund after the MAF replacement, fuel return valve replacement, and a couple of other lesser items. I have to say the car rides much better now and feels very sharp -- I don't know why it should but it does. Makes me remember why I bought it in the first place.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:42 AM
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Our "new" 2004 X3 died on the way to work this morning for a while. Im bringing it back to the dealer under warranty Monday. Very disappointed and wifey was late to her seminar!
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:07 AM
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struts go out "often", just avoid potholes. its not that expensive anyway, $200 parts, 2 hours of work + alignment
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Thanks for the support guys! Anyway I feel a little better knowing that the extended warranty would not have covered the strut anyway. Ok, the final tally at the indy came to $1700 for both struts (I wanted to replace both at the same time) and assorted mounts, bushings etc.
That's roughly what I paid (actually I paid a bit less then needed $150 for the alignment) last year as well at a good (but slightly pricey) indy shop. And of course, $70 for my one-day car rental because it's on the other side of town
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:44 AM
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I don't mind pricey if the work is done right! I did a quick check at the dealer for both struts and was quoted "in the neighborhood of $2000 or so" -- I would have gotten a free loaner from them, but I paid $80 for a two day rental of a very nice Buick Lacrosse -- nice ride, but very floaty. It did have a killer a/c unit that would chill beef! I did love the seats though, very comfortable, almost Volvo-like. I wonder how the General can make such a great A/C unit and yet the foreigners have a tough time making something that even approaches their output capabilities.

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Old 05-12-2012, 04:47 PM
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I just looked up struts, they are 240 ea ,mounts are 40-50 each. You are looking at 800-900 for all parts and alignment. How does that become a 1700-2000 dollar job. Is it a 10 hour job?? These prices do seem over inflated. A while back I was getting wifes X3 free maintenance performed and I overheard the Service advisor or whatever they call them nowadays quote 750 for a rear brake job on a 3 series. I looked up price of new pads and rotors and the prices weren't any more than any other car. I think the parts were $150 or so I think with these cars Audi,BMW Benz, mechanics raise the price a bit. If it were my car I would look for a DIY do it myself. I do try to do all I can.
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I hope it all works out, UncleJ.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:54 AM
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I have a simple philosphy about repairs out of warranty and ownership. If I have to pay the equivalent or two cars payments twice in one year the car is gone. And never own an SUV or awd out of warranty after 75k miles. That is when things start to go. So far the only out of warranty expense I have had was a result of my favorite crap dealership Passport BMW's mechanic putting a shield back wrong and it wearing through a coolant hose. Couldn't prove it was them but the indy mechanic I had fix it said it was from who oever worked on the car last as it was put back that way. Not came loose.

Good Luck UJ. I think it's time for you to look into a new toy anyway. Get the Volvo Xc60 and give us a report.

Me, if there are funds leftover from the house sale I am treating myself to a new ride come November my 50'th birthday. If Dinan has the chip for the N55 X3 I may consider staying with BMW. If not its on to the Audi S4.
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Me, if there are funds leftover from the house sale I am treating myself to a new ride come November my 50'th birthday. If Dinan has the chip for the N55 X3 I may consider staying with BMW. If not its on to the Audi S4.
Go for the Audi! You've been saying you want one forever!
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I just looked up struts, they are 240 ea ,mounts are 40-50 each. You are looking at 800-900 for all parts and alignment. How does that become a 1700-2000 dollar job. Is it a 10 hour job?? These prices do seem over inflated. A while back I was getting wifes X3 free maintenance performed and I overheard the Service advisor or whatever they call them nowadays quote 750 for a rear brake job on a 3 series. I looked up price of new pads and rotors and the prices weren't any more than any other car. I think the parts were $150 or so I think with these cars Audi,BMW Benz, mechanics raise the price a bit. If it were my car I would look for a DIY do it myself. I do try to do all I can.
Agreed, that's awful high for front struts. What's your Indy hrly rate?
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Thanks for the input! The DIY days are gone for me, too much hassle. All I do now is add a quart of oil when it needs it (rarely) and change the cabin and engine air filters. Everything else I leave to the professional wrenches. Could I have saved some money, probably yes, but I am "comfortable" with my decision and have confidence in the indy's work based on many years of experience with them. I am seriously looking now, but have moved away from the XC60 which I really liked, toward a more mileage friendly (probably diesel) replacement. If the new Passat came in a Sportwagon with a TDI I would probably get that, but it doesn't so I have to look further. The wife's A4 is ready to go too, and she wants a C300 which is fine, nice car and very solid (important!) but I need something a little more mileage friendly as I do much more driving than she does.
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The Golf Wagon (marketed as a Jetta Sportwagen in the US) is a solid choice if you want good value and space.
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...If Dinan has the chip for the N55 X3 I may consider staying with BMW. If not its on to the Audi S4.
Ev, Slightly off topic, but out of curiosity, would you consider the Q5 as a replacement to X3?
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...The DIY days are gone for me, too much hassle. All I do now is add a quart of oil when it needs it (rarely) and change the cabin and engine air filters. Everything else I leave to the professional wrenches. Could I have saved some money, probably yes, but I am "comfortable" with my decision and have confidence in the indy's work based on many years of experience with them...
My viewpoint too. Had my fair share of DIY on VW Beatle and Golf in my younger days, and decided long time ago to have it done by whoever ...not that I cannot do it myself (not so sure about today's cars that's all play station and tupper ware (plastics/covers on the engine ), but we just don't have the time and patience anymore .


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...I am seriously looking now, but have moved away from the XC60 which I really liked, toward a more mileage friendly (probably diesel) replacement. If the new Passat came in a Sportwagon with a TDI I would probably get that, but it doesn't so I have to look further. The wife's A4 is ready to go too, and she wants a C300 which is fine, nice car and very solid (important!) but I need something a little more mileage friendly as I do much more driving than she does.
Diesel powered, makes more and more sense these days - can almost say that I swear by it nowadays. Cannot think that I'll easily convert to petrol again .
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Heya! Glad to see you visiting us! How have you been?
It's been a while - nice to visit back here and see the usual crowd still going strong . Been family planning, gotten used to the third (new) member of our family taking much of our time. Thinking of getting an X3 again (seeing that I now actually have a family ) and what better forum to visit but Bimmerfest for decent advice and information, and plain fun reading too! Great to see the familiar posters/readers again...
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Ev, Slightly off topic, but out of curiosity, would you consider the Q5 as a replacement to X3?
UncleJ?

Drove one and too "Floaty". Absolutely love the interior, but not enough to give up the connected feel the X3 gives. Drove the new sport 335i and almost bought it on the spot, but then I remembered my 2007 X3 debacle and the 335's poor recent history.

UJ, Thought of this on the way home the other day. Maybe your struts have been defective all along and this is why you have such a harsh ride?

Although expensive this is an opportunity to get premium struts and shocks installed that will tailor more to your "feel" that you need.

sidenote: One of the things that keeps me interested in the BMW. This website. I have had some great conversations. Some really good, and some downright abusive, but all an all interesting. I think I would miss that if I left BMW.
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