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Old 05-16-2012, 06:48 PM
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It looks like you can't get Active Cruise Control in the M5 or M6???
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:09 PM
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:20 PM
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It looks like you can't get Active Cruise Control in the M5 or M6???
Given the tastes of most M Car drivers I know, this does not surprise me at all!

I have no intention of driving my M5 in automatic mode, let alone using cruise control.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:23 AM
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Hey that's my favorite combo with Sakhir Orange tints all around!!!
On Tuesday, I was able to build an M6 with the SO/SO combo, but NOW it is no longer available. I showed it to Mrs Dunderhi and thought it might be a bit loud... even for me. She suggested that Mojave Brown/Fine Line Oak/Canyon Brown might be a better combination in the M6.

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Mojave is a stunning color on the M5. Shame it is not offered with the MSport package on the cooking F10's.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:29 AM
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It would be nice if you can have the calipers be a different color. The blue doesn't really go with some of the exterior colors they offer.

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Mojave is a stunning color on the M5. Shame it is not offered with the MSport package on the cooking F10's.
Since 2012 Mojave is not offered at all on regular F10s.

However Champagne Quartz and Citrin Black are also stunning. Check this out - Citrin Black and Platinum.




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Old 05-17-2012, 07:23 AM
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Yeah, I really like Citrin black. Reminds me of Volvo's Ember Black. Lot of color, browns, golds, purples, etc. It REALLy pops in the sun. My friend's uncle has a Citrin Black / Champagne 7 series. It's phenomenal.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I really like Citrin black. Reminds me of Volvo's Ember Black. Lot of color, browns, golds, purples, etc. It REALLy pops in the sun. My friend's uncle has a Citrin Black / Champagne 7 series. It's phenomenal.
Must be hard to maintain though?

I have been so careful with my Imperial Blue to keep the finish perfect that it is a huge time sync to wash the car so carefully.

This is why i am planning Monte Carlo Blue on the M5.
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Must be hard to maintain though?

I have been so careful with my Imperial Blue to keep the finish perfect that it is a huge time sync to wash the car so carefully.

This is why i am planning Monte Carlo Blue on the M5.
Anything other than silver or light gray is hard to maintain. Just a matter of what it shows. White shows not so much dust, but shows bug guts, heavier dirt, etc. Dark colors show any kind of dirt, mist, etc.

I would think a lighter metallic would be better than a darker, but still, it does have "Black" in the name.
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Must be hard to maintain though?

I have been so careful with my Imperial Blue to keep the finish perfect that it is a huge time sync to wash the car so carefully.

This is why i am planning Monte Carlo Blue on the M5.
If Iwould buy an M5 (which I am not) I would take MCB.
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It looks like you can't get Active Cruise Control in the M5 or M6???
Don't pay attention to Stealth Pilot. He likes to tailgate and hates cruise control whether it is active or not. For the rest of us ACC is a very useful option. I think it is mandatory on long intercity trips. ACC is only compatable with the automatic transmission, not with the DCT.

Also, the M5 is not available with xDrive, which is mandatory in Pittsburgh in the winter. My dream car is an xDrive M5 with ACC. But until then I'm stuck with the plebian 550i xDrive.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:14 PM
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Don't pay attention to Stealth Pilot. He likes to tailgate and hates cruise control whether it is active or not. For the rest of us ACC is a very useful option. I think it is mandatory on long intercity trips. ACC is only compatable with the automatic transmission, not with the DCT.

Also, the M5 is not available with xDrive, which is mandatory in Pittsburgh in the winter. My dream car is an xDrive M5 with ACC. But until then I'm stuck with the plebian 550i xDrive.
You're stuck with plebeian xDrive because you think and drive like a plebeian. You want a lazy man's car which operates its throttle by itself, and which doesn't require changing to tires. I see plenty of Canadians and Scandinavians buying M5s with no problem.
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"My dream car is an xDrive M5 with ACC"
It's called Panamera Turbo...
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"My dream car is an xDrive M5 with ACC"
It's called Panamera Turbo...
no, no, no, that car needs options! Otherwise its a butter face. Minimum to spend on that car is 156k (not including what I would consider a vip the power kit for 27k) at that price I could get an m5 and an x5 50i or a used x5m


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You're stuck with plebeian xDrive because you think and drive like a plebeian. You want a lazy man's car which operates its throttle by itself, and which doesn't require changing to tires. I see plenty of Canadians and Scandinavians buying M5s with no problem.
I want xDrive because I have to drive in the snow on the Pittsburgh hills in the winter. I like ACC because I frequently drive 6 or 7 hours on the interstate on long trips. My first four Bimmers were RWD. I have driven RWD cars in the winter living in Ann Arbor, Rochester, and Pittsburgh. However, two winters ago we had 3 feet of snow in Pittsburgh and I had to leave my 650i shod with four Dunlop Wintersport M3s in my garage for three weeks and drive my wife's or my stepson's FWD cars shod with four Blizzaks. Once my E39 M5, shod with four Wintersport M2s, even got stuck trying to get out of my driveway, which is on an incline, on the ice and I had to have a tow truck come and pull it out. I guess I was really "lazy" because I couldn't push or pull it out myself. My 550i xDrive shod with four LM-25 Blizzaks never gets stuck on my driveway or anywhere else for that matter.

BTW, I don't use the cruise control in short trips around Pittsburgh even on the highway. All BMWs, even the new M5, come with non active cruise control as standard equipment. I suppose you can make a case that all cruise control should be optional so that you don't have to pay for it in your cars.

I think it is patently absurd to catagorize those who purchase cars with cruise control as "lazy". All BMW M cars come standard with cruise control. The addition of active cruise control just makes it easier and more convenient.

Maybe those who drive RWD cars in Canada or Sweden have room for two vehicles in their garage, a RWD for normal driving and AWD for driving in the snow. The owner of my BMW dealer tells me no one wants to buy RWD cars in Pittsburgh any longer. He has a great deal of trouble selling Jaguars because they are not available with AWD.

So, just because I want an M5 with AWD and ACC does not make me, or anyone else, "lazy" or "plebian" and I think you should stop casting personal aspersions on those of us who like AWD and ACC.

BTW, you have still not issued a formal denial about whether or not you routinely tailgate. Until you issue such a denial I think it is reasonable to assume that your lack of denial is evidence that you do, in fact, tailgate. And if your desire to tailgate is the reason you don't want to use ACC. You have denied passing on the right as one reason for your not using ACC, however.

And yes, the proper car for me would be the Panamera AWD turbo if it has both ACC and AWD, but at about $180k with tax it's not a good value. An AWD M5 at about $110k would be well worth the money. In any case, I don't like Porsches.
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Okay guys, cool down.
This thread is about the M5.
Not about winterdriving in +100k cars.

Personnally I would not like to drive my 150.000 Panamera Porsche for daily use in very bad winter circumstances with so much snow and ice...
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i for one think an M car should not have all wheel drive, not have ACC, not have any "driver aids" that take the driving experience out of the drivers hand. i don't even think cruise control should be an option. it kind of defeats the purpose.

but some will say that the FI engine and DCT (as opposed to high reving MT) are missing the point too.
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i for one think an M car should not have all wheel drive, not have ACC, not have any "driver aids" that take the driving experience out of the drivers hand. i don't even think cruise control should be an option. it kind of defeats the purpose.

but some will say that the FI engine and DCT (as opposed to high reving MT) are missing the point too.
BMW now makes a 650i xDrive convertible. Who would have ever imagined a 6 Series convertible with AWD.? It's only a matter of time before we have AWD M cars. The traditionalists better start praying now that AWD will be optional.
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So it is a good policy to enjoy life while it lasts and drive RWD as long as that is still possible.
The cheap pulling cars are taking over the world as it is.
Electrical boosted FWD piston engine cars being the most probable set up for the near future.
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Okay guys, cool down.
This thread is about the M5.
Not about winterdriving in +100k cars.

Personnally I would not like to drive my 150.000 Panamera Porsche for daily use in very bad winter circumstances with so much snow and ice...
I'm with you on that. Winter driving has too many hazards out of your control for a car like the M5 or a Panny Turbo however it is richschneid's dream not ours. Regarding ACC I would not order it on any car since I never missed it over here. However I think the option has it's place in the M5. For multi hour fast trips on Autobahn it could be very useful. When I lived in Sweden I often travelled to the alps in winter and the riviera in summer. An M5 with ACC would have been great for the driving through the length of Germany. After a couple of hours or so of having fun it would be nice to have the option to set the ACC and let it handle speed at sections of traffic and the occassional driver entering the left lane at low speed. We often drove for 30h straight changing drivers. An M5 or Panny with ACC would truly have made excellent choices for these trips.

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i for one think an M car should not have all wheel drive, not have ACC, not have any "driver aids" that take the driving experience out of the drivers hand. i don't even think cruise control should be an option. it kind of defeats the purpose.

but some will say that the FI engine and DCT (as opposed to high reving MT) are missing the point too.
Don't forget: no abs (learn to break yourself), only manual, no airbags, and no power steering. If you have any of those its a fail. I wonder how much cheaper that would be
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