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Old 06-11-2012, 10:40 AM
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525i starts only through starter

Production date is 08/94 I have this really wierd problem. Doors unlock wth BMW key, stick it in the igniton everything goes in check and lights up but try to crank it over nothing happens. Has a new starter and battery, go under the hood and jump it through the starter fires right up and runs like a champ can drive it around no problems. Shut it off try to start it nothing. What the hell is with that. Some good advice would be nice, talked to bmw dealer with the vin I have BMW keyless entry under rear seat but no EWS. I could careless about EWS and keyless entry if thats the problem How do you disconnect all that nonsense. I'll put in push start for the starter. Thanks
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:04 AM
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If it has an auto transmission, check the neutral safety switch.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:04 PM
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Its a 5spd manual. Did try to jump wire the ignition and all i heard was a click sound like a relay. But then jumped the starter, fired right up and stayed running
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:54 PM
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Its a 5spd manual. Did try to jump wire the ignition and all i heard was a click sound like a relay. But then jumped the starter, fired right up and stayed running
Starter relay ?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:38 PM
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Its a 5spd manual. Did try to jump wire the ignition and all i heard was a click sound like a relay. But then jumped the starter, fired right up and stayed running
Does the manual have a clutch pedal safety switch ?

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Old 06-11-2012, 08:43 PM
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Ill check that out because usally it will start with the clutch pressed in or relesed. Not sure were that switch is located but im not ilterate in searching either. Help is greatly appreciated since we got everything working again ready to go and this problem comes up. Murphys Law!
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:09 PM
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I fiddled around with the clutch pedal saftey switch and shifter didnt do anything. Is that a good thing or bad? *switch is above clutch pedal has a white case wth red looking button.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:06 AM
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usally it will start with the clutch pressed in or relesed. this statement of yours makes me believe that the previous owner must have by-passed this safety switch . I had an identical problem , key would go in and turn all the way to ignition dash lights are on but it woul not start the starter , turned out the ignition cylinder was about broken inside the column and would not turn all the way through . i would take the top and the bottom cover of the steering wheel column and accsess the ignition switrch on the left hand side of that column , it is held by 2 very small screws ( flat head ) and pull it out of the cylinder and then you can stick a flathead screw driver and see if it starts the starter !
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:12 AM
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Production date is 08/94 I have this really wierd problem. Doors unlock wth BMW key, stick it in the igniton everything goes in check and lights up but try to crank it over nothing happens. Has a new starter and battery, go under the hood and jump it through the starter fires right up and runs like a champ can drive it around no problems. Shut it off try to start it nothing. What the hell is with that. Some good advice would be nice, talked to bmw dealer with the vin I have BMW keyless entry under rear seat but no EWS. I could careless about EWS and keyless entry if thats the problem How do you disconnect all that nonsense. I'll put in push start for the starter. Thanks
ewsII did not start till 1/95 production date I believe !
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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If it was ews related I wouldn't be able to start it at the starter and drive it around. EWS2 was pro date of actual 95. Ill check out the ignition switch. BUT if you jump run to start vice vers it dont crank, all you hear is a click, like a relay. It might be a starter relay issue or wire, Has to be somewhere from A to B. Electrical issues are not my favorite thing, had to replace the master wire harness becuase previous idiots didnt put a relay for the aftermarket fan.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:21 PM
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I whole hartedly agree that it is not EWS. If the EWS were activated, the car would not run.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I suspect the starter relay. They are not very expensive as I recall.

Hope that works for you. Let us know how it turns out.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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I had to use the ignition to hunt down the starter relay, only to find it deep in the footwell. along with a pink one. Eithr way they both smell smoked, gonna replace em I hope to god that solves the problem il post a pic of the car.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:59 PM
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Its one of three problems, either the ignition barrel switch itself is faulty, the relay is faulty, or the wiring somewhere along the line is faulty. When you jump the starter, are you just applying 12V to the solinoid or are you grounding it too? if you are grounding it, it may be the earth strap between the engine and the chassis, it is on the left hand side of the car if its an M50 motor, and on the right if it is an M20.

on the BMW scale of things, not too much of a major. Your really lucky its not the EWS, thats a real headache
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:45 AM
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I really appreciate the help guys. Ill post up what happens
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:50 PM
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Sorry guys been a week forgot to post. It was the Starter Immobilizer deep down in the drivers footwell, what a bear. Shes up and running. Thanks
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