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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:22 AM
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Air Conditioning Performance?

My 2012 X3 35i seems to have a weak AC, it was only 85 (though sunny) here yesterday and unless we were on the highway, the AC could barely keep up.

Is this common with other folks?

What is the highest temp you guys see on the temp gauge? I was seeing around 240ish...

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Old 05-21-2012, 08:22 AM
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It may not be your A/C. Check the position of the thumbwheel between the vents in the center of the dashboard. It will vary the temperature of the air coming out of the dashboard vents. No matter what temperature you have set, turn it more towards red and the air becomes warmer, turn it it more towards blue and the air becomes cooler. IIRC, the temperature setting is for overall cabin air. The thumbwheel setting adjust the temperature of the air blowing on your face. There's a similar thumbwheel on the back of the center console for rear seat passengers.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:35 AM
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Good catch, but I had already found that when I was searching. They were both on full cold and the car was in MAX AC. I was sitting in the parking lot waiting for my wife to come out on 2 occasions and both times the car had barely any cold air coming out until we started moving. And every time we stopped at a light for any amount of time it started to get warmer again.

Does your X3 have sufficient AC performance? This is my first BMW, and I find it hard to believe this is how they all are, but I want to check out the consensus before I take it to the dealer. My ML320 will put ice on the windows if you want it to in comparison!

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It may not be your A/C. Check the position of the thumbwheel between the vents in the center of the dashboard. It will vary the temperature of the air coming out of the dashboard vents. No matter what temperature you have set, turn it more towards red and the air becomes warmer, turn it it more towards blue and the air becomes cooler. IIRC, the temperature setting is for overall cabin air. The thumbwheel setting adjust the temperature of the air blowing on your face. There's a similar thumbwheel on the back of the center console for rear seat passengers.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:38 AM
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I have to agree about the AC.

If i set the system to automatic mode the AC barely keeps up. I find if I set AC to max the car cools quickly.

I don't seem to notice the temperature issue once the car has cooled down.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:45 AM
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Were you in Eco Pro driving mode? Did you have the AC intensity turned all the way up?
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:02 AM
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No Eco Pro mode on 2012 and Max AC was engaged. So yes all they way up.

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Were you in Eco Pro driving mode? Did you have the AC intensity turned all the way up?
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:27 AM
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I'd take it to the dealer at this point. I have had fantastic A/C performance in all of my BMW's (current and prior).
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:38 PM
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A/c

Works well in my 2011 3.5.

Note that the temp gauge is oil temperature, not coolant temperature.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:52 PM
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My 2003 325xi had no problem keeping up with the heat in North Carolina during the summer and still works fine today (but I don't use it nearly as much here in Seattle).

Could be there's a leak in the system and you're running at reduced capacity. Regardless, it's time to take it in for further investigation. Definitely not normal.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:12 PM
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Yep, AC is very cold for me. I typically have it set on Auto, intensity isn't very high, and the temp set on 73 or so... Feels VERY cold to me, plenty cold enough that I find myself turning the temp up a couple degrees now and then...

Sounds like you've got an issue, I'd take it in...
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Old 05-21-2012, 07:54 PM
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Thanks everyone for chiming in. Looks like another trip to the dealer! Good thing I love this car! I had low coolant a week or so ago and I thought perhaps this was related, maybe they were low on freon (or whatever they use) too! Now if only I could check to dipstick for oil level! Kidding Kidding!

Also, thanks for letting me know that's engine oil temp! That explains why it was running closer to 250 than I thought it should be!!! Learn something new every day!
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:13 PM
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"performs as designed" *sigh*

I guess I'll be getting some good solar rejection tint!
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:01 AM
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hi, you probably already know this. In "auto" the air comes out in three areas. If you push the button that indicates air coming from the centre vents just above the radio and then adjust the fan speed, you will notice a dramatic difference in cooling.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:23 AM
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The A/C on my 2013 X3 35 is VERY cold and much colder than my 335ix. I just set it on auto and forget it. I would push the dealer
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:09 PM
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The A/C on my 2013 X3 35 is VERY cold and much colder than my 335ix. I just set it on auto and forget it. I would push the dealer
I had a thermometer in the vents of another 2012 loaner they had and it put out the same temperature air at idle. Really idle (not moving) is the only problem.

I think I'm just going to get some 3M Crystalline / Ceramic tint all around and see if that helps.

It's really just on the margins and if I could program the computer of the car, I'd just run the engine cooling fans faster when max AC is on and the car is standing still. I wonder who programs these things sometimes!

My ML320 blows 38* air on an 85 degree day and the X3 blows 48* air both standing still. It drops quite a bit when moving in the X3, is about the same in the ML320.
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Old 06-03-2012, 03:11 PM
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hi, you probably already know this. In "auto" the air comes out in three areas. If you push the button that indicates air coming from the centre vents just above the radio and then adjust the fan speed, you will notice a dramatic difference in cooling.
I had it in MAX setting and it still wasn't cooling. I don't think that was the issue. Thanks though.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:53 PM
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X3 A/C issue

I agree that it's time to take it in, which it appears you have, as you spoke of a "loaner."

It's probably not this, but selecting recirculating air, the far right button near the right front (passenger) side of the dial, may perhaps help, though others far more experienced than I may disagree...I'm always eager to learn.

Please continue to keep us posted!

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Old 06-19-2012, 05:49 AM
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commercial air conditioning sydney

Air conditioning performance are depend its compressor.because cooling are depend its compressor.leaking issue are affect the air conditioner.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:00 PM
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Looks like I'm not the only one with this problem: http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...le-digits.html Inside Line is also citing sub-par performance. It's just so strange coming from a 50K+ car. Like I said my ML320 CDI will frost the windows if you let it run max cold long enough. So I don't buy the "It's a German" argument. Being my first BMW, maybe it IS a BMW thing.

I still haven't been able to find a tint installer in my area to install 3M Crystaline Tint and Ceramic tint to help with the IR heat from the windows so hopefully once someone wants to take my money, that will help! What recession!
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:43 PM
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Ok, so hears the deal. BMW made a change in the x3 to make the fan not part of the auto feature. You have to push the fan speed up to get it cool. Don't know why they changed it when it worked so well (and does on every other car). There are a few times when I like a low "intensity" (what the fan now controls), but I would prefer they change it back.
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:40 PM
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I'm very satisfied with the air conditioner in my car. I never run at max for more than a few minutes and then set it to the lowest speed. My car cooled quickly today even though it was 100 degrees.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:42 AM
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Ok, so hears the deal. BMW made a change in the x3 to make the fan not part of the auto feature. You have to push the fan speed up to get it cool. Don't know why they changed it when it worked so well (and does on every other car). There are a few times when I like a low "intensity" (what the fan now controls), but I would prefer they change it back.
It does control fan speed. When you're in auto mode you have to make sure that the maximum fan speed isn't set too low. The five bars that are displayed for fan speed in auto mode act as a cap, so if you're on the 1st or 2nd bar the fan speed won't go above a relatively low setting. I keep mine on the 4th bar, and it very clearly starts at a high fan speed when the interior is hot and reduces the fan speed as the car cools down.

You can find a discussion here: http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684657
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:57 AM
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it does control fan speed. When you're in auto mode you have to make sure that the maximum fan speed isn't set too low. The five bars that are displayed for fan speed in auto mode act as a cap, so if you're on the 1st or 2nd bar the fan speed won't go above a relatively low setting. I keep mine on the 4th bar, and it very clearly starts at a high fan speed when the interior is hot and reduces the fan speed as the car cools down.

You can find a discussion here: http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684657
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:17 PM
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AC is not a strong compared to my prior Mercedes, but they are more than acceptable. Might be a little slow cooling, but with the strong engine no loss of power when driving.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:42 PM
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Considering the AC is electrical the engine power should have very little to do with its ability to cool, unless you have a faulty alternator. I am surmising here though.
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