F10 Retrofitting Lane Departure Warning

Originally Posted by tissot

Instalation is very simple, you don't have screw anything, just remove wood panel (with headlights knob), then push the panel button from behind. It takes 2 minutes.

All Right, thx. then i will go tomorrow to my dealer to order this panel, cost 58 € in germany.

can you explain at which position you take out the wood panel with the headlight knob. i dont want to scratch my wood, this would be ugly, hehe.

sibob

Originally Posted by sibob

can you explain at which position you take out the wood panel with the headlight knob.
sibob

just pull left side of the wood panel, it's simple.

58E? it's cheaper than in Poland, it's unfair

@tissot: Thanks for the information.

All I now need is confirmation that the steering wheel vibration motor can be retrofitted.

Anyone know, what the instructions are to fit steering wheel motor. Part number #32336787452
It costs about £65 and the additional panel. I'm all ready to order, just want confirmation that the steering vibration motor can be retrofitted.

Originally Posted by gspannu

@tissot: Thanks for the information.

All I now need is confirmation that the steering wheel vibration motor can be retrofitted.

Anyone know, what the instructions are to fit steering wheel motor. Part number #32336787452
It costs about £65 and the additional panel. I'm all ready to order, just want confirmation that the steering vibration motor can be retrofitted.

any news on this?

Originally Posted by cuorealfa1

any news on this?

It looks quite simple and that the small Vibration Actuator goes in the steering wheel, and plugs into the existing Electronic Steering Wheel Module 2-Pin Plug.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

It looks quite simple and that the small Vibration Actuator goes in the steering wheel, and plugs into the existing Electronic Steering Wheel Module 2-Pin Plug.

Thx Shawn...
But this is for the F10. Could you please have a look on ISTA for the F07 05/2010? I saw in the ETK that there are 2 different Sport Steering Wheels. One with the actuator and one w/o.
Thank you very much.

Originally Posted by cuorealfa1

Thx Shawn...
But this is for the F10. Could you please have a look on ISTA for the F07 05/2010? I saw in the ETK that there are 2 different Sport Steering Wheels. One with the actuator and one w/o.
Thank you very much.

All I could see was a sport steering wheel and and regular one, but the actuator information does not state it requires a specific model wheel as far as I could find. I think you could just remove the wheel cover, and see if there is an empty pocket that the actuator fits into at the bottom of the wheel, and also that the control module to the bottom right has the unused 2-Pin connector on it.

In my opinion, steering wheel module also is different:
61 31 9 218 380 - heating
or
61 31 9 218 381 - vibration
or
61 31 9 218 379 - heating+vibration

there are 3 different steering wheels:

32 33 6 790 894 - with heating, LCW and/or LDW
32 33 6 790 893 - w/o heating, but with LCW and/or LDW
32 33 6 790 891 - just wheel w/o LDW or LCW (as mine)

the question is now what is really different between the wheel 893 and 891.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

I think you could just remove the wheel cover, and see if there is an empty pocket that the actuator fits into at the bottom of the wheel, and also that the control module to the bottom right has the unused 2-Pin connector on it.

all ok.. but i think the different is that the wheels 893 and 894 have different wirings. Because i can't find the wirings in the ETK by itself. They are showing up in the picture under "61_2389 Lenkradelektronik" but they are not listed.

To remove the wheel cover, is it dangerous? Do i have to remove the battery from the car?

First time it takes about 10-15 minutes when you "hit" write place behind airbag. You have to be patient and calm.
You haven't diconnect battery. It isn't dangarous. But don't unplug airbag's wires if you don't disconnect battery. Only remove cover with silver trim, just pull carefully. Then you will see everything.

and to place it back just to put in again?

Yes, when you "unlock" airbag, all other is simple.
On the end, you have to push airbag on write place, will be "beeeep!!!" (horn), don't be afraid

i've found the 2 steering wheels on the net.

and there is really a wiring issue to retrofit it just with the actuator and the module.
You have to change the wheel. Because there is no wiring itself to order.

see attached pictures

the left is without LDW LCW and the right is with. there you can see an additional wire which goes to the module place and a one end which ends in the right hole which is empty on the other wheel

Originally Posted by sibob

IT WORKS !!!!!

i have retrofit via coding the lane departure warning with these codes from akiss without an error...

i have already the lane change warning system with the vibration steering wheel and the SLI from factory... in additionel these codes the lane departure warning works perfectly. only the button to deactivate the system is not there...

Codes to change:

KOMBI:
3003, TLC_VERBAUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_TIMEOUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_ALIVE, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_APPL, aktiv

KAFAS:
3000, TLC_START_VERSION, default_on
3000, TLC_ON_OFF, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_327, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_345, aktiv
3006, ACTUATOR_ON_OFF, aktiv

HU_CIC:
3001, LANE_DEPARTURE_WARNING, aktiv

Has anyone tried this on the F30? On my F30, I can see the same settings for KOMBI and HU, but there is no KAFAS module. Nor did I see anything similar to the two TLC_... in any of the modules.

Could it be that KAFAS comes only with SLI or lane assist, and not with blind spot?

Coded FDLs in the following order:

KAFAS:
SEND_MSG_345 message_on_F20_F30_F25
SEND_MSG_327 message_on_F20_F30_F25
TLC_ON_OFF TLC_on_F20_F30_F25
ACTUATOR_ON_OFF vib_warn_on_F20_F30_F25 (tried on and off this parameter)
SEND_CC_FCW_VISIBILITY FCW_on_F025
SEND_DISP_LDM_2 DISP_LDM2_on_F025
SEND_STATUS_IBRAKE IBRAKE_STAT_on_F025
PRE_CRASH_ON_OFF pre_crash_on_F025
FCW_ON_OFF FCW_on_F025
#I dont have buttons to turn on\off the system
TLC_START_VERSION, default_on
FCW_START_VERSION, default_on

CIC:
BRAKE_ASSISTANT_FCW aktiv
LANE_DEPARTURE_WARNING aktiv

KOMBI:
TLC_VERBAUT aktiv
IBRAKE_VERBAUT aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_TIMEOUT aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_CRC aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_ALIVE aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_APPL aktiv
ST_TLC_TIMEOUT aktiv
ST_TLC_ALIVE aktiv
ST_TLC_APPL aktiv

After I turn on the ignition for a 10 seconds I see lines in the KOMBI, but then they disappear and error message (about LDW and CW) appears.
Error message appears instantly after the engine is started.

And I dont have "collision warning" menu in CIC>Settings.

Any ideas?

So I end up with the following errors:

E06C3C Signal (brake assistant operating element status, 0x31E) invalid, transmitter FEM, ZGM
E06C1A Signal (lane departure warning system operating element status, 0x343) invalid, transmitter FEM, FRM
800A07 Vibration motor in steering wheel faulty

Seems like the system always checks if there a vibration motor and correct buttons for LDW and FCW... Also, some says that KAFAS2 is requiring FSC code to LDW and FCW activation, but I dont know how to check it.

Hi,

I coded succesfully Lane Departure Warning on my F11 03/2011 with the following values:

KAFAS:
3000, TLC_START_VERSION, default_on
3000, TLC_ON_OFF, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_327, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_345, aktiv
3006, ACTUATOR_ON_OFF, aktiv

KOMBI:
3003, TLC_VERBAUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_TIMEOUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_ALIVE, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_APPL, aktiv

HU_CIC:
3001, LANE_DEPARTURE_WARNING, aktiv

SZL_LWS:
3000, Lenkrad_Vibration, aktiv

FRM:
LIN_PUBU_TLC, aktiv

Also added the panel with the additional button.

BUT: I cannot see the LDW lines in HUD. Do I need to add anything to HU_CIC?

Thanks
Matthias

Originally Posted by berti

Hi,

I coded succesfully Lane Departure Warning on my F11 03/2011 with the following values:

KAFAS:
3000, TLC_START_VERSION, default_on
3000, TLC_ON_OFF, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_327, aktiv
3000, SEND_MESSAGE_345, aktiv
3006, ACTUATOR_ON_OFF, aktiv

KOMBI:
3003, TLC_VERBAUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_TIMEOUT, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_ALIVE, aktiv
3004, ST_TLC_APPL, aktiv

HU_CIC:
3001, LANE_DEPARTURE_WARNING, aktiv

SZL_LWS:
3000, Lenkrad_Vibration, aktiv

FRM:
LIN_PUBU_TLC, aktiv

Also added the panel with the additional button.

BUT: I cannot see the LDW lines in HUD. Do I need to add anything to HU_CIC?

Thanks
Matthias

Matthias,

Try:

KOMBI->3003 FZG_Ausstattung, 10->HUD_TLC_ENABLE->aktiv

JEG23

Originally Posted by JEG23

Matthias,

Try:

KOMBI->3003 FZG_Ausstattung, 10->HUD_TLC_ENABLE->aktiv

JEG23

Thanks for quick response!
Will try that immediately tomorrow morning.

/Matthias

Guys, I have just completed this retrofit on my 2013 520d & after already purchasing the vibration motor & switch panel found that BMW have 3 types of steering wheel control module, my car has heated steering but the control module has the pins missing where motor plugs in so the retrofit total is now up to around £300.
Motor £65
Switch Panel £80
Module £140

When I receive the module I am going to compare the units to check if there is anything more than just the pins missing as there isn't much to it really component wise, I'll attach some photos.

I added the option to my VO & VO coded the following which made the changes listed below:

HU_NBT
BRAKE_ASSISTANT_FCW
aktiv
LANE_DEPARTURE_WARNING
aktiv

ICM
C_KBV_DBC_Umparametrisierung_enable
aktiv
C_KBV_KAFAS2_verbaut
verbaut
C_KBV_Vorbefuellung_enable
aktiv
HcSwcCPar_i_HcKoHa_Fkt_Aktiv
aktiv
HcSwcCPar_i_HcKoHa_TLC_verbaut
verbaut
Verbau5AS_DriveAssist
verbaut

KAFAS
ACTUATOR_ON_OFF
vib_warn_on_F20_F30_F25, vib_warn_on_F01_F10, vib_warn_on_F015
FCW_ON_OFF
FCW_on_F30, FCW_on_F20, FCW_on_F01, FCW_on_F10, FCW_on_I001, FCW_on_F015, FCW_on_F025, FCW_on_F056
PRE_CRASH_ON_OFF
pre_crash_on_F030, pre_crash_on_F020, pre_crash_on_F01, pre_crash_on_F10, pre_crash_on_I001, pre_crash_on_F015, pre_crash_on_F025, pre_crash_on_F056
SEND_CC_FCW_VISIBILITY
FCW_on_F30, FCW_on_F20, FCW_on_F01, FCW_on_F10, FCW_on_I001, FCW_on_F015, FCW_on_F025, FCW_on_F056
SEND_DISP_LDM_2
DISP_LDM2_on_F30, DISP_LDM2_on_F20, DISP_LDM2_on_F01, DISP_LDM2_on_F10, DISP_LDM2_on_F025
SEND_MSG_327
message_on_F20_F30_F25, message_on_F01_F10, message_on_F015
SEND_MSG_345
message_on_F20_F30_F25, message_on_F01_F10, message_on_F015
SEND_STATUS_IBRAKE
IBRAKE_STAT_on_F30, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F20, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F01, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F10, IBRAKE_STAT_on_I001, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F015, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F025, IBRAKE_STAT_on_F056
TLC_ON_OFF
TLC_on_F20_F30_F25, TLC_on_F01_F10, TLC_on_F015


KOMBI
DISP_LDM_2_ALIVE
aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_APPL
aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_CRC
aktiv
DISP_LDM_2_TIMEOUT
aktiv
HUD_TLC_ENABLE
aktiv
IBRAKE_VERBAUT
aktiv
ST_TLC_ALIVE
aktiv
ST_TLC_APPL
aktiv
ST_TLC_TIMEOUT
aktiv
TLC_VERBAUT
aktiv

SZL
Lenkrad_Vibration
aktiv

Originally Posted by JEG23

Matthias,

Try:

KOMBI->3003 FZG_Ausstattung, 10->HUD_TLC_ENABLE->aktiv

JEG23

Hm, just checked and I cannot find this entry in my KOMBI.
Haven't had time to look for something else.

/Matthias

Originally Posted by berti

Hm, just checked and I cannot find this entry in my KOMBI.
Haven't had time to look for something else.

/Matthias

Got it finaly
Missing entry for KOMBI 3000: "HUD_TLC_ENABLE" set to active was the solution.

/Matthias

Does anyone know why with lane departure on an f10 it also enables a few FCW entries in the KAFAS as the FCW button in my new panel does not work as I'm sure it's reserved only if you also have ACC