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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:04 PM
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Thoughts on M Sport steering wheel / Wife / Small Hands

Hello everyone...I am about to order an X3 35i with the M Sport package. The car will be split between myself and my wife as a daily driver, and is a compromise between my love for a sports car with her love for an SUV.

The only thing holding us back on the M Sport package is the steering wheel, which is quite thick on the M Sport, and much thicker than the sport steering wheel I have on my 335i.

Does anyone on here have any feedback on whether this will be a problem? There are no M Sports anywhere around to test drive...only one on display that is also far away.

I noticed that some people complain of the positioning of the shift paddles if not holding the wheel at 10 and 2 (when relaxing for example), but have not really heard any feedback on whether the wheel is hard to grip for someone with small hands.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:29 PM
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How small are her hands?

I have very long fingers, as does my wife, but I can't imagine any problem with having small hands. She doesn't technically need to reach the paddles..

I would make the drive and go check it out if it's that much of a concern.. how far away would you have to go?
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:56 PM
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My wife has small hands is 5'2" and loves the m-sport steering wheel!
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:13 PM
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My X3 has the M-Sport package with the big fat steering wheel. I can't explain why, because it has no practical advantage, but I love it. I had a X3 loaner last week that had the standard wheel and it just was clearly not as satisfying to grip. The relatively skinny steering wheel, in comparison, felt sub-standard. I do not understand why the thicker feeling wheel feels so satisfying to grip but it certainly does. If I was ordering a new X3, somehow I would find a way to make sure it came with the M-sport package. The M-Sport package also includes, IMO, the much more comfortable and better supporting sport seats. I also think the black trim is much more elegant appearing than chrome, especially in certain colors. M 2011 X3 felt tighter than the 2013 non M-sport loaner and I think the included sport suspension was the reason.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:20 PM
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Thoughts on M Sport steering wheel / Wife / Small Hands

I'm upgrading my SAP wheel to the M sport wheel because I have to have the thicker grip.
Regarding the paddles they work the same on both wheels, I've compared. The paddles are a bit of a gimmick as I rarely use them, I prefer the step tronic shifter my self.
I say to for it and get the M sport wheel. If you are in a cold climate get the heated version
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:32 PM
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My X3 has the M-Sport package with the big fat steering wheel. I can't explain why, because it has no practical advantage, but I love it. I had a X3 loaner last week that had the standard wheel and it just was clearly not as satisfying to grip. The relatively skinny steering wheel, in comparison, felt sub-standard. I do not understand why the thicker steeling wheel feels so satisfying to grip but it certainly does. If I was ordering a new X3, somehow I would find a way to make sure it came with the M-sport package. The M-Sport package also includes, IMO, the much more comfortable and better supporting sport seats. I also think the black trim is much more elegant appearing than chrome, especially in certain colors. M 2011 X3 felt tighter than the 2013 non M-sport loaner and I think the included sport suspension was the reason.
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:41 PM
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Thanks everyone for your feedback. I think I may need to ask my wife to travel (about an hour each way) to just test out the thicker wheel and make sure it is something she will like on a daily basis.

I guess no wives on here complain about this, so that's a good sign!
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:44 AM
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Thanks everyone for your feedback. I think I may need to ask my wife to travel (about an hour each way) to just test out the thicker wheel and make sure it is something she will like on a daily basis.

I guess no wives on here complain about this, so that's a good sign!
My wife is 4' 11" and has petite hands. She LOVES the thicker M Sport wheel, and as Finnsane suggests, get the heated version and make her happy.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:32 AM
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I love it. My wife has commented on it, but I think she likes it too - it's just different from the e90 that she drives more often. It does take some getting used to.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:16 AM
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mrcnycX3, you should at least take a look at the MSport before you buy one, since it is only an hour away. When I was deciding rather to get the MSport or not, I found the sport steering wheel on all the 35i to be pretty thick already, the MSport steering wheel was a tiny bit thinker but pretty close. The thumb grips on the MSport steering wheel is much bigger, not sure if thats a good thing or not. The MSport steering wheel is also wrap with nappa leather instead of dakota and the MSport have the paddle shifter. The difference between the sport and the MSport steering wheel is not as much as you think.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:32 AM
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... I found the sport steering wheel on all the 35i to be pretty thick already, the MSport steering wheel was a tiny bit thinker but pretty close. ... The difference between the sport and the MSport steering wheel is not as much as you think.
The difference between the M-Sport wheel on my 2011 X3 and the Non-M-Sport 2013 X3 loaner I had last week was huge - no comparison.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:51 AM
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The difference between the M-Sport wheel on my 2011 X3 and the Non-M-Sport 2013 X3 loaner I had last week was huge - no comparison.
Was the loaner a X3 35i with the sport steering wheel? I doubt it. The difference between the MSport and the regular X3 28i steering is huge, but between the sport steering wheel and the Msport, not so much.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:05 AM
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Was the loaner a X3 35i with the sport steering wheel? I doubt it. The difference between the MSport and the regular X3 28i steering is huge, but between the sport steering wheel and the Msport, not so much.
The loaner was a 28.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:20 AM
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Thoughts on M Sport steering wheel / Wife / Small Hands

We bought my wife an M Sport X1 two weeks ago. Her hands are probably on the smaller side of average or the larger side of small.
I assume the M steering wheels are the same? It is quite thick.
I just asked her what she thought about it.
She expressed nothing but delight over the wheel. It's nearly twice as thick as her previous 1st gen Ford Escape wheel.
She says she likes it because it's "easier to find in an emergency."
She continued, "Sometimes, I'm driving with one hand. But then something dangerous happens and I need to grip the wheel with both hands. Since its really thick and smaller diameter than the Escape, it's very easy to find the wheel without looking at it. My hand goes right to it. It's also not as slick as the Escape wheel, so it doesn't slide out from under the hand so easy. It's almost sticky!"


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Old 10-23-2013, 08:22 AM
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I, on the other hand, have huge, thick, manly hands. I LOVE the thick wheel. It's the first car I've ever owned where my fingers don't touch my pals when I wrap my hands around it.


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There are three different steering wheels from what I recall... 28i, 35i, msport.
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I thought other than the paddles and "m" trim the wheel thickness on the 35i and m where the same?


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Old 10-23-2013, 04:49 PM
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My wife has small hands is 5'2" and loves the m-sport steering wheel!
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:45 PM
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maybe it was the premium package that added the thicker than base steering wheel.

I can guaranty a 28i I drove had a wheel the same thickness as my old 71 chevy nova. The X3 was really unsatisfying to drive with that skinny wheel.

edit, here is the MY13 Product Guide showing the model variations.

MSport was the thickest of the 3 steering wheels.


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Old 10-23-2013, 06:52 PM
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I know in 2011 there was the skinny 28i wheel, the regular 35i wheel, the Sport Activity package wheel that came with paddle shifters and the M-sport wheel with paddle shifters. The Sport Activity wheel and the M-sport wheel are very close to each other in size. The trim was a differentiating factor on them back in 2011.
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Old 10-24-2013, 09:04 AM
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Just thought I'd post a quick update since I started this thread. My wife was able to find an X3 with the M Sport package to sit in (but not drive), and had no complaints about the steering wheel thickness, even though she has small hands. We are probably going to make the trip to a dealership for her to test drive it, just to be sure.

I also wonder if either of us will have any complaints about the ride (because of the 19's), so it may be good to test drive the M Sport for that reason as well.

Anyone regret M Sport or the 19's?

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Nope, Love the 19's. Just switched out my Goodyear LS2 runflats for Continental Extreme DWS tires and I have the say the ride is even more comfortable. The 19" LS2's were definitely firmer and transferred bumps directly to the vehicle. The Continentals absorb the bumps but still provide a great ride and handling.
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Get the m sport. I don't think anyone ever regrets getting it.


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Just thought I'd post a quick update since I started this thread. My wife was able to find an X3 with the M Sport package to sit in (but not drive), and had no complaints about the steering wheel thickness, even though she has small hands. We are probably going to make the trip to a dealership for her to test drive it, just to be sure.

I also wonder if either of us will have any complaints about the ride (because of the 19's), so it may be good to test drive the M Sport for that reason as well.

Anyone regret M Sport or the 19's?
19 " wheels look right on this car- 18" wheels are a bit small IMHO.

We had a winter with the 19" wheels and Goodyear run flats and they performed well in snow. I don't think the tires are noisy.

My wife who's 5'5" has small ands and loves the M Sport steering wheel. She has never and will probably never use the paddle shifters- nor will most women. I use them and enjoy them.
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