F10 TPMS PSI/Temp Data - Working or Not

Originally Posted by Chuck W.

I am guessing this is a software issue. I had my car coded and had the TPMS PSI/Temp Data working. Then, I took the car in in July and had the Global update done. The update wiped out all of the prior coding. When I had it recoded the TPMS data came up with the dreaded ---. Ugh. It appears that it depends on what version of software you have whether or not you can activate this feature.

Chuck, I'm not sure what happened in your case. I have not heard of this happening to anyone else, and I have coded this on many cars with the 46.6 update up though 47.4, and I have yet you see an ISTA/P version that it does not work on.

I would go back and double check the coding in my Post # 72.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

You have a very impressive list of options, including NVE.

Thanks!
Whats NVE btw; I tried finding it in that list, but failed :-(

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

but for some reason BMW blessed Canadians with FTMS instead of TPMS. .

Yeah, the guy at the dealer when I purchased the car said that they had too many issues with people not understanding when the pressure dropped etc what to do; they they stopped importing the cars with TPMS and put in the FTMS to avoid service calls at the dealership and 'false postives'...

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

The part you bought, that is just for the wheel assembly / valve stem? I suppose you cold try and retrofit the receiver piece, and then add 2VB to your VO and code you car and see if it works.

Yes, I got the TMPS sensor, and valve stem only... I made an assumption based on early reading here that would do the trick - didnt do my research too well and as result wasted some cash, unless I could get the other parts etc; I got a helpfull guy at the dealer who said he would try and reverese enginer the parts list for me, to see if we can order those parts - If I can get the parts, I'll let you know - as I will likly need way more help coding the VO as you suggested -

if I can get the parts, I'll post the numbers here... in case there is other people who want to try this....

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Hell. It looks like they made up for it though by giving you not one, but two KOMBI's.

Be sure to code both of them.

I'm sure I know the answer to this, but your kidding right? (i'm sure you are but hell!, I can barley keep the coding straight for one now I have to do two!

Originally Posted by bmguy

Thanks!
Whats NVE btw; I tried finding it in that list, but failed :-(



Yeah, the guy at the dealer when I purchased the car said that they had too many issues with people not understanding when the pressure dropped etc what to do; they they stopped importing the cars with TPMS and put in the FTMS to avoid service calls at the dealership and 'false postives'...



Yes, I got the TMPS sensor, and valve stem only... I made an assumption based on early reading here that would do the trick - didnt do my research too well and as result wasted some cash, unless I could get the other parts etc; I got a helpfull guy at the dealer who said he would try and reverese enginer the partyslist for me, too if we can order those parts - If I can get the parts, I'll let you know - as I will likly need way more help coding the VO as you suggested -

if I can get the parts, I'll post the numbers here... in case there is other people who want to try this....

NVE = Night Vision Equipment = 6UK

I'd love to see you try and finish this retrofit. There are a lot of people that would love a DIY on replacing FTMS with TPMS. The coding will be easy, so I would not worry at all about that part. You need to figure out where the receiver modules go in the Wheel Well, and make sure your current RDC Module can support them.

Originally Posted by bmguy

I'm sure I know the answer to this, but your kidding right? (i'm sure you are but hell!, I can barley keep the coding straight for one now I have to do two!

I am kidding. I am sure you have only one Instrument Cluster in your car, but it was listed twice. Probably a copy and paste error.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

NVE = Night Vision Equipment = 6UK

I'd love to see you try and finish this retrofit. There are a lot of people that would love a DIY on replacing FTMS with TPMS. The coding will be easy, so I would not woory at all about that part. You need to figure out where there receiver modules go in the Wheel Well, and make sure your current RDC Module can support them.

Ahh, NVE! Its interesting for sure - not sure I would spend the money on that again (but thats a different topic I think I commented on before here

As for the project; I'm VERY interested in moving it along - I have a few bucks to toy with this, as I'm knee deep in it now anyways (and I hate to give up!)

If you have some experts in mind that can help point me to get some answers etc I will chase that down and see what can be done. The dealer here in town has been very helpfull, but I suspect this will be past there edge of understanding as there is pretty much no canadian cars with TPMS!

I suspect a friendly USA dealer (or simular) who has experance replaceing and order these parts could be very helpfull - so if someone has contacts we can use to come up with idea's I'd be willing to try them out.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

I am kidding. I am sure you have only one Instrument Cluster in your car, but it was listed twice. Probably a copy and paste error.

ohh;
I actualy do have two... Is that not normal to have two?


there is one in the back seat, and it comes with a wheel and a pedal also - I've never seen it - but some people give me instructions like there is one back there!

Originally Posted by bmguy

Ahh, NVE! Its interesting for sure - not sure I would spend the money on that again (but thats a different topic I think I commented on before here

As for the project; I'm VERY interested in moving it along - I have a few bucks to toy with this, as I'm knee deep in it now anyways (and I hate to give up!)

If you have some experts in mind that can help point me to get some answers etc I will chase that down and see what can be done. The dealer here in town has been very helpfull, but I suspect this will be past there edge of understanding as there is pretty much no canadian cars with TPMS!

I suspect a friendly USA dealer (or simular) who has experance replaceing and order these parts could be very helpfull - so if someone has contacts we can use to come up with idea's I'd be willing to try them out.

Your dealer still should be able to look in their system, and see what parts you would need.

I think the other main missing piece you need is the CONTROL UNIT RDC, but the good news is that the new TPMS requires only one control unit for all 4 wheel modules. Prior to 2010, it required one control unit per wheel module.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...id=52156&hg=36

Well; here is the latest on the adding of TPMS parts to the the cars that dont have enough parts to make this work;

"Now to your question about converting your tire pressure system to the TPMS-system:

I have compared your car to one that would have the system, called BMW for your question and talked to my college.

Result of the researches: The answer to the question is: NO

There are more details in the set up for the 550xi besides a module + the different ABS-connection. According to BMW the TPMS-system for all the tires is not retrofit able."

Sounds like a who collection of parts etc - seems ike getting an answer on exactly what those parts are not not likly. The fact it requires new ABS sensors etc also scares me, as that could cause all sorts of concerns downt he road... I'm going to not proceed with this work based on the number of systems it touchs, the complexity and safty concerns.

Originally Posted by bmguy

Well; here is the latest on the adding of TPMS parts to the the cars that dont have enough parts to make this work;

"Now to your question about converting your tire pressure system to the TPMS-system:

I have compared your car to one that would have the system, called BMW for your question and talked to my college.

Result of the researches: The answer to the question is: NO

There are more details in the set up for the 550xi besides a module + the different ABS-connection. According to BMW the TPMS-system for all the tires is not retrofit able."

Sounds like a who collection of parts etc - seems ike getting an answer on exactly what those parts are not not likly. The fact it requires new ABS sensors etc also scares me, as that could cause all sorts of concerns downt he road... I'm going to not proceed with this work based on the number of systems it touchs, the complexity and safty concerns.

I would not expect anything less from BMW. Ask them about retrofitting anything, and if they do not officially offer it as a retrofit, the answer will be always be no.

It may not be practical, I'm not disputing that, but BMW stating it isn't retrofittable does not mean much. They will also tell you that you can't retrofit a CIC for a CCC, yet it has been done a thousand times.

I guess the big issue for me... I can't find a list of parts to figure out the scope of the project.... If I had that... It may be easy to decide...

I'm not one for playing with safety systems either... So depending on what that parts list looks like I may not have the stomach for it... A simple sensor swap is not a big deal, but I wold need to find someone who can actually get a list of parts together... That seems to be very hard...

2013 BMW M5
Production Date: 2012-07-19
Status: Working/Not Working: NOT WORKING
OEM Wheels & Tires

Originally Posted by ImpetuousRacer

2013 BMW M5
Production Date: 2012-07-19
Status: Working/Not Working: NOT WORKING
OEM Wheels & Tires

Very odd. Works perfectly fine on my M5.

Working for me 2013 535i xDrive 07-12-2012 build date.

Originally Posted by ImpetuousRacer

2013 BMW M5
Production Date: 2012-07-19
Status: Working/Not Working: NOT WORKING
OEM Wheels & Tires

Originally Posted by wdimagineer

Very odd. Works perfectly fine on my M5.

No Rhyme or Reason, same as it has always been since we started this.

I stand corrected guys, after a short drive it showed up.

Originally Posted by ImpetuousRacer

I stand corrected guys, after a short drive it showed up.

I will code my 2013 M5 soon. Will I need new pSDZ files or can I use the ones from march?

Originally Posted by ImpetuousRacer

I stand corrected guys, after a short drive it showed up.

Glad to hear that, as I have not heard of any other TPMS issues on any other new builds.

Originally Posted by Stealth.Pilot

I will code my 2013 M5 soon. Will I need new pSDZ files or can I use the ones from march?

I think March, 46.x, will likely be too old. You probably need at least July, 47.x.

I would grab 47.5, and add the 48.1 CAFD's myself.

This feature is working on my 2013 M5.

I got to say, I am wondering how accurate it is.

My TPMS sensors seem fairly accurate, +/- 0.5 psi compared to the gauge i have.

2011 BMW 535xi
Production Date: 2011-08-10
Status: Working/Not Working: NOT WORKING
OEM Wheels & Tires (Style 331, Goodyear), but WORKING with winter setup (Style 330, Dunlop) with new TPM purchased from Tisher BMW

Ok in a WTF moment my TMPS is now showing data. I bumped a curb pulling out of the bank and switched to the display just to check and the pressure and temp data is now there.

No idea why I have not messed with coding in months and my car has not been in the shop.

We will see if it stays...

FWIW
DLM

PS I did scuff my rim dammit. Not too bad but I know it is there.

Originally Posted by dmunz

Ok in a WTF moment my TMPS is now showing data. I bumped a curb pulling out of the bank and switched to the display just to check and the pressure and temp data is now there.

No idea why I have not messed with coding in months and my car has not been in the shop.

We will see if it stays...

FWIW
DLM

PS I did scuff my rim dammit. Not too bad but I know it is there.

Weird. I installed a new set of wheels/tires/TPMS a month ago or so. Initially the pressures didn't show after resetting the TPMS system, even though each tire on the display went "green". A couple of miles later, the pressures started showing and continue to show.

I would be willing to bump a curb to get mine to work... If it was certain....
Mine have been green no errors or data for months now....

Tk